Marvel's The Black Panther

[chewblacca]

That's because we spend most of our film following the ruling class. Of course they are happy. They are all genius billionaires that seem to treat thier responsibility of running the country like a fun hobby instead of a job.
The country's lower class that are all living in huts without electricity or indoor plumbing might have more to complain about. Literally only the upper class seems to be industrialized.

And regardless of how powerful those spears are, any society that has fistfights in place of elections is literally 8,000 years behind the times.

How do you know there are people living in huts without electricity? The whole city seems like a modern day coruscant. Your making a statement you can't possibly back up. Then again I am too because neither of us know anything about the lower class, if any, of a fictitious city. But judging by what we see in the movie I think I may be more right than you are. A truly civilized society takes care of their lower class as well as their upper class. Wakanda seems more civilized than most.

 

[ShadowX81]

There was a way to adapt CW into a great and meaningful film. It's just not at all what they were going for. They wanted cheap spectacle, Big Bang Theory-quality dialogue and a plot that claimed to be serious drama but was really teenage-level melodrama. They were never interested in making a game changer.

BP on the other hand never prioritized the popcorn antics CW did and instead kept the focus on the struggle of its protagonists, on the identity crisis they were both facing together. It beautifully sacrificed spectacle in favor of character, something very rare for an MCU CBM.

I wish we'd gotten a CW that was as honest and unwavering as BP was. It's a damn shame because Evans is superb as Cap and deserved a second great Cap movie.

You're trolling right? You're saying that a film whose climax was a cut between asilly CGI fistfight on a monorail track and a Zulu army riding rhinos into battle never went for popcorn antics?

Meanwhile the government wanting to hold a set of vigilantes accountable for possibly avoidable collateral damage "teenage level melodrama" that can only be taken seriously by 12 year olds?

How do you know there are people living in huts without electricity? The whole city seems like a modern day coruscant. Your making a statement you can't possibly back up. Then again I am too because neither of us know anything about the lower class, if any, of a fictitious city. But judging by what we see in the movie I think I may be more right than you are. A truly civilized society takes care of their lower class as well as their upper class. Wakanda seems more civilized than most.

Several scenes in the movie take place in lower class farming areas...... They seem to be living in tents out there.

The capitol city seems great (unless you are one of the many people that we see working as a street merchant), everyone outside of it seems to be living like its 1850.

Not to mention the fact that the film itself is a perfect example of how a system of government that sees being able to win a fistfight as a valid meathod to settle conflicts in executive legitimacy could crumble extremely fast. The films climax is basically a Civil War in the country that broke out after 2 freaking days.

 

[chewblacca]

You're trolling right? You're saying that a film whose climax was a cut between asilly CGI fistfight on a monorail track and a Zulu army riding rhinos into battle never went for popcorn antics?

Meanwhile the government wanting to hold a set of vigilantes accountable for possibly avoidable collateral damage "teenage level melodrama" that can only be taken seriously by 12 year olds?



Several scenes in the movie take place in lower class farming areas...... They seem to be living in tents out there.

The capitol city seems great (unless you are one of the many people that we see working as a street merchant), everyone outside of it seems to be living like its 1850.

Not to mention the fact that the film itself is a perfect example of how a system of government that sees being able to win a fistfight as a valid meathod to settle conflicts in executive legitimacy could crumble extremely fast. The films climax is basically a Civil War in the country.

That's the image they want the world to see. That was the point of it all. Like the ape guys up in the hills. They had a nice bit of electricity pumping in their city too.

 

[ShadowX81]

That's the image they want the world to see. That was the point of it all. Like the ape guys up in the hills. They had a nice bit of electricity pumping in their city too.

So it is some citizens' job to purposely live in a crappy hut just to throw off the outside world? Those public servants sure drew the short straw. Seems to have a lot of kids living there too. They all part of the act too?

Still doesn't address the street merchants or the silly way of choosing a king. Or the crisis that the country is left in at the end of the film after experiencing a civil war.

And what advanced city up in the hills? All we see is a cave with one room in it that has a throne and a bunch of half naked people in freezing conditions wearing animal skins, that apparently have to send two people hundreds of miles down range with a sled to fish for food for the whole city.

See how merging "ultra advanced space aged city with millions of people" with "small tribal civilization" makes zero sense when you actually start to think about it?

 

[chewblacca]

So it is some citizens' job to purposely live in a crappy hut just to throw off the outside world? Those public servants sure drew the short straw. Seems to have a lot of kids living there too. They all part of the act too?

