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In the end, my point was simply that NECA could in fact survive with the higher-end collectors' money, because we know by now that good Predator merchandise sells extremely well. The only thing keeping this from happening and actually working is the kind of company that NECA is. It's too big a leap from their general stuff, so they won't try it out.
that's the thing. Predator merchandise in of itself doesn't sell extremely well. i mean, it does ok, but it's not Star Wars or Batman by a long shot. a very, very long shot. you're probably basing your idea off of Hot Toys Predator stuff. which does sell pretty well... because they don't make very many of them. it's easy to sell collectible merchandise when all you make is a few thousand units. these figures are kinda popular with Predator fans, somewhat known by general scifi fans, and that's really it. not much of a customer base to digging into pockets from.

basically what i'm saying is NECA should just cater to my collecting whims and make some ******* nice Predator figures without considering possible financial ruin.
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dunno, last i looked, it said "temporarily out of stock" or something and they're supposed to get more at some point. go hop on twitter and ask Randy about it.
 
basically what i'm saying is NECA should just cater to my collecting whims and make some ******* nice Predator figures without considering possible financial ruin.

Or they could put out a limited run of only a few thousand each... Limit 5,000 (less if necessary) copies of every Predator character, go all-out and include everything needed, and price them at $175-$200.
If it looks like high-end stuff, high-end collectors will pay for it.

If all else fails though, the catering to whims thing would be cool, too. Kyle could become Hot Toys' US-resident sculptor. :lol
 
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Which Pred is to the right of "Shaman"/ Hippie?
 
That would be Borg.

I don't think the orange-ish one is Shaman (Pred community calls him Boar), though. Looks more like Brother Boar, since he has a similar helmet, but differently painted.
 
Or they could put out a limited run of only a few thousand each... Limit 5,000 (less if necessary) copies of every Predator character, go all-out and include everything needed, and price them at $175-$200.
If it looks like high-end stuff, high-end collectors will pay for it.

If all else fails though, the catering to whims thing would be cool, too. Kyle could become Hot Toys' US-resident sculptor. :lol

The thing of it is how many high end fans are really out there? HT does limited runs and in China they don't have to clear as much profit for something to be a success. Could me sell a high end Predator for 200 dollars and really sell how many? We would have to sell many more than HT for the figure to be worth it. The Q is this how many fans will pay 80 dollars and how many will pay 200? It's a much better chance to sell the figure at 80 than 200. I rather go High end any day but in the end the figure needs to make money. SS for example when they do a statue they make what 800 pieces? No metal molds that cost 10 of 1000s of dollars. Really their smart because it's way cheaper and remember they did injection action figures 10 years ago and left it to do more statue stuff. Maybe on certain figures like P1 after we've done our run at 80 dollars we could afford to go back and do a small limited run and give him all the bells and whistles and make it high end 200+ dollar figure. That would rule big time. Really though for 80 dollars has there ever been a better bang for the buck figure than our P1?
 
The thing of it is how many high end fans are really out there? HT does limited runs and in China they don't have to clear as much profit for something to be a success. Could me sell a high end Predator for 200 dollars and really sell how many? We would have to sell many more than HT for the figure to be worth it. The Q is this how many fans will pay 80 dollars and how many will pay 200? It's a much better chance to sell the figure at 80 than 200. I rather go High end any day but in the end the figure needs to make money. SS for example when they do a statue they make what 800 pieces? No metal molds that cost 10 of 1000s of dollars. Really their smart because it's way cheaper and remember they did injection action figures 10 years ago and left it to do more statue stuff. Maybe on certain figures like P1 after we've done our run at 80 dollars we could afford to go back and do a small limited run and give him all the bells and whistles and make it high end 200+ dollar figure. That would rule big time. Really though for 80 dollars has there ever been a better bang for the buck figure than our P1?

To answer how many people would pay $200, it really depends on the quality of the figure. If you can take those gorgeous sculpts, scale them up to 19" or 20", paint them like a high-end collectible, and make sure that the quality is up to par, we'd take them.

