MMS Diecast - Iron Man: 1/6th scale Mark III Collectible Figure

[Hologram AI]

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awesome shot

Love the "Reindeer Games" pose, Hologram AI!!

That is an awesome pose! I think it looks especially badass when viewed head-on, like in your first pic. Well done!

Thanks everyone.

I have a theory which may or may not be accurate, but I actually suspect this figure DOES have side to side ankle articulation. How about that? The only problem is it is made non-existent because the ankle armor is so close to the ankles that it prohibits side to side movement. The Iron Patriot/War Machine Mark II armor has ankle guards like these, but the difference is they are wider to allow that side-to-side motion.

Anyone brave enough to take this guy's lower legs apart to find out? I'm not sure, but I suspect this is the case since the ankles do move an ever so slight 1/16 of an inch when the side-to-side pivot is attempted.

It's not on a ball joint. Just on a rolling circle joint that circles forward and back. You moving it 1/6 an inch is just you forcing the plastic to bend side to side.

There is room for ankle articulation and if they actually gave it some thought they could have just made the side ankle armor as a flap that moves when the foot moves left and right.

It's not a question of them not being able to implement and engineer it. They just didn't think of doing so.

 

[Motuxmen]

I doubt it was them not thinking about doing it. They didn't forget the ankles. It has ankles. On a joint. They had to be designed. It's more likely they choose to do it the way they did. Every single part and pieces has to be engineered and tested and laid out and tooling done ect.

 

[Motuxmen]

Still trying to defend your position on this myth/lie. I will say it out loud, I do not believe you have any connection to anyone at Hot Toys so your statement that you got confirmation has no weight with me.


I also think it is very disingenuous that you choose the chest plate as an example since it really only has one difference between the two versions but lets dissect your logic.

The die cast version has 2 additional tabs on the side wrap around panels that are not present in the construction version. So you are saying that they “file” these off for the construction version?


That is a ridiculous manufacturing process considering that they could simply modify the program that runs the machines that make the molds and they could produce separate chest plate mold for each version, for next to nothing.

This isn't the 1940s when skilled craftsmen got paid top dollar based on their mold making skills. This is the 21st century and making a new mold is as simple as loading the billet material into a machine and pushing a button.






Now lets look at something more substantial.


The back and the back panels

The die cast version is on the right and the construction version is on the left, it is easy to see that these 2 versions have nothing in common




Now lets look at the back of the die cast version exposed. If you pop of the 4 flaps on the construction version you will see that those very intricate mechanical details are non existent on that version.

The battery box and panel hinge systems, which are molded into the dies cast version, are also absent on the construction version, and the large flaps on the die cast version are hinged in the middle, where as the construction version is not.





So please explain how Hot Toys pulled parts from the same molds (YOUR WORDS) and them changed then into what is actually present on the 2 versions.

I explained how it's done. Your just not versed enough to understand.

You don't even understand how tooling works. The cavity can have multiple inserts. Meaning one set of tooling can be adapted by inserting or removing pieces. Making it able to be solid, or have joins. The tooling has an outer "sleeve"(easiest way to describe to someone that has no actually experience), which is at least two pieces. It has at least two inner components, called mold cavity. For a hot toys iron man figure they have a dozen or so swappable inserts so that the Family tooling/mold can be adjusted to accommodate seperate and unique platforms. Allowing different internal and external parts to be added or removed.

Your problem is you have a total lack of knowledge about how the process works. These are not solid single block pieces, but multiple pieces.

 

[Boba Debt]

You have no idea of how versed I am in the process.

There is no way you can insert anything into a mold and suddenly create a hinge joint or a battery box.

But the more practical reason for not doing it is molds are cheap to manufacture so there is no reason to not have multiple molds.

it is the initial computer code that costs money and that is how companies save money. They manipulate the code, not the mold.

 

[karamazov80]

Agree to disagree and move on, fellas.

 

[hockeyflow33]

Agree to disagree and move on, fellas.

+1


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[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Agree to disagree and move on, fellas.

+1

+2

bit of civil war

Here's my current pose for the Mark 3.

I really can't do much with the legs since it just causes the foot to look awkward as hell without the ankle articulation.

Beautiful pics fellas and everyone else.

 

[GeneralZodLives]

Agree to disagree and move on, fellas.

This x Infinity

 

[Wuffles]

In other news, mine shipped today and will be here Monday! Super stoked!


