Marvel's The Black Panther

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Which movie is better?

Black Panther or Get Out?

Which one has better commentary? better representation? which movie ?

Night of the Living Dead > BP and Get Out

 

[Khev]

Apone and Frost > BP and Get Out.

Oh you meant the movies not the Wakanda characters, lol.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Which movie is better?

Black Panther or Get Out?

Which one has better commentary? better representation? which movie ?

Both great movies, but BP has a better message.

 

[crows]

Apone and Frost > BP and Get Out.

Oh you meant the movies not the Wakanda characters, lol.

yeah what movie is more meaningful ?

 

[JAWS]

It really is under appreciated I think it’s the best hulk out on film to date. Now he’s just some big green ape like monster. In TIH he was a savage ruthless monster. The final battle at the end is underrated.

Thing is with TIH is that they got the Hulk the most right in that film.. There are so many classic shots/moments that are pulled right form the comics. The CGI is dated but this Hulk acts more like the true Hulk.

TIH definitely makes my Top 20.

TIH makes my Top 20 MCU films as well.

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to both of you

TIH is indeed very good.

I don’t dislike Ruffalo Hulk’s but TIH had some pretty epic moments.

Ruffalo's Hulk in the original Avengers is great as that film really showed off his power and strength.. AOU and Thor 3 basically neutered him.

TIH does not look as good CGI wise as Ruffalo's Hulk that is for sure and he is a bit too thin. But the way he is portrayed is almost perfect.. The film did lack some really powerful feats of strength though.. If he had a few Avengers type feats of strength it would have been perfect for me.

However TIH does have the Thunder Clap and the "Hulk Smash" moves.. Something the Ruffalo Hulk needs to do.

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[JAWS]

First Class and DOFP are CBM staples. The drama those films achieved using Marvel lore is simply superb. They did exactly what CW couldn't via real weight and teeth and narratives that weren't melodramatic and simply forced.

First Class has some great moments.. But talk about unintentional laugh out loud moments. Too many mutants with stupid powers.. I laugh every time Banshee squeals or the dumb fairy chick spits a fire rock.. Also all the X-Men films seem to suffer from "How will wolverine get his *** beat this time" and "What heavy thing will Magneto lift up at the end of the film?"

But I will say that FC and DOFP are up there in quality without question but they just don't do it for me as much as they seem to do it for you.

I laughed when Tony and The Avengers argued about the bull**** accords. I cried when Stewart/Xavier communed with McAvoy/Xavier. I cringed as Cap's voice read out loud the letter he wrote to Tony. I got chills when Erik told Shaw everything he was saying was absolutely true "...but you killed my Mother.".

I knew you would laugh at the "But you killed my mother" line.. I thought it when I watched it.. Its more the delivery then the line itself I think

Cap's voice does not bother me.. Just should have been saved for the next film and let this one end with some questions. Don't know why you think the Accords are so funny.. Seems like something the Govt would try and pull.

Oh well.. We can't all like the same things

 

[ironwez20]

Thing is with TIH is that they got the Hulk the most right in that film.. There are so many classic shots/moments that are pulled right form the comics. The CGI is dated but this Hulk acts more like the true Hulk.

to both of you




Ruffalo's Hulk in the original Avengers is great as that film really showed off his power and strength.. AOU and Thor 3 basically neutered him.

TIH does not look as good CGI wise as Ruffalo's Hulk that is for sure and he is a bit too thin. But the way he is portrayed is almost perfect.. The film did lack some really powerful feats of strength though.. If he had a few Avengers type feats of strength it would have been perfect for me.

However TIH does have the Thunder Clap and the "Hulk Smash" moves.. Something the Ruffalo Hulk needs to do.

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Agreed. In TIH he is a savage beast who is ruthless. Now he’s just a big dumb ape like brute. He seems to always have intelligence while this other hulk just now got it. Plus the glowing green eyes look amazing.​

 

[jye4ever]

Oh yeah his eyes glorious.

I also prefer TIH feet over new Hulk’s feet.