HT does do amazingly well and a lot of their market is also here in the US and across the rest of the world, as demonstrated by what you see on SSF. And what we see on this forum isn't even all of it. Plus, HT's sculpts aren't accurate, which is something all of us know for a fact. NECA is clearly superior in that department, but it's the lack of true quality that keeps the high-end guys from buying. If NECA produces a figure that is in fact deserving and features the full package (sculpt, paint, durability), you've got a hit. Granted, it wouldn't be a hit for impulse buys as you'd get 90% of your business (if not more) from online orders only, but you'd still have a hit with the pricier crowd.

Kind of like you said, you could test the waters by seeing what a high-end P1 could look like. Or maybe try a P2 first since it's something new that none of us have yet, so that'll give a bigger incentive to buy. It's still a character from the original movies, and with all those accessories, a giant high-end representation of him is something we've all been drooling for. If the original film monsters sell well, then that could greenlight production of the P2 Elder, Losties, etc.

It's true, a new venture like this is unpredictable, but the reason why is because no one has done something like this before. There isn't a single definitive figure of P1 or P2 that has both a high-end sculpt and true high-end paint apps and quality. This is new territory here; NECA's missing something that HT has been able to provide, while HT's missing something NECA's had all along. Combine the two and all of the 'versus' arguments will be over since this could potentially result in the Predator figure.




*whistles awkwardly* Sorry for the long posts, all. Just throwing in my two cents.
 
The thing of it is how many high end fans are really out there? HT does limited runs and in China they don't have to clear as much profit for something to be a success. Could me sell a high end Predator for 200 dollars and really sell how many? We would have to sell many more than HT for the figure to be worth it. The Q is this how many fans will pay 80 dollars and how many will pay 200? It's a much better chance to sell the figure at 80 than 200. I rather go High end any day but in the end the figure needs to make money. SS for example when they do a statue they make what 800 pieces? No metal molds that cost 10 of 1000s of dollars. Really their smart because it's way cheaper and remember they did injection action figures 10 years ago and left it to do more statue stuff. Maybe on certain figures like P1 after we've done our run at 80 dollars we could afford to go back and do a small limited run and give him all the bells and whistles and make it high end 200+ dollar figure. That would rule big time. Really though for 80 dollars has there ever been a better bang for the buck figure than our P1?
depends on your definition of "bells and whistles". there's more than enough high-end collectors on here to keep you in the predator business. but we're used to a certain level of quality. NECA isn't exactly synonymous with SSC in that regard. but we've got all the $$ to spend that you'll ever need if you can really knock these preds right out of the park. that means the highest quality paint apps, no cheaping out on materials or half-assed netting, and some sort of electronic/light-up feature wouldn't hurt either. oh, and we want ALL the heads with it. you gotta play ball with the big leagues if you really want that sweet sweet high-end collector market. we'll blow $200+ on HT preds that don't even look like the damn movie, so that shouldn't be the price cap on yours.
 
No, he meant to the Shaman's (long dreads) right...and that would be the P2 fig.

But there are no pics of it unfortunately.

The figure to Shaman's right our left is Borg. He's basically P2 but our painters did some nice work to not make him look dead on P2. Looking at these guys in the shop is very cool and I feel we nailed them very much. If only they could all be 19inches oh man. At least take the coolest ones and go 19 inches would flat out rule.
 
The figure to Shaman's right our left is Borg. He's basically P2 but our painters did some nice work to not make him look dead on P2. Looking at these guys in the shop is very cool and I feel we nailed them very much. If only they could all be 19inches oh man. At least take the coolest ones and go 19 inches would flat out rule.

Ok, you're confusing me.

Shaman is the long dreaded Pred (what you guys are calling the Hippie Pred right?)...

So, to the Shaman's right is NOT the Borg Pred, the Borg (black chest armor) is to the far LEFT of the Shaman.

Even if we consider the middle Pred to be the Shaman...you're post still isn't right Tankman.
 
depends on your definition of "bells and whistles". there's more than enough high-end collectors on here to keep you in the predator business. but we're used to a certain level of quality. NECA isn't exactly synonymous with SSC in that regard. but we've got all the $$ to spend that you'll ever need if you can really knock these preds right out of the park. that means the highest quality paint apps, no cheaping out on materials or half-assed netting, and some sort of electronic/light-up feature wouldn't hurt either. oh, and we want ALL the heads with it. you gotta play ball with the big leagues if you really want that sweet sweet high-end collector market. we'll blow $200+ on HT preds that don't even look like the damn movie, so that shouldn't be the price cap on yours.

