Masters of the Universe Classics

[Eamon]

Honestly Eamon,
Here's the issue with your rationale, if the sword needs to sit lower, then the scabbard needs to be a bit longer and sit lower like in the pic you posted, that causes also issues with limiting the figure from riding Battle-Cat or sitting on the Wind Raider. Now if it were the opposite and it sits higher, then it would stick out way to much above the shoulder and it's not "screen accurate" and might not work if He-Man wants to "grab" the sword as the muscular arm wouldn't bend enough to do so.

Now, the bigger issue is that sometimes 2D doesn't translate that good into 3D, and a prime example is some of the PCS statues, what looks good on paper or cels, doesn't really work on a 3D figure. Some compromise has to be made to make this work.

It's not the perfect solution for everyone, but I see more people happy with the figure than unhappy.

There's always room for improvement and that's why they are customizers and custom accessories. Heck, even high end statues and figures like SS and Hot Toys get customized all the time.

But some people forget that there's dozens of variables when it comes to producing a figure, including raw materials, budget, timeline, design, molds, factory capabilities, and a long etc.

Now as you said these are "facts", but you also have to understand that some people don't mind these and are seeing the big picture. And assuming your standards are the ones by which everything should be measured is both naive and a bit arrogant.

Finally, the fact that you are so bothered by this issue that you would even go after the reviewers is a bit of an overreaction IMO. But to each it's own, you are entitled to your opinion like everyone else, but understand that a review, no matter how detailed, will never and cannot be objective since it's all a matter of opinion. You see it all the time with movie, book, theater and product reviews.


Anyway, cannot wait for Skeletor to be paired with He-Man!

Dude the sword doesn't look or act like it should. If it doesn't bother you, good for you, give yourself a cookie and think your self above such pettiness with a smug grin. I am not sure why it bothers you that it bothers me and others that some of us expect a little better quality and what a screen accurate sword.

You are over stating what I am saying and I am not condemning anyone reviewers to death by pointing something they missed out.

It's not arrogant to want higher quality and you conflating my ego with wanting screen accurate sword is bit ridiculous and unfair.

 

[Kuzeh]

You not liking it is not what's bothering me, but it does bother you that some of us like it. So, I wanted to point out, first, the issues with modifying the sheath and how it would hinder other features.
Second, how 2D doesn't always translate to 3D
Third, the toy production variables
And lastly, that reviewers are subjective...

Seems like lately, negativity is the hip thing to do and instead of enjoying the hobby we constantly see pages and pages of complaining from the same 3 people and it's lame, and it's tiring. All disguised in the name of "higher standards"...

Anyway, that was it, don't mind me, I'm just here to enjoy MOTU...

 

[Kuwahara]

You not liking it is not what's bothering me, but it does bother you that some of us like it. So, I wanted to point out, first, the issues with modifying the sheath and how it would hinder other features.
Second, how 2D doesn't always translate to 3D
Third, the toy production variables
And lastly, that reviewers are subjective...

Seems like lately, negativity is the hip thing to do and instead of enjoying the hobby we constantly see pages and pages of complaining from the same 3 people and it's lame, and it's tiring. All disguised in the name of "higher standards"...

Anyway, that was it, don't mind me, I'm just here to enjoy MOTU...

Why is it that it's pretty much MAINLY you that comes on here to complain about how negative some of us are, while at the same time bait members (mainly me) with inappropriate remarks? You complain about how negative we are about the product, but spew your own negative venom upon the people in this community who don't share your enthusiasm. If it's not our remarks about the product, it's remarks about certain reviewers that you so gallantly come to their rescue, on your white steed and shiny white armor. I suppose as it is your sworn duty to CONTINUOUSLY white knight the product and certain fans AND attack forum members with uncalled for remarks, it is my duty to CONTINUOUSLY point out the negative aspects of the MOTUC line. I guess I'll just have to think of it as good versus evil within the confines of this message board. since I don't maliciously attack other forum members, I hereby declare myself one of the good guys.