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[jimcap]

Here's my current pose for the Mark 3.

I really can't do much with the legs since it just causes the foot to look awkward as hell without the ankle articulation.

Love the smoke effect!

Agree to disagree and move on, fellas.

 

[karamazov80]

Enough with the bickering. Last warning. If it continues, infractions will be given.

 

[Boba Debt]

Enough with the bickering. Last warning. If it continues, infractions will be given.

Where was this heavy handed moderation when a lot of people were bickering about the height, lack of die cast, color and lack of articulation for page after page?

Why is it okay for some people to bicker about completely off topic issues in various threads and flat out troll members yet I can't debate the merits of Motx's claim about the providence of this armor?

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Tried the landing pose. This is all I could get.
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At this point it's clearly easier to solve that Rubix Cube than it is to get this in a landing/ground pound pose.

 

[karamazov80]

Why is it okay for some people to bicker about completely off topic issues in various threads and flat out troll members yet I can't debate the merits of Motx's claim about the providence of this armor?

Because this has become very tedious, and the argument has been reported multiple times by multiple members. If someone is trolling, report it. Like I told you previously, hash it out in PMs if you think you can persuade each other to your side, but don't use the forum for your pissing contest. No one else wants to see it. The arguments have been made, people will believe what they want, it's over.

 

[Armymedic1980]

I completely love this armor. Anybody who doesn't like it for the various reasons given here, then just send it back. But that would be a grave mistake. This will be a highly sought out HT figure and those gripes won't matter to a collector. And that lighted arc reactor is so cool as a bonus accessory.

 

[HeubertMichael]

Here's my current pose for the Mark 3.

I really can't do much with the legs since it just causes the foot to look awkward as hell without the ankle articulation.

Re-quoting Holo's excellent photos for this page. Still undecided to keep my order despite already seeing good photos such as this and seeing it in-hand. My wanting a Mark III says yes, but my not being fully satisfied with this Mark III as the issues are kind of bothering me personally makes a part of me say no. What Holo said about the feet looking awkward is one of my concerns, I noticed them even in museum poses with wider leg stance.

 

[karamazov80]

This is the last I'll post publicly about this issue--it's dead, Jim. If you have more questions, rebuttals, or complaints, feel free to send them to each other, to myself, or to the admin directly.

 

[koolkollectibleskhai]

All I can say is.....WOW!! The original Iron Man movie is still my favourite from the MCU, and the Mk3 my favourite suit. So this new Hot Toys Mk3 diecast figure will be my first and last Iron Man figure. And what an incredible figure it is!!

One nitpick that could've made it even better would be an ankle rocking motion. It tilts up and down, but not side to side so you cant have the feet flat on the ground when his legs are wide. And of course those frickin little sticky wraps on the arms and silver flaps - there's a special place in hell for the person at Hot Toys that places those on the figures!

But overall, I am really impressed. I love the shoulder and hip articulation, and how the armour moves around the joints. And that deep candy red glossy paint app is damn near perfect!!

So glad that this is the figure I picked to be my one and only IM figure!

 

[Hologram AI]

Re-quoting Holo's excellent photos for this page. Still undecided to keep my order despite already seeing good photos such as this and seeing it in-hand. My wanting a Mark III says yes, but my not being fully satisfied with this Mark III as the issues are kind of bothering me personally makes a part of me say no. What Holo said about the feet looking awkward is one of my concerns, I noticed them even in museum poses with wider leg stance.

Cheers

It really comes down to how much you love the Mark 3 itself and if you're able to look past it's limitation. The lack of articulation in the figure really makes it a figure that I'll pose once and then probably never touch again. The Mark 43 on the other hand I am changing poses every week due to it being able to move around so freely.

That's not to say the figure doesn't look good when posed but it is disappointing having to work around those issues to get it right. Entirely up to each person though if they're happy with the way it is or if they don't mind the set backs. I wouldn't have kept the figure if it wasn't for the fact that I have been waiting to put a Mark 3 figure in my collection for a very long time. There is no shortage of Iron Man figures and I can see people waiting out on a Diecast Mark 4/5/6/7 to get their fill on a older Mark suit.

 

[zackhigh1226]

Order summary updated to "Shipped"...check!
Shipping e-mail...check!
UPS tracking number located...check!

I should finally have this guy on Monday! Everybody's awesome pictures have made me unbearably excited!