Media Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain & Ground Zeroes

[Solidus]

What the hell has Kojima done to this series...? I thought the stuff from MGS 3 was twisted enough, but dear god. Way too much darkness. This isn't the Governor from TWD.

 

[playboy409]

unfortunately that's what war does to people.

 

[Henry Morgan*]

I always though the Governor was a bit of a p***y

If they gang banged Paz at least it's something what would actually happen Soldiers get lonely as hell if a woman is around it brings out the worse in them.

... war brings out the worst of people, at least its something you hear it would be VERY different to see this

 

[Jesterhead]

Although Skull Face does some awful things, I get the feeling that he doesn't get kicks out of it. He's doing it for info on Cipher and Mother Base only. While he's still vile and awful, I think there's more to him than just a 'generic bad guy' (Or at least I hope Kojima has more in store for him...). The tape where he reveals some of his past was really interesting.

But, damn! He had the organs that Paz wouldn't need for long term survival removed in order to make room for the bombs!

:eek

 

[pturtle]

I got S rank on every mission some hours ago its not difficult, you just have to be careful. Don't retry, don't get spotted/trigger alert, don't kill anyone thats the most important part I think.

A few hours ago I finished GZ mission in 56 minutes and surprisingly I got S rank so I guess time doesn't matter that much.

pturtle have you listened to all the tapes? I got all of them now, its crazy ... Paz had that last bomb in her special place I think it was tape 5 or 4, someone says the bomb is 'somewhere no one would look'

Skullface forces Chico to... do stuff, and I think some soldiers gangbang Paz at some point

ew..

Skullface is the most ****ed up villain ever, he could be worst than Volgin

He definitely worse than Volgin already. I listened to all of them, pretty crazy stuff man.

If they gang banged Paz at least it's something what would actually happen Soldiers get lonely as hell if a woman is around it brings out the worse in them.

Yea, it's sick, but it was a common thing in war. Camp Omega is pretty much the series version Guantanamo Bay, and a lot of sick stuff was said to have gone on in there.




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[Solidus]

unfortunately that's what war does to people.

Yeah, but MGS was never a realistic war series, and the games were always light-hearted in terms of the violent themes. In terms of consistency, it doesn't make sense going from a PG-13 storyline from Peace Walker, to full on blood, guts, and rape in MGS Ground Zeroes (which takes place just a few weeks after PW).

 

[Henry Morgan*]

I felt it was always part of MGS, even in MGS1 Wolf's story is somewhat realistic and sad, she doesn't give details but you can imagine, but now Kojima shoves this up in our faces.. thats the difference

Although Skull Face does some awful things, I get the feeling that he doesn't get kicks out of it. He's doing it for info on Cipher and Mother Base only. While he's still vile and awful, I think there's more to him than just a 'generic bad guy' (Or at least I hope Kojima has more in store for him...). The tape where he reveals some of his past was really interesting.

But, damn! He had the organs that Paz wouldn't need for long term survival removed in order to make room for the bombs!

:eek

For some reason I think he may have been born in Africa or maybe Easter Europe. I think he gets pleasure out of what he does... otherwise why would he make Chico do stuff to Paz .. anyway

I think he will be an intresting character, I wonder what is his problem with Zero

He definitely worse than Volgin already. I listened to all of them, pretty crazy stuff man.

its insane...

I'm looking forward to kick Skullface's *** in TPP

 

[pturtle]

Although Skull Face does some awful things, I get the feeling that he doesn't get kicks out of it. He's doing it for info on Cipher and Mother Base only. While he's still vile and awful, I think there's more to him than just a 'generic bad guy' (Or at least I hope Kojima has more in store for him...). The tape where he reveals some of his past was really interesting.

But, damn! He had the organs that Paz wouldn't need for long term survival removed in order to make room for the bombs!

:eek

Yea, it seems whatever happened to him, kind of "enlightened" him, like he's trying to show other people the "true" way to live. Do you have any clue where he could be from? He gives very few hints.