Still doesn't address the street merchants or the silly way of choosing a king. Or the crisis that the country is left in at the end of the film after experiencing a civil war.

And what advanced city up in the hills? All we see is a cave with one room in it that has a throne and a bunch of half naked people in freezing conditions wearing animal skins, that apparently have to send two people hundreds of miles down range with a sled to fish for food for the whole city.

See how merging "ultra advanced space aged city with millions of people" with "small tribal civilization" makes zero sense when you actually start to think about it?

Just because they are technoloy advanced they can't have street merchants? Now that's silly thinking. They had street merchants in Star Trek! I don't know what version of the movie you saw but in the one I watched the men in the caves had electricity and a city-like presence . You keep bringing up people in huts like that was not a facade to fool outsiders.

 

[ShadowX81]

So children were part of the act? You keep ignoring the fact that having a population to keep up this full time "facade" means that people were actually living this way. You never seemed to answer that. Or acknowledge any other of the numerous points I've made about how awful this country is.

And what freaking gorilla city? We never see anything up there but a cave/throne room with 6 people in it that apparently have no food source that doesn't involve dragging a sled for hundreds of miles, who only wear traditional garb (in leiu of pants and jackets made of modern fabrics that might actually keep them warm) that makes zero practical sense.

This is a ridiculous crappy country that wasn't thought out by writers at all and has no internal logic.

 

[SNIKT1950]

The government wanting to hold a set of vigilantes accountable for possibly avoidable collateral damage "teenage level melodrama" that can only be taken seriously by 12 year olds?

Sounds to me like you actually bought into the hilarious "drama" of CW.

Having said that, you should stay from shows like Homeland. I fear you might need therapy after one episode.

 

[ShadowX81]

Sounds to me like you actually bought into the hilarious "drama" of CW.

Having said that, you should stay from shows like Homeland. I fear you might need therapy after one episode.

And you should probably stay away from shows like The News where adults talk about this very subject constantly.

 

[chewblacca]

So children were part of the act? You never seemed to answer that. Or acknowledge any other of the numerous points I've made about how awful this country is.

And what freaking gorilla city? We never see anything up there but a cave/throne room with 6 people in it that apparently have no food source that doesn't involve dragging a sled for hundreds of miles, whose traditional garb makes no practical sense.

This is a ridiculous crappy country that wasn't thought out by writers at all and has no internal logic.

Watch the movie again, man it's all there. The facade of the poor country and the city in the mountains. It's there just pay attention.

 

[ShadowX81]

Watch the movie again, man it's all there. The facade of the poor country and the city in the mountains. It's there just pay attention.

It's not. And you can't answer nor defend a single bit of it.

So i'l ask again. Were the kids in these "facade" villages part of the act?

If there were modern medical facilities, why is Bucky recovering in a hut?

How did wakanda even become wealthy if they aren't selling vibrantium to anyone? Where is any of this money even coming from?

 

[fosing]

man-ape's kingdom in the snowy mountains....

thats waaaaay further south, in south africa.

they had to bring in the snow. lolz

 

[crows]

It's not. And you can't answer nor defend a single bit of it.

So i'l ask again. Were the kids in these "facade" villages part of the act?

If there were modern medical facilities, why is Bucky recovering in a hut?

How did wakanda even become wealthy if they aren't selling vibrantium to anyone? Where is any of this money even coming from?

they sell to each other
Their Gov creates money, pays their workers, workers buy from Gov stores

 

[fosing]

 

[JAWS]

Speaking of Wakanda's Tech... All the tech from Vibranium is just stupid... Is there anything that this meteor rock can't do??

 

[Wor-Gar]

All the tech from Vibranium is just stupid... Is there anything that this meteor rock can't do??

I agree. Silly comic book metal.

 

[JAWS]

I agree. Silly comic book metal.

Could it do all of that in the comics?

Does Wakanda in the Comics revolve it's Tech around it?

I only know it from Cap's shield.​

 

[JAWS]

I will say this for BP.

It knew how to write god female characters.. Unlike that other Disney property. ​

 

[Wor-Gar]

Could it do all of that in the comics?

Does Wakanda in the Comics revolve it's Tech around it?

I only know it from Cap's shield.​

I don't know. Whenever something has "magical" properties, its either vibrainium or a magic stone.

 

[fosing]

Illinois.

 

[ShadowX81]

I don't know. Whenever something has "magical" properties, its either vibrainium or a magic stone.

Reminds me of Kryptonite from "Smallville". That little Kansas town found 1001 uses for the five hundred metric *** loads of radioactive space junk that got dumped on their town.