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[Golden_Boy]

I don't think anybody expects Sideshow to decrease their prices and most collectors probably expect prices to go up gradually over time. What we are seeing now are constant shifts in the pricing structure every few months and much higher than normal percentage increases year over year. Edition sizes are larger than ever before, they are getting variant happy (especially with DC), and quality control is still a major concern, which makes me wonder why we are seeing such drastic changes in the price. I personally haven't seen any evidence that Sideshow is improving their product enough to make it worth the extra money right now. I have my fair share of their statues but AA Joker, Darkseid, and Spidey are all statues I would have considered at yesterday's prices. Today they are all passes for me.

This is pretty much why I've shifted my focus over to Hot Toys, and even there I'm selective! It's such a prime time for these companies, and yet prices are rising like crazy. Hot Toys can have some hits and misses with prices, but they really need to keep themselves in check, as they're approaching a goldmine with how many movies are on deck from just Marvel and DC alone (Batman Vs. Superman, Black Panther, Cap 3, Captain Marvel, Aquaman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Avengers Infinity Wars, Guardians 2, Green Lantern, and the list goes on and on!)

It's a fine line to walk testing price points to find your customers breaking point, because once you're there, it's usually too late.

 

[comicbookguy]

Sideshow usually puts pre-orders up on Thursdays(though they have done a few surprise pre-orders for special variants and things like that) between 2pm and 4pm EST. You can usually check the newsletter from the week before to see up coming Pre-orders and the Sideshow blog usually also has some information.

Thanks never knew this. I will be ready for future PO if need be now. But really the best info on everything is this site. That's where I always get my info instead of the SS site. This spidey reminds me of Mark Bailey style. (Spelled last name?) but anyways we must have a McFarlane art spidey in the future. Best run on spidey to date.

 

[Golden_Boy]

Wow this thread is too much to keep up and follow with. So much to read. I better stay away for a while. One things for sure is this spidey no matter if it's great or ok. It's way better than the first PF no question in my opinion. So glad I don't have the original. The fully sculpt is perfect compare to mix media on this. Price is high so I will just buy way later down the road. Still ant find pics of the ex head anywhere. I see the webbing on his hands. It's so small lol. But I still want to see the ex COH someday would be nice.

9,500 of the exact same post in various threads, with the remaining 200+ questioning why people respond the way they do to said 9,500 posts.

 

[Destroyous]

Yeah after this and Green Goblin I'm probably retiring. My only other pre orders I have right now is Doom, Hulk, Thor, and Lobo. The older pieces that I need have gotten too far out of reach at $800+ like Venom Com, Iron Man Com, Wolverine PF. And who knows by the time those get made again could be years when their retail could be at $800 as well. But I got into it late. I've got a lot of good characters, Batman, Superman, Cap, Joker, Catwoman, Deadpool, I even managed to get one of those White Storms directly through the site when they went up for pre order. So Im happy with my run at 37 pieces But I'm submitting now . The price point has just gotten that far out of reach.

 

[traylorc]

What I don't understand is people complaining about the price and still ordering.
Speak with your wallet, it's the only way SS will listen.

I have asked this question on numerous occasions...and never really get a response.

We have people that complain vehemently about Sideshow's pricing and quality control. There are countless posts about how Sideshow is "not the company the use to be" or people implying that the quality control issues are systemic based on a few examples found in the forums. How many posts have we read from people that are supposedly "done with Sideshow"?

For the record I am not stating that Sideshow has not aggressively increased prices or that there have not been instances of sloppy QC.

My question has always been...if the issues are SO bad...if the prices increases are so intolerable...if the QC issues are so rampant...how does anyone justify giving any of their business to Sideshow???? Some folks try to rationalize it by saying ..."well I am buying less Sideshow product". But...you are still buying from Sideshow. Why would anyone expect Sideshow to change their business practices if we keep giving them financial incentives??

At the end of the day...the only conclusion I can come to is that we are blowing the QC problems out of proportion and/or we are accepting of the price increases. The pricing increases and the supposed rampant quality control problems cannot be that bad if we are all continuing to frequent Sideshow threads and continue buying Sideshow products.

 

[w00tw00t]

I have asked this question on numerous occasions...and never really get a response.

We have people that complain vehemently about Sideshow's pricing and quality control. There are countless posts about how Sideshow is "not the company the use to be" or people implying that the quality control issues are systemic based on a few examples found in the forums. How many posts have we read from people that are supposedly "done with Sideshow"?

For the record I am not stating that Sideshow has not aggressively increased prices or that there have not been instances of sloppy QC.

My question has always been...if the issues are SO bad...if the prices increases are so intolerable...if the QC issues are so rampant...how does anyone justify giving any of their business to Sideshow???? Some folks try to rationalize it by saying ..."well I am buying less Sideshow product". But...you are still buying from Sideshow. Why would anyone expect Sideshow to change their business practices if we keep giving them financial incentives??