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[Henry Morgan*]

I wonder how old is Skullface... he said he and Big Boss "go way back" if we knew is age we could have an idea..

 

[Jesterhead]

Do you have any clue where he could be from? He gives very few hints.

He gives up so little. I think that's one of the most interesting things about Skull Face, he's so disfigured and admits that English isn't his native language, so we can't assume anything about his character based on race. A great trick to get around racial profiling for a villain!

 

[krec9]

Yeah, but MGS was never a realistic war series, and the games were always light-hearted in terms of the violent themes. In terms of consistency, it doesn't make sense going from a PG-13 storyline from Peace Walker, to full on blood, guts, and rape in MGS Ground Zeroes (which takes place just a few weeks after PW).

See that's the thing Kojima knows he can't do the same suit this has to be a dark story is the only way to sell it something so twist so ****ed has to change big boss over to the bastard we know. While I don't enjoy those scenes it's part of the story maybe Kojima can do things he couldn't get away with before.

 

[Henry Morgan*]

BTW this shows up after GZ



Nothing we haven't seen before, but the music is something I haven't heard before

 

[Solidus]

See that's the thing Kojima knows he can't do the same suit this has to be a dark story is the only way to sell it something so twist so ****ed has to change big boss over to the bastard we know. While I don't enjoy those scenes it's part of the story maybe Kojima can do things he couldn't get away with before.

That's a good point. Kojima probably needs to make these games dark, and twisted in order for them sell now days. But, the game was censored in Japan, so I'm not sure if he's really getting away with much .

As, for Big Boss going to the "dark side", I think there's already enough premise for that as established in the storylines. Both he and his mentor were betrayed by the government, and he was tricked into killing her. And then in Peace Walker, he was forced to relive the tragedy all over again, and take her out for a second time. He was also experimented on, and his cells were extracted to make freaky gene-babies from the "Les Enfants Terribles" project. So, it makes the whole "revenge" theme from MGS GZ a bit moot, when he has already suffered so much in the past. My question is (rhetorically), why does Big Boss need so much prodding before finally taking The Patriots in hand, when he already has enough justification for revenge?

 

[Solidus]

BTW this shows up after GZ



Nothing we haven't see before, but the music is something I haven't heard before

Probably a mix from Konami. The soundtrack for this is looking to be something spectacular.

 

[Henry Morgan*]

The album and the artbook of TPP, those are things I will need

 

[Rock83]

I think it could work, if you get the tape, then reach a check point, go to return to main menu. I think it can work that way. I recommend trying it like that.

I just started the main mission and went straight to a certain point of the base i knew i would find one of Chico's tapes.Only took me a couple of minutes,called the helicopter to abort the mission.Yeah it didn't work so now we at least know we have to complete them to unlock anything you find during the mission and side ops.

 

[Solidus]

It sucks how we'll have to wait another year, to finally hear the full version of "Sins of the Father". It's definitely one of the best songs I've heard in MGS.

 

[Hidden Jitsu]

Without me reading through the full thread is ground zero a full campaign game or is it just one small open world map?
A question for people whom have completed this how long was it? I know it is only £25.00 but I want to know what to exoect

 

[Jesterhead]

Without me reading through the full thread is ground zero a full campaign game or is it just one small open world map?
A question for people whom have completed this how long was it? I know it is only £25.00 but I want to know what to exoect

One small open world map. All of the Side Ops and Extra Ops use this map as well. I finished the main mission in about 1.5 hours the first time around. So far, I've put in about 10 hours in total.

 

[Henry Morgan*]

Without me reading through the full thread is ground zero a full campaign game or is it just one small open world map?
A question for people whom have completed this how long was it? I know it is only £25.00 but I want to know what to exoect

It depends, this is worth it if you played Peace Walker at least, its a small open world. Its fun a replayable you can finish the each mission is different ways each time you play. You should watch a few gameplay vids !