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The rest can be found here https://badassdigest.com/2013/07/03/film-crit-hulk-man-of-steel/

Here's an excerpt:



INTRO #3

HULK HAS SPENT THE LAST FEW WEEKS THINKING, READING AND LISTENING.

YOU SEE, HULK WENT AND SAW MAN OF STEEL'S OPENING MIDNIGHT SHOW WITH AN EXCITED AUDIENCE AND, WELL, HULK THOUGHT IT WAS NOT SO GOOD. SURE, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S GOOD STUFF IN THERE, BUT IF WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT ON THE PUREST STORY LEVEL (AKA THE MOST IMPORTANT PART), HULK THOUGHT IT FAILED SO SPECTACULARLY. AFTER THE CREDITS ROLLED HULK JUST SAT THERE WITH BETTY FOR A MOMENT AS WE STARED IN BEWILDERMENT AT EVERYONE ELSE. HALF THE AUDIENCE WAS TALKING EXCITEDLY. THE OTHER HALF WAS YELLING ANGRILY. THEN WE WENT OUTSIDE AND TALKED WITH SOME OF HULK'S INDUSTRY FRIENDS AND EVERYONE WAS IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT AS TO THE NOT-SO-GOODNESS OF THE FILM. IT ACTUALLY GOT PRETTY HEATED. BUT THEN HULK DID THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ONE CAN DO AT A MOMENT LIKE THAT AND THAT IS HULK TRIED TO SUBVERT THE INCLINATION TOWARD FEELING "THIS IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE CONCLUSION!" SO HULK WENT HOME AND STARTED READING OTHER CRITICS AND FRIENDS WHO PRAISED IT. THE REASON FOR DOING SO ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE HUMANE "NEVER HATE A MOVIE" MANTRA, NOR IS IT EXPRESSLY ABOUT THE ETHICS OF WANTING TO HARSH SOMEONE'S BUZZ. IT'S ABOUT THE PROCESS OF COMING TO GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MOVIES AFFECT PEOPLE.

SEE THE THING ABOUT BEING A STORY DIAGNOSTICIAN, UNLIKE A CRITIC, IS THE JOB DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU TO SAY WHAT YOU THINK AND REFLECT THE EXPERIENCE FOR YOURSELF (THEREBY ASSUMING YOUR VOICE IS JUST LENDING TO THE PLURALITY OF GREATER CONSENSUS). INSTEAD, THE JOB IS TO ACTIVELY TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYONE ELSE WILL THINK AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHY THEY THINK IT. WE DO NOT DO THIS BECAUSE THEIR OPINION IS INHERENTLY "RIGHT" (WE'LL GET TO THAT NEXT), BUT BECAUSE THEIR OPINIONS (EVEN POORLY FORMED ONES) WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW MOVIES WORK ON A MACRO LEVEL, FAR OUTSIDE YOUR OWN MYOPIA. YOUR JOB IS NOT TO ADHERE TO EVERYONE'S SPECIFIC WANTS, BUT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT STORY CHOICES ARE SECRETLY AFFECTING PEOPLE, MAYBE WITHOUT THEIR REALIZING IT. AND THAT REALLY MEANS YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO HOW PEOPLE TALK AND WHAT THEIR MOTIVATIONS WERE. YOU HAVE TO ASK THE POINTED QUESTIONS: DID THIS WORK FOR YOU? WHY DID IT WORK FOR YOU? HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FAULTS? HOW DID YOU FEEL THE FILM OVERCAME THOSE FAULTS? WHAT DO YOU WANT OUT OF THIS MOVIE? HOW COULD IT HAVE WORKED BETTER FOR YOU? HOW COULD IT HAVE WORKED FOR US BOTH? AND THEN YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO TAKE YOUR TIME WITH IT AND MEDITATE ON THOSE ANSWERS, FOR IMMEDIACY BREEDS SINGULARITY. YOU HAVE TO FORCE YOURSELF TO BE OPEN AND CONSTANTLY CURIOUS, FOR THIS PROCESS HAS TO BE TREATED AS AN ONGOING SCHOLARLY ONE. A STORY DIAGNOSTICIAN HAS TO BE THE ETERNAL STUDENT.

AND IN ALL THAT TIME HULK REALIZED WHAT MANY OTHERS REALIZED AFTER THEIR INITIAL SCREENING: THAT MAN OF STEEL MIGHT BE ONE OF THE MOST DIVISIVE BLOCKBUSTERS IN RECENT MEMORY. SOME OF THIS IS DUE TO STRICT ISSUES OF PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION AND HISTORY WITH THE EXTREMELY POPULAR CHARACTER OF SUPERMAN, BUT THE DIVISION WAS JUST AS EVENLY SPLIT EVEN AMONG THE NON-RABID, NORMAL CINEMA-GOERS AS WELL. SO WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED? WHY IS THE MOVIE CAUSING SUCH A SPLIT? WHY DO ALL THE OPINIONS SEEM TO BE SO VARIED? WELL, AFTER ALL THAT THINKING, READING AND LISTENING, HULK HAS REALIZED ONE UNIFYING THING:

MAN OF STEEL REVEALS A WHOLE BUNCH ABOUT HOW WE WATCH MOVIES.