 

[teemu]

Why is it that it's pretty much MAINLY you that comes on here to complain about how negative some of us are, while at the same time bait members (mainly me) with inappropriate remarks? You complain about how negative we are about the product, but spew your own negative venom upon the people in this community who don't share your enthusiasm. If it's not our remarks about the product, it's remarks about certain reviewers that you so gallantly come to their rescue, on your white steed and shiny white armor. I suppose as it is your sworn duty to CONTINUOUSLY white knight the product and certain fans AND attack forum members with uncalled for remarks, it is my duty to CONTINUOUSLY point out the negative aspects of the MOTUC line. I guess I'll just have to think of it as good versus evil within the confines of this message board. since I don't maliciously attack other forum members, I hereby declare myself one of the good guys.

right on!

since he has you cowardly blocked- quoted!

 

[Eamon]

You not liking it is not what's bothering me, but it does bother you that some of us like it. So, I wanted to point out, first, the issues with modifying the sheath and how it would hinder other features.
Second, how 2D doesn't always translate to 3D
Third, the toy production variables
And lastly, that reviewers are subjective...

Seems like lately, negativity is the hip thing to do and instead of enjoying the hobby we constantly see pages and pages of complaining from the same 3 people and it's lame, and it's tiring. All disguised in the name of "higher standards"...

Anyway, that was it, don't mind me, I'm just here to enjoy MOTU...

Where did i exhibit being bothered by those liking it exactly? I have read over my posts and I see no evidence of me taking offense by those like it. Stop projecting.

The last post from me to you was me saying I was glad the face one yours wasn't glossy. Some time later you suddenly decided to have a go at me being annoyed over the sword. I wasn't challenging your opinion on being happy with the glossy face you'll notice and was happy for you but you still saw fit challenge and question me in your usual pantronising passive dickish tone (which you clearly are oblivious to) and then give a cheers emoticon like your words are gospel and all is good.

That's twice now you have also arrogantly presumed to educate me in what does and does not translate well from 2d to 3d as if I have no clue or don't even work in the industry.

And stop with being a passive dick and then clanging our beers like you weren't at all insulting. You come off as a crazy person.

 

[Eamon]

Lucky for some of us, Mike McEvil is making a sword and sheath that ....wait for it....gasp...is screen accurate and functional.
This of course flies in the face of 2d to 3d physics as Kuzeh sees it and clearly it was just waaaay ridiculous of me to expect Mattel to do it. I expect too much and should stop being so negative. It spoils Kuzeh's fun and we can't be having have that.

 

[Kuwahara]

Evil Mike makes some great stuff. I'm thinking about getting his 1987 movie style power sword.

So based on that graphic, It would seem the peg has also been moved up to prevent the sword and sheath from towering past He-Man's shoulders.

 

[Kuzeh]

And if you read what I posted earlier,
this shows exactly what I was saying, that the scabbard needs to be bigger, now, that's Mike's sword, which is also bigger. I am not saying it cannot be done, I was stating that it might get in the way of having He-Man riding Battle Cat or Wind Raider for example and that it wouldn't allow for a "He-Man pulling the sword out of the scabbard" pose. Meaning what might work for certain things, but doesn't for others...

 

[Kuzeh]

Ok, moving on... It's all good.
Since Lord Masque doesn't come with accessories I saw some people using the Avion staff and it looks great on him. I took a pic of him facing-off He-Man!
Masque is easily one of my favorite FILMATION MOTUC

 

[Eamon]

And if you read what I posted earlier,
this shows exactly what I was saying, that the scabbard needs to be bigger, now, that's Mike's sword, which is also bigger. I am not saying it cannot be done, I was stating that it might get in the way of having He-Man riding Battle Cat or Wind Raider for example and that it wouldn't allow for a "He-Man pulling the sword out of the scabbard" pose. Meaning what might work for certain things, but doesn't for others...

But the sheath can rotate. Even if it was longer it would still not hinder HM sat in BC as the sheath can rotate at little to the side and still look fine.
The sheath pops off so he can easily sit in the Wind Raider.
I don't see how this would compromise the grabbing sword pose either.

With a combo or raising the peg and lengthening the sheath it can be easily done and still maintain the look. This is not rocket science.

Though I for one would not be mixing my Filmation figures with my Classics due to how different they look. That's just me personally.

Though this now begs the questions as to weather we could get a Filmation styled Battle Cat? All it would need is a saddle and head change. Tough maybe the fur is too detailed for Filmation? Open to for other opinions on this here.

 

[Kuwahara]

It looks like the sheath pivots on a single peg, so it can be rotated out of the way if one wanted to pose He-Man on Battle Cat. I personally think the best solution is to keep the sheath small and have a removable sword handle as indicated in previous pics in this thread.

IMO, a Filmation Battle Cat would have to be redone in less detail, with no fur or at the very least some areas that suggest fur, kinda like how the new He-Man loin cloth is less detailed but suggests fur.

 

[stshammgod]

Anyone have a filmation he-man for a reasonable price? I'd swap a prototype 6" fett for him

 

[Kuzeh]

But the sheath can rotate. Even if it was longer it would still not hinder HM sat in BC as the sheath can rotate at little to the side and still look fine.
The sheath pops off so he can easily sit in the Wind Raider.
I don't see how this would compromise the grabbing sword pose either.

With a combo or raising the peg and lengthening the sheath it can be easily done and still maintain the look. This is not rocket science.

Though I for one would not be mixing my Filmation figures with my Classics due to how different they look. That's just me personally.

Though this now begs the questions as to weather we could get a Filmation styled Battle Cat? All it would need is a saddle and head change. Tough maybe the fur is too detailed for Filmation? Open to for other opinions on this here.

Yeah, I mean, it can rotate but might look weird, I'm sure Mike will print it soon enough and we'll see how it looks. He does some amazing stuff, I've been tempted to get some of his items, but have limited budget...

And the possibility with all the Filmation characters is endless, they could redo about 80% of Classics on Filmation Style, but I am not sure I have the cash or the space for that!
I am going to stick to core characters for these, meaning, Skelly, Beast Man, Evil Lyn, Trap Jaw, Tri-Klops, Merman... maybe Clawful... Good guys, Teela, MAA, Stratos, Meckaneck, ManEFaces and Fisto. As for the Horde, I will only get Hordak, and that would be it...
Now a Filmation Castle Grayskull would be awesome!!

 

[teemu]

A Filmation Greyskull would be cool,but I just don't see that happening as the one we currently have is good enough for both Classics and Filmation,The final playsets I want to buy are Classics Snake Mountain and Fright Zone.

 

[BetterThanKenobi83]

A Filmation Greyskull would be cool,but I just don't see that happening as the one we currently have is good enough for both Classics and Filmation,The final playsets I want to buy are Classics Snake Mountain and Fright Zone.

I think they should do Crystal Castle next after Snake Mountain if said Mountain sells well enough to warrant another bigger playset. Just seems right for the POP to finally have a playset after MOTU gets two of its most iconic ones. Plus, Crystal Castle could really turn out interesting with todays sculpting and the 4H at the helm doing the interior.

 

[BetterThanKenobi83]

A Filmation Greyskull would be cool,but I just don't see that happening as the one we currently have is good enough for both Classics and Filmation,The final playsets I want to buy are Classics Snake Mountain and Fright Zone.

It is interesting though that the Grayskull has not shown up again on their online store. Does that mean its sold out for good, they are going to make more, or are we possibly getting a 2.0 revised version ( not filmation ) that is coming with additional features to match SM when it comes out ?

 

[teemu]

I think they should do Crystal Castle next after Snake Mountain if said Mountain sells well enough to warrant another bigger playset. Just seems right for the POP to finally have a playset after MOTU gets two of its most iconic ones. Plus, Crystal Castle could really turn out interesting with todays sculpting and the 4H at the helm doing the interior.

I disagree on Crystal Castle.I wouldn't buy it and I know a few others who collect this line that wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.I don't see an expensive $300-400 POP playset selling well at all......the next set after SM needs to be Fright Zone at the lesser playset cost

 

[Kuwahara]

Crystal Castle is essentially a doll house for the POP figures, which are basically action figure sized dolls. I also don't see it happening in the classics style. Fright Zone could potentially be pretty amazing if done right.

I'm still waiting to see how Snake Mountain comes out. Seeing as Point Dread was butchered, I don't have much faith in any future play sets being done right, but we shall see.

 

[xequae]

I might buy Crystal Castle depending on how it is done. A Filmation version of Fright Zone would be more appealing. Not sure about room for more playsets though. Still not sure where I'm going to fit Snake Mountain.

I think it would be great if they made the Slime Pit. Would look cool and wouldn't cost as much or take up as much room.

 

[Kuzeh]

I'd prefer to see Fright Zone (mix of Filmation and Vintage) first, but I can see POP fans wanting one for their collections... With that said, I wouldn't be interested at all, I finally was able to get rid of all the POP figures I didn't want at a loss... [emoji16]