At the end of the day...the only conclusion I can come to is that we are blowing the QC problems out of proportion and/or we are accepting of the price increases. The pricing increases and the supposed rampant quality control problems cannot be that bad if we are all continuing to frequent Sideshow threads and continue buying Sideshow products.

i am sure members on the forum only account for a small fraction of SS buyers/collectors.

 

[jpuli28]

I have asked this question on numerous occasions...and never really get a response.

We have people that complain vehemently about Sideshow's pricing and quality control. There are countless posts about how Sideshow is "not the company the use to be" or people implying that the quality control issues are systemic based on a few examples found in the forums. How many posts have we read from people that are supposedly "done with Sideshow"?

For the record I am not stating that Sideshow has not aggressively increased prices or that there have not been instances of sloppy QC.

My question has always been...if the issues are SO bad...if the prices increases are so intolerable...if the QC issues are so rampant...how does anyone justify giving any of their business to Sideshow???? Some folks try to rationalize it by saying ..."well I am buying less Sideshow product". But...you are still buying from Sideshow. Why would anyone expect Sideshow to change their business practices if we keep giving them financial incentives??

At the end of the day...the only conclusion I can come to is that we are blowing the QC problems out of proportion and/or we are accepting of the price increases. The pricing increases and the supposed rampant quality control problems cannot be that bad if we are all continuing to frequent Sideshow threads and continue buying Sideshow products.

Drops the mic.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

i am sure members on the forum only account for a small fraction of SS buyers/collectors.

we are

 

[jpuli28]

9,500 of the exact same post in various threads, with the remaining 200+ questioning why people respond the way they do to said 9,500 posts.

We should dedicate a thread

 

[Zodach]

I know I still roll the dice sometimes with Sideshow because they are willing to accept a return if something is wrong with the product (within 30 days of course). But it does annoy me to no end when I've had a statue on preorder for over a year and as soon as I contact them they say they are out of replacement parts and can only offer me a partial refund or a full return, yet they are still selling the product on their website. This has happened to me twice in the last year (Superman and Captain America) and I know it's happened to others as well. The quality control doesn't stop me from ordering the products I really want, but coupled with substantially higher pricing, it holds me back from ordering pieces such as this that aren't at the top of my wish list.

 

[comicbookguy]

we are

We should advertise at movie theatres, newspapers, magazines, websites, etc to get more members. We should be the premium site for statues win, win?

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

I have asked this question on numerous occasions...and never really get a response.

We have people that complain vehemently about Sideshow's pricing and quality control. There are countless posts about how Sideshow is "not the company the use to be" or people implying that the quality control issues are systemic based on a few examples found in the forums. How many posts have we read from people that are supposedly "done with Sideshow"?

For the record I am not stating that Sideshow has not aggressively increased prices or that there have not been instances of sloppy QC.

My question has always been...if the issues are SO bad...if the prices increases are so intolerable...if the QC issues are so rampant...how does anyone justify giving any of their business to Sideshow???? Some folks try to rationalize it by saying ..."well I am buying less Sideshow product". But...you are still buying from Sideshow. Why would anyone expect Sideshow to change their business practices if we keep giving them financial incentives??

At the end of the day...the only conclusion I can come to is that we are blowing the QC problems out of proportion and/or we are accepting of the price increases. The pricing increases and the supposed rampant quality control problems cannot be that bad if we are all continuing to frequent Sideshow threads and continue buying Sideshow products.

Well in truth, I've never had an issue with Sideshows QC. I have never received a piece with an issue that they would not correct(I am knocking on wood as I type this). Now I've seen and read stories of such things here and to a lesser extent on Facebook but I can't hold them accountable for something I've never experienced.

With that beng said, yeah, I don't like the price increases. I look at these premium formats like art collectors look at Giclees. They are high end recreations of a single work of art made on a semi-mass produced(I say semi, because anyone who thinks a few thousand of something is a lot hasn't seen true manufacturing where they spit out half a million of something and it's drop in the bucket.) basis. Now I don't know how many people here have purchased or even know what a Giclee is but just think of it as a print, on canvas, using a very large resolution image of an original art work that may or may not be remarked by the artist in some way and they usually cost a quite a bit.

Now what you're telling me is that because I don't like the new prices, I should stop, flat out. However, I don't think that will necessarily hurt Sideshow as much as you think it will. I think there would need to be at least a few thousand people stopping flat out to really hurt them. So who does it hurt? Well it hurts me, because I'm no longer collecting, which I enjoy. So, instead of stopping, how about slowing down. Sure, tough choices will need to be made but slowing down still gives them less of my money and keeps me doing something I enjoy.