AND SOME OF IT ISN'T GOOD.
 
That ALLCAPS has got to go.

Seriously, I get that it's shtick, but who can read all caps for that long without having their eyes fall out, much less take it seriously?
 
Some suit concepts

Man-of-Steel-Concept-Art-4.jpg

Square off some features and chalk it up... would make a nice basis for Bizarro. :yess:

Aww...no way. Come on. No one would want to talk to ****ing Brandon Routh?

I would, I'd tell him how much I loved him in Scott Pilgrim.
 
Hey also made a pretty good Superman. :lecture It's not his fault the script just had him lift heavy things and get his *** kicked by Luthor and his buddies.
 
Hey also made a pretty good Superman. :lecture It's not his fault the script just had him lift heavy things and get his *** kicked by Luthor and his buddies.

Maybe he didn't get the chance to show himself as Superman, but I feel like they just cast the perfect Clark Kent, him in the glasses with the mannerisms was perfect, but as Superman, I just wasn't seeing it. :dunno
 
I would, I'd tell him how much I loved him in Scott Pilgrim.
I'd honestly say the same ****ing thing,
That ALLCAPS has got to go.

Seriously, I get that it's shtick, but who can read all caps for that long without having their eyes fall out, much less take it seriously?

I get it's a bit of an issue, but read one post by him, not related to MOS, and you'll see how brilliant he is.

You want to know why my opinion on film changed? I read his stuff. His HULK stuff is a Schtick, but you can easily look over it once you read what he says.

But I've said everything he said in his MOS review, so you don't have to read it. :lol

Or atleast read half of it.
 
That ALLCAPS has got to go.

Seriously, I get that it's shtick, but who can read all caps for that long without having their eyes fall out, much less take it seriously?

Yep. Tried reading this a few times now and cannot do it... I've tried to skim through but the paragraphs make no sense either. When an article is this long, it's nearly impossible make sense of it without punctuation, paragraphs etc.

Seems like there might be something interesting in there but the format undermines everything.

I guess he's had some work printed in the New Yorker but I can't get into this.

I kind of enjoyed his article Because Kurasawa though... Because it was brief, and its broken into bullet points. It fit the hulk voice... And overall it took the theseus that we love moments in film because we love them not because they follow A, B, and C.

Ultimately, it's alchemy not science.
 
Same here



:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

That's what happens when the world finds out you're a peeping tom.

Was there anyone under 200lbs in attendance?
I bet Routh will be arrested for doing a drive by of Singer someday.
He really did get screwed by a bad script and director, a few more degrees in another direction and he would've been as memorable as Chris.
 
This is so funny! When Superman Returns came out everyone was saying how the movie and Routh was waaaaaay better than Reeve and the 78 version. Now it seems like everyone is trashing it. Superman the Movie had no CG, no gratuitous action and over the top special effects. It was a simple, fun Superman story that every superheroe movie since has been compared to. Like it or not, argue all you want, but it set the standard for comic movies. Because of that it will always be a classic. Ten, twenty, or even fifty years from now when Superman has been done and redone again they will always compare it to Christopher Reeve.
 
I'd honestly say the same ****ing thing,


I get it's a bit of an issue, but read one post by him, not related to MOS, and you'll see how brilliant he is.

You want to know why my opinion on film changed? I read his stuff. His HULK stuff is a Schtick, but you can easily look over it once you read what he says.

But I've said everything he said in his MOS review, so you don't have to read it. :lol

Or atleast read half of it.

I like reading his stuff but enough with the schtick.

Yep. Tried reading this a few times now and cannot do it... I've tried to skim through but the paragraphs make no sense either. When an article is this long, it's nearly impossible make sense of it without punctuation, paragraphs etc.

Seems like there might be something interesting in there but the format undermines everything.

I guess he's had some work printed in the New Yorker but I can't get into this.

I kind of enjoyed his article Because Kurasawa though... Because it was brief, and its broken into bullet points. It fit the hulk voice... And overall it took the theseus that we love moments in film because we love them not because they follow A, B, and C.

Ultimately, it's alchemy not science.

:exactly:

Was there anyone under 200lbs in attendance?
I bet Routh will be arrested for doing a drive by of Singer someday.
He really did get screwed by a bad script and director, a few more degrees in another direction and he would've been as memorable as Chris.

It's possible the convention floor wasn't open to the public hence why no one on line to speak with him.

I hope. :rotfl
 
I'd honestly say the same ****ing thing,


I get it's a bit of an issue, but read one post by him, not related to MOS, and you'll see how brilliant he is.

You want to know why my opinion on film changed? I read his stuff. His HULK stuff is a Schtick, but you can easily look over it once you read what he says.

Are you referring to Devin? Because I've known him for almost 15 years and I'm partly responsible for him getting into the movie blogging world in the first place. So if your opinion on film has really changed because of him that would be very, very weird. :lol
 
Ultimately, it's alchemy not science.

:lecture

Absolutely. In what little I read of this "Hulk" piece I gleaned that it was one of those tired arguments where someone is casting aspersions on why those with differing views on a movie feel the way they do and attempting to frame it all as an objective, factual analysis, when in fact it's just more subjective opinion. Pish-posh.
 
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