 

[YoNoSe]

I like IH too. Shame his ML figure looks like he’s having a stroke.

 

[jye4ever]

I wasn’t aware he got the ML treatment.

He looks like beatlejuice with that small head and lol @ expression.

 

[YoNoSe]

I think he was a Target exclusive.

He looks a little like Gary Busey smelling a fart.

 

[jye4ever]

Holy crap that does look like Busey after a cocaine fart lolol

 

[YoNoSe]

Holy crap that does look like Busey after a cocaine fart lolol

But I feel like the voice would be Anne Ramsey in Throw Momma From The Train.

 

[Caped Baldy]

I like IH too. Shame his ML figure looks like he’s having a stroke.

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Jye's face when they tell him his 3D TLJ Blu-ray has been delayed and replaced with Justice League.

 

[Chakor]

Jye's face when they tell him his 3D TLJ Blu-ray has been delayed and replaced with Black Panther.

FTFY.

 

[YoNoSe]

Jye was once a Jedi. He could never Busey-stink-face anyone. It’s not in his character.

 

[Khev]

Jye was once a Jedi. He could never Busey-stink-face anyone. It’s not in his character.

SUCH a stupid line by Windu. "Dooku turned his back on everything the Jedi Order stood for, therefore doing anything contrary to their ideals is not in his character." Dafuq???

 

[YoNoSe]

SUCH a stupid line by Windu. "Dooku turned his back on everything the Jedi Order stood for, therefore doing anything contrary to their ideals is not in his character." Dafuq???

Even as a prequel tolerist, those first 20 minutes of AOTC are awkward AF.

 

[Khev]

Even as a prequel tolerist, those first 20 minutes of AOTC are awkward AF.

It was as if every single line from every character was written so as to produce maximum awkwardness upon delivery.

Hell I'm surprised that Yoda didn't say "Seeing you alive brings warm feelings to my...heh heh heh...heart."

 

[thecapn]

TL;DR - Tried to do too much in too little time.

I apologize if this has been said, but I just got to see BP this past weekend, and I couldn't help but feel that it was time-crunched. As in, they tried to do too much with too little time. It's as if Batman Begins tried to pull in Heath Ledger's Joker and make it one film.

BP isn't Spiderman; You can't ignore his 'origin' story, because not enough people know it. So you have to spend a bunch of the running time setting up his backstory: Wakanda politics, the various tribes and how they interact, his personal guard, his family, his ex. I didn't sit there with a stopwatch, but I'd bet half the film is essentially world-building. And I can't see how to avoid it, it NEEDED to happen. And it was well-explained, I understood where I was and how this new 'world' worked by the end pretty well.

But then you have a villian who's very interesting and COULD have been very complex and sympathetic, who is worthy of much more screentime and care than he got, shoved into half a film. It's not fair to him.

I think a better choice would've been if you kept Gollum in it longer, and had him lead you to the Vibranium buyer/weapons manufacturer that Ross was looking for (loose end, there?), and have some hackneyed typical superhero plot where the vibranium is going to be used to blah-blah-blah. Maybe throw in Cap to help BP take him down, and BP has to save the day and him too.

It wouldn't have been a *GREAT* film, but the fact that you have a majority-black cast and hero would still have done gangbusters at the domestic box office.

THEN, you have Killmonger headline a sequel, where he comes to challenge T'Challah. You see his backstory in more detail, feel the violence he's seen. See T'Challah struggle more with his decisions. Have a disgraced T'Challah try to take down his own kingdom. Basically, the second half, stretched to a whole runtime, and THAT WOULD'VE been a great film.

Also - I didn't feel like I would've missed anything if I skipped this one, honestly. I suppose I wouldn't know some of the Wakandan characters in IW as well, but most of them were pretty generic. The muscle (the bald lady from TWD), the girlfriend, the sidekick/Q little sister. Would've been easy to figure out. Which isn't a good thing, necessarily, if you're trying to appeal to some people who might be turned off by the "plight of the minority" plotline but who'd go just as a primer for IW. (I'm not one of them, BTW, just saying).