Marvel Studios/Sony - SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING

[teemu]

Overall, this was a mediocre movie, absolutely forgettable, I can't see myself ever watching this again. Extremely inferior to the first two Raimi films, and I would say it's about on par with the first Amazing Spider-Man.

Agreed! completely over-rated film and felt like watching Iron-Spider Man since Stark gives him his suit with all the dumb tech.

 

[PopCultKid]

They did cover that with a joke but Toomes really wasn't bothered by it in the least so that moment started showing the dark side of his character. The idea of "and this goes for the rest of you" was implied even though it wasn't said. It was that and the "Daddy talk" that showed his evil nature. To me, it was more than just the need to provide for his family. He uses that as justification for his actions, but he truly had a bad streak in him. He provided WAY more than what was necessary. They were living pretty damn well, so I feel his motivation was fueled by greed and power, and he was willing to kill to keep it going.

So yea, it's all that stuff that made him a good character, but I still can't see how villains like Ultron get bashed to death but Vulture is suddenly the best MCU baddie. I do like him but can't rank him that high.

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After the plane part of the finale, I would've liked to have seen a more traditional fight on the beach, and they could have continued with him trying to take off and Peter saving him. That would have added a lot to the final fight and to Vulture

The movie isn't pure perfection, and I get where Pturtle is coming from, but I'm not anywhere nearly as disappointed. This is the third attempt at the character so I never thought we were going to see something so ground breaking and game changing. It was different in a lot of ways and was a great origin story or "year one" story without telling the details of the origin again. Does it have room for improvement? Sure. But I think that it's going to get a pass on several shortcomings because it still does a lot of things well, Holland's Spidey is wining the majority over, and people are just happy to see Spidey home. Back home, and has a sizable future slated. This flick is going to get passes by the masses, but I hope the powers that be realize that pt. 2 needs to be something special.

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I do agree with PTurtle that the 1st Shocker had more flare and the 2nd was bland. I would’ve liked to see some more personality in the Tinkerer too. More eccentric or something.

 

[jye4ever]

What always bugged me with the opening of ASM2 is that while Spiderman is wasting time joking with the Rhino guy the truck is causing bad accidents, he doesn't do anything to stop the truck for quite awhile.

At least in this new movie Spiderman acts quick but his mistakes comes from being too gung ho to be a hero which made for a great narrative pturtle be damned lol.

 

[LexiKon318]

I look forward to seeing it a second time! Boo birds be damned ha


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[ironwez20]

Bring back Toby......he looked like a 40 yr old Parker during his Rami stint now he really is 40....it'll be a seem less transition

He'd be just like Holland . Swinging around and running into ****

 

[ironwez20]

Plus we are never gonna get that definitive spidey on screen. Tobey wasn't spot on, Andrew wasn't , Holland. I'm just happy to see Spider-Man back on top again and be in an enjoyable movie. Yea it's not a perfect iteration but neither was spiderman 2 and that was the best spidey film of all time. I can live with the suit as long as the character is wholesome and is intact then I'm good.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Plus we are never gonna get that definitive spidey on screen. Tobey wasn't spot on, Andrew wasn't , Holland. I'm just happy to see Spider-Man back on top again and be in an enjoyable movie. Yea it's not a perfect iteration but neither was spiderman 2 and that was the best spidey film of all time. I can live with the suit as long as the character is wholesome and is intact then I'm good.

Thank God at least one person in here knows how to spell it.

 

[PopCultKid]

I look forward to seeing it a second time! Boo birds be damned ha


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I'm with ya! I'm 2 in and ready for more. Going again Friday with a buddy and my girl is begging to go back too. This is an easy 4-timer lol

 

[ZE_501]

There are continuity and logic issues with the film, but like many films, I can let them pass because I see them as light entertainment. Which is not to say Marvel Studios couldn't try harder; but overall they deliver a lot of fun.

Vulture and company were a little flippant about the murder of Shocker #1, but we don't know how deep these guys were, 8 years later. Even in the opening scene, we see that Vulture has a history of violence by the reaction of his crew before he swings, and he didn't look too fussed about having guns pointed at him.

The lack of armed response to the jet being compromised -- in fact the lack of armed escort -- did take me out of it a bit.

I didn't love the end fight, but as I've mentioned, I seldom do.

Flash's race is irrelevant to me, but I think he could have been more physically intimidating. Now that being said...he clearly came from money, which would explain a lot of his arrogance and status.

In Civil War (and some of the Homecoming scraps) Spidey was more capable, so I think they overdid it when they played his inexperience for laughs, but hey -- I laughed.

Just for the sake of being iconic, I can agree that I'd like the real (future?) MJ to be a sexy readhead, but beyond that I'm not too fussed about May's age or any of the supporting cast's race. I loved the big twist involving the 'dear old dad' reveal and don't have issue with how it was enabled.

