LOTR 12" line not dead...
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Anzik
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Actually I've given this some thought. All they need to do is make that little section between the knee and ankle a little bit longer if they use the same style body. Then once the crew is assembled the scouring of the shire scene can be created with the inevitable Saruman and Grima.
Captain Faramir
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Gimli is just a wee bit taller anyway, maybe they could work with that little difference. We have three heights for normal bodies, maybe they can make two heights for the little ones.
Anzik Hayes said:
I like this idea too. Don't know if SSC would go to the trouble of making variants like this if it requires changing the basic bodies, but I guess it all depends on what they come up with. I'm just a little worried about Gimli for that reason. There was some talk here (another thread?) a while back of just putting a "fat suit" on a Hobbit body and calling it a Dwarf, but if they did that I'd have a total ****fit! I really don't know how they will actually deal with that issue, but I suggested instead that if they do make a special body for Gimli, and "The Hobbit/There and Back Again" the movie does eventually get made, then they'll already have the basic body ready to go for a whole army of Dwarves! The proportions are just too different between Dwarves and Hobbits to use only one body type for both!
Anyway, I'm praying that Gimli, when he finally does arrive, will not disappoint in any way, shape or form!!!
Btw, wasn't "Entwash" actually a river?
Anzik
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The dwarves are a little taller but also much thicker. I think the best way to look at the problem would be to examine SSC's motivation for producing them, specifically how much mileage can come from them. This means they need to be able to reuse them in other lines. Since Hobbits are basically miniature adults humans, they can be used in the SW line as children, Like TPM Anakin and AOTC Boba, and also as Jawas.
The dwarves on the other hand might be used as ugnaughts.
Anyone more familiar with other lines that have short characters?
The dwarves on the other hand might be used as ugnaughts.
Anyone more familiar with other lines that have short characters?
Anzik, you hit the nail on the head. SSC isn't going to develope a new product unless they can either reuse it in other areas or ,if it's going to be a "one of", charge enough for it to make it worthwhile.
Reuseing that smaller body for other SW figs should justify the costs of developement.
The only other shorter figure I could think of is maybe a John Connor from T2 since they have that license.
Reuseing that smaller body for other SW figs should justify the costs of developement.
The only other shorter figure I could think of is maybe a John Connor from T2 since they have that license.
Cocoboloboy said:
One small body you know they have to be considering is Yoda. That's another one that isn't without issues, unless they decide to go simple with his body under the clothing. But Gimli should be built like a tank, and as I mentioned, when The Hobbit gets made (eventually), depending on whether SSC gets the license or not, there will be loads of Dwarf characters to make. I guess only time will tell, but Gimli was too important a character to neglect. I'm afraid if they fail to come up with a satisfactory solution for him there will be an awful lot of disgruntled fans...myself included.
...that still only counts as one!
Mudshark said:
I figure SS is going to have to approach Yoda and Gollum in much the same way as Medicom did their Yoda, a sculpted body. Medi's Yoda has an awesome sculpt, the best so far really, but stinks when it comes to articulation. Sideshow could easily improve in that area, with Gollum it would be a necessity.
Yoda is also a lttle too big to be 1/6 scale(imho), which is ironic considering it's Medicom.
SSC could do a sculpted Gollum body to scale with good articulation and then use that for a base body on Yoda. Maybe?
Anzik
Super Freak
To be in proper scale Yoda needs to be about 4" tall and I think the hobbits should be about 6" and the dwarves 7"-8".
Anzik Hayes said:
Hmmmm...well that means Gollums body would be way too big to reuse for Yoda's.
What about reuseing Yoda's body for the Hobbit youngsters?
Captain Faramir
Super Freak
There really aren't any characters as tiny as Yoda; not even Wicket waas that small. His body can only be used for the PT and the OT Yodas. The hobbits however can be used for children and taller Jawas and Ewoks. Gimli just can't be the same size; he has to be taller, so they need to make at least two small body sizes. As for his girth, that will likely one be done with padding, as anything else would make him unusable for other characters. Having two height options will be much more sensible and pretty ideal.
I really hope that when they make a Gimli he isn't the same size as Hobbits.
You think they could just use the same Hobbit body and add a padded suit and elevator boots or do they really need a different sized body with longer legs and arms?
You think they could just use the same Hobbit body and add a padded suit and elevator boots or do they really need a different sized body with longer legs and arms?
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Entropy Chicken said:
Theres no way they could use the same body and just pad it out/extend it for Gimli - at least not if they want it to look good! Just for example, the shoulders for Gimli would have to be wider - if you just padded it out, then the "new" shoulders would be half way down the original arms and theres no way the articulations would work properly. I suspect we'll see the hobbits first as they have more scope - ie. Bilbo, Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin at least (and then there's possible armoured variants etc); assuming they sell well, then they'll invest some time and effort into making Gimli so everyone can "complete" the Fellowship and won't mind paying a bit extra (so this assumes we'll get GtG before Gimli too). I'm not interested in other lines so I don't know if a "Gimli" body could be re-used for someone else. As already mentioned, if/when (please!!) the Hobbit gets made then there would be scope for further dwarves, or we might even get a set to re-enact the Council of Elrond scene...
Anzik
Super Freak
Despite the fact that the Buck body looks crappy, its essentially just parts that can be assembled and mixed and matched. So they could assemble a big boy chest with a shorter abdomen. They won't really need to start from scratch.
All good points made, guys! It's not only a matter of size (height and girth), but proportions, too. That's what makes Dwarves and Hobbits so different from one another and is why I believe it just won't look right if they share essentially the same basic body type. In the films, at least, the Hobbits have the same proportions as Men, only at half the size, as has already been mentioned here previously. The Dwarves are more foreshortened and stockier by comparision. Some early conceptual sketches by WETA showed all of the various races of Middle-earth and their comparative proportions to one another. (I'm sure almost all of you have seen the sketches I'm referring to). I hope SSC is using the same guide for their figures and will do everything they can to stick to that basic outline. If they do, then I don't think we'll have anything to worry about when Gimli finally joins the line.
Captain Faramir
Super Freak
Well it looks like we're gonna get some clues next week about some upcoming figures. Of course, we got clues about Faramir last September, so it might be a while before we get any more details. I just hope it's an actual clue that lets us really get a feeling for who's coming and not just "he's a Tolkien character!" Give us something concrete, please Sideshow!
I hope SS is somewhat specific next week. The wait is killing me! I want to know what's next for the 12" line.
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