Of course there will come a time when I simply can't justify paying what they demand for their pieces any more, or the ratio of enjoyment for my money is no longer there and it's probably coming more quickly now, but no, I don't think me just stopping is going to hurt them as much as you think and I know me stopping will just make me miss something I enjoy. So for now I'll figure out ways around it.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

I know I still roll the dice sometimes with Sideshow because they are willing to accept a return if something is wrong with the product (within 30 days of course). But it does annoy me to no end when I've had a statue on preorder for over a year and as soon as I contact them they say they are out of replacement parts and can only offer me a partial refund or a full return, yet they are still selling the product on their website. This has happened to me twice in the last year (Superman and Captain America) and I know it's happened to others as well. The quality control doesn't stop me from ordering the products I really want, but coupled with substantially higher pricing, it holds me back from ordering pieces such as this that aren't at the top of my wish list.

I've seen this posted a few times. If they break into a new statue that's numbered to just give you a replacement part then a. They've just ruined another statue and b. they just broke their production number by reducing the amount available. Now, that being said, I've heard that Sideshow orders some rediculous amount of replacements like "1%" or even a fraction of a percentage. This is not a normal practice when you are dealing with fragile items. And this is basically where they seem to really be cheaping out. I work for an auto manufacturer on the prototype side of the business. So we only produce a fraction of that a procustion run does just for testing. We still order a full 3% overbuy for replacements incase of breakages or loss.

What needs to happen is Sideshow needs to up their replacement overbuy percentage by using the data they get from people calling in saying they need replacements.

 

[sarakawa]

I have asked this question on numerous occasions...and never really get a response.

We have people that complain vehemently about Sideshow's pricing and quality control. There are countless posts about how Sideshow is "not the company the use to be" or people implying that the quality control issues are systemic based on a few examples found in the forums. How many posts have we read from people that are supposedly "done with Sideshow"?

For the record I am not stating that Sideshow has not aggressively increased prices or that there have not been instances of sloppy QC.

My question has always been...if the issues are SO bad...if the prices increases are so intolerable...if the QC issues are so rampant...how does anyone justify giving any of their business to Sideshow???? Some folks try to rationalize it by saying ..."well I am buying less Sideshow product". But...you are still buying from Sideshow. Why would anyone expect Sideshow to change their business practices if we keep giving them financial incentives??

At the end of the day...the only conclusion I can come to is that we are blowing the QC problems out of proportion and/or we are accepting of the price increases. The pricing increases and the supposed rampant quality control problems cannot be that bad if we are all continuing to frequent Sideshow threads and continue buying Sideshow products.

For me personally, even with the QC mishaps and the rising prices, I can still afford to buy the pieces I really want. I used to order more but I just don't want to order as much with the prices hikes, EX choices, ES, and QC. Plus, I am pretty content with my collection right now. I still have wants but not as much as a couple years ago and it's a great time to slow down. SSC does make it easy to PO since we can just return for full refunds if we don't like what we get.

 

[dino76m]

I have asked this question on numerous occasions...and never really get a response.

We have people that complain vehemently about Sideshow's pricing and quality control. There are countless posts about how Sideshow is "not the company the use to be" or people implying that the quality control issues are systemic based on a few examples found in the forums. How many posts have we read from people that are supposedly "done with Sideshow"?

For the record I am not stating that Sideshow has not aggressively increased prices or that there have not been instances of sloppy QC.

My question has always been...if the issues are SO bad...if the prices increases are so intolerable...if the QC issues are so rampant...how does anyone justify giving any of their business to Sideshow???? Some folks try to rationalize it by saying ..."well I am buying less Sideshow product". But...you are still buying from Sideshow. Why would anyone expect Sideshow to change their business practices if we keep giving them financial incentives??

At the end of the day...the only conclusion I can come to is that we are blowing the QC problems out of proportion and/or we are accepting of the price increases. The pricing increases and the supposed rampant quality control problems cannot be that bad if we are all continuing to frequent Sideshow threads and continue buying Sideshow products.

I have drastically reduced my pre-orders, I wish i could completely bow out but i need certain items like the Black cat to complete my campbell collection and art prints to go with statues I ordered,,sooner or later i might be completely off SIdeshow .. now that companies like Prime 1, PCS, XM and Chronicle are around..
I also SIdeshow might have no option but to go back to their old business practice which are proving successfull for the other companies I named

 

[savageHULK]

If you're having Sideshow Collectibles Statue/Quality Control problems, I feel bad for you son... 'Cause I got 99 problems, but that ain't one.

 

[jpuli28]

^ Nice lol. I have to say the same, Ive been fortunate (knock knock knock). But unfortunately it doesn't change that fact they exist through the plethora of pics posted. I just hope my number never comes up

 

[jpuli28]

I wish the CoH was this...

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No?

 

[jpuli28]

Someone say rounder head, thinner eyes?

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[Mister Ski]

Love the pose. I just hope Sideshow did extensive age testing on it. My biggest concern would be leaning (especially at his right wrist and shoulder) over time.