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Since we're making predictions, mine is that the Dolphins will pick (or trade for) a QB in the 2nd round of the draft this year. :rolleyes:

The Bills need the QB, keep your wildcat mitts out of the jar. :emperor

Watch out now for the offensive juggernaut that is the .... Redskins?! :horror
 

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Saints were playing badly on purpose. They're just lulling their potential playoff opponents into a false sense of security. Anyone can see that.

And more evidence that coaches should keep playing starters in pointless f'ing games--Saints defensive end Charles Grant is out of the playoffs with a torn triceps after playing the game in Carolina. Yeah, putting your starters in in pointless games going into the playoffs. Brilliant.
 
Saints were playing badly on purpose. They're just lulling their potential playoff opponents into a false sense of security. Anyone can see that.

And more evidence that coaches should keep playing starters in pointless f'ing games--Saints defensive end Charles Grant is out of the playoffs with a torn triceps after playing the game in Carolina. Yeah, putting your starters in in pointless games going into the playoffs. Brilliant.

There was a debate about playing starters at the end of the season after locking up whatever seed you can possibly get on the radio the other day.

It went back-and-forth pretty evenly, but I am for playing them and letting the cards fall where they may. To