I've been saying all along HT needs to nail the likenesses of these guys. They cost a lot and funs that get this stuff love film accurate figures. The new classic is by far their best effort and I can't wait to get him.
Still though how many higher quality 200+ dollar 19 inch Predators could we really sell? Didn't HT do like 500 of the Elder world wide? I know the lost Pred was discounted at Hastings for only 110 last year. Makes me think it didn't do so well and how many did HT make? NECA has to pay much more for me and the others workers. We live in the USA and the company has to sell more than HT and make more which there 200 dollar figure money wise goes further for them then it would for us. I know fans on here would get the high end stuff but really how many of us are out there? If HT could sell 15000 P1 figures at 150 dollars I bet they would. Only having like 1000 makes the higher price more OK because it's more for die hard collectors which are few and far between than the casual collector. Maybe we'll move into trying it some. Only two of us at work get HT figures and 7 of us are toy collectors. The other guys get He Man, Star Wars, Iron Man and such. Most of it is low end and our guys love some of the HT stuff but they just don't want to pay the big price tag. Much more toy guys will go after affordable figures while die hards like me will spend more to get more. I look at the nice Iron Man figures from Mattel or is it Hasbro and think OK they look good but if I get an iron Man I'm going after the HT figure. Only one or two others in the shop would do that and we're all toy geeks.
It's just a harder sell going high end and I'd love for us to get into it. For now after seeing CA I can't help but think man that kicked butt and HT did a beautify figure and I must get it. The new Batman looks great and the latest Classic Predator is in the same boat and as a fan myself I'm excited to get these guys. If only they'll redo Alien though because that figure needs a way better likeness.
 
Mine arrived today from Rage Toys via Amazon. I didn't really want the Predator Hound, but it was actually cheaper to buy all three as opposed to just the Elder and the Classic Predator. Apologies for the harsh lighting, this is just a quick snap.

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Ok, you're confusing me.

Shaman is the long dreaded Pred (what you guys are calling the Hippie Pred right?)...

So, to the Shaman's right is NOT the Borg Pred, the Borg (black chest armor) is to the far LEFT of the Shaman.

Even if we consider the middle Pred to be the Shaman...you're post still isn't right Tankman.

The one to our far left out of site is the Gort. My bad did I not say Gort? I've been at it hard on Predator stuff today and am tired. Borg is to the right AKA Lost Predator. The one to the far right is Gort. He's P2 like but we made just a few paint changes to make him a different Predator than P2. Still though it looks very accurate to the movie. What's fun is getting everybody to do their top 3. Shamon is always in everybody's top 3.
 
Mine arrived today from Rage Toys via Amazon. I didn't really want the Predator Hound, but it was actually cheaper to buy all three as opposed to just the Elder and the Classic Predator. Apologies for the harsh lighting, this is just a quick snap.

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How does P1 look? I saw the test shots and the factory change the paint design to be like our 19 inch figure. It look very nice as a test shot and much improved over the other P1's.
 
The one to our far left out of site is the Gort. My bad did I not say Gort? I've been at it hard on Predator stuff today and am tired. Borg is to the right AKA Lost Predator. The one to the far right is Gort. He's P2 like but we made just a few paint changes to make him a different Predator than P2. Still though it looks very accurate to the movie. What's fun is getting everybody to do their top 3. Shamon is always in everybody's top 3.

Ok, that makes sense.

Wish we had a pic of that Gort and the P2.
 
How does P1 look? I saw the test shots and the factory change the paint design to be like our 19 inch figure. It look very nice as a test shot and much improved over the other P1's.

I like the look of the improved paint job on the Lost Predator 2 ups. Showing us the Losties looking that good in that scale is cruel and mean because we'll never own such pieces.:gah: :wink1:
 
Mine arrived today from Rage Toys via Amazon. I didn't really want the Predator Hound, but it was actually cheaper to buy all three as opposed to just the Elder and the Classic Predator. Apologies for the harsh lighting, this is just a quick snap.

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The hound is deffo not in scale with Elder and P1.
 
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