In Civil War Peter wasn't familiar enough with ESB to know what AT-ATs were called, but geeked out over Lego Death Star in Homecoming. That was fast.

 

[Darkseed]

Plus we are never gonna get that definitive spidey on screen. Tobey wasn't spot on, Andrew wasn't , Holland. I'm just happy to see Spider-Man back on top again and be in an enjoyable movie. Yea it's not a perfect iteration but neither was spiderman 2 and that was the best spidey film of all time. I can live with the suit as long as the character is wholesome and is intact then I'm good.

Pretty much.....big budget films today are as much merchandising probably more so than story so long the one doesn't detract too much from the other.....it is what it is....

 

[a-dev]

I loved his chemistry with Aunt May though, and while she didn't have a lot of screen time I think Marisa is probably the best aunt May to date.

Yeah I wouldn't mind dating her either.

In Civil War Peter wasn't familiar enough with ESB to know what AT-ATs were called, but geeked out over Lego Death Star in Homecoming. That was fast.

Good point. And how does he have a vintage Kenner X-wing in his room? Did that belong to Uncle Ben or something?

 

[MegaPrime33]

It did bother me that an un-piloted cargo plan carrying such important items had virtually no security with it whatsoever. You'd like they would have Vision or somebody look after it to make sure nobody tried to hijack it or something. But I guess that's what Spidey was for???

Good point. And how does he have a vintage Kenner X-wing in his room? Did that belong to Uncle Ben or something?

eBay

 

[pturtle]

I read pturtles negative review then I think of my own problems with the movie some of which matches pturtles as well as the complaints from others.....

Yet......

I find it amazing that the movie was able to push thru all that and still be an entertaining fun experience.

Both viewings the entire audience laughed, clapped and cheered.

Kids and parents all enjoying themselves.

I'm shocked you enjoyed this one, especially with the action lacking. 6 Spider-Man films and this one is by far the worst in the action department.

Also his homemade suit didn't look as cool as I thought it would in action.

 

[pturtle]

Plus we are never gonna get that definitive spidey on screen. Tobey wasn't spot on, Andrew wasn't , Holland. I'm just happy to see Spider-Man back on top again and be in an enjoyable movie. Yea it's not a perfect iteration but neither was spiderman 2 and that was the best spidey film of all time. I can live with the suit as long as the character is wholesome and is intact then I'm good.

I personally don't care about which Spidey is most like the comics. I just prefer Toby's version. I can't help but cheer for him. Holland has a bit of that. Garfield was just too cool for school and while he's a good actor his Spidey never resonated with me.

Holland is certainly most like the comic Spider-Man, but like I said before, he just came off as a caricature of a teenager. His performance as Peter Parker didn't come off real to me as all.

The drama in these MCU movies are just lacking. I get that they're disposable entertainment but Raimi's first two Spidey flicks balanced the humor and drama very well. Those movies went dark when they needed to, this new Spider-Man I have a problem with because it's certainly aimed at kids, but I can't see many kids enjoying this since there isn't much action, and the action in there sucks.

 

[Wor-Gar]

This didn't Wonder Woman's opening numbers...? Spider-Man? All fanboys inner child? Nah.

 

[jye4ever]

I love how Doc Ock in Spiderman 2 can take multiple direct punches to his face from Spiderman and not get hurt his sunglasses don't even move then he survives a 1,000 foot drop onto a train lol.

But muh Spiderman 2 is so perfect.

 

[jye4ever]

This didn't Wonder Woman's opening numbers...? Spider-Man? All fanboys inner child? Nah.

hunh?

 

[Wor-Gar]

I meant to say this didn't break Woman Woman's opening... but it did, barely. They're still saying WW is the Top Dog of the summer.

They say that's a first (female lead leading summer boxoffice) since before JAWS started blockbuster summers. That's a long time.

 

[pturtle]

I love how Doc Ock in Spiderman 2 can take multiple direct punches to his face from Spiderman and not get hurt his sunglasses don't even move then he survives a 1,000 foot drop onto a train lol.

But muh Spiderman 2 is so perfect.

Spider-Man 2 is overrated though. Spider-Man 1 is overall a better film. Spider-Man 2 is more ambitious which makes it more flawed, but it's still a solid film with a lot of problems. Spider-Man 2 has a terrible final battle as well. Spider-Man 1 had a great brutal final battle.

Spider-Man 1 is great though and still the best Spider-Man movie to date. I even like Green Goblin way more than Doc Ock. Visually Doc Ock was awesome though.

 

[a-dev]

I love how Doc Ock in Spiderman 2 can take multiple direct punches to his face from Spiderman and not get hurt his sunglasses don't even move then he survives a 1,000 foot drop onto a train lol.

But muh Spiderman 2 is so perfect.

Oh no you didn't Jye.