@Solidus: Actually I agree with you on those, the only thing I'm refuting is
The Boss's stance in imparting her sense of loyalty to Big Boss which proved to be gravely false. If The Boss had simply wanted Big Boss to live the life of a loyal soldier, she wouldn't have imparted that truth to him. She wanted to expose that truth to prevent him from living a similar life to hers as a loyal soldier under the exploit of a corrupt governing body, except he took it as literally waging war on the rest of America while making child soldiers out of war-torn nations.
12:05 to
19:30 details the events of The Boss's regret over a "failed" mission and how The Boss wanted America to be set back on its various projects to prevent further conflict:
I don't mind the idea of personal interpretations, but you specifically called out mine when I based my own assessment on established canon from both MGS3 and PW. I don't mind picking and choosing which stuff to ignore and better our experiences with the series, but the fact remains that you were refuting one of my claims as false without accounting for the details I derived from PW, which is still considered as a major part of Big Boss's story canon.
No offense but it just feels a little underhanded to call me out on my interpretation and then outright tell me that you couldn't remember the stuff I'm mentioning in PW since you weren't so keen on its retcons.
Isn't that just your own assumption, though? Again, The Boss trained Big Boss in CQC. She was his mentor, and he had spent most his career as combat solider under her direction (prior to MGS 3). If she was in such deep, existential regret, then why would she even have a pupil in the first place? If you remember her quote from MGS 3, "One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat.
"The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny, and the one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." So, from that alone, she expected Big Boss to carry on her legacy in the battlefield.
That was an interesting briefing file, though. It did sound like she was pretty remorseful about what transpired after her mission (I'll give you that one
). But, she even says in that very recording, "above all, I must remain loyal to the end". So, it's wrong to generalize that snippet of recording, to assume that she just completely fell out of love with America, and wanted Big Boss to turn his back on his country. Regardless of how much she was screwed-over, she valued loyalty above all else, but Big Boss chose a different path for his life.
You do bring up a good point about the established canon, though. Peace Walker has plot holes that contradict the revelations from MGS 4. In Eva's debriefing to Solid Snake, she mentioned that Big Boss formed Outer Heaven as a means to accomplish The Boss' will. While in Peace Walker, it's essentially said, that Big Boss formed Outer Heaven by rejecting the Boss' sense of sacrifice by "putting down her gun". So, I guess if we have to discuss MGS, it would be good to distinguish the canon from MGS 4 from that of Peace Walker's. For all intents and purposes, it does feel like this series has gone off in an alternate timeline for the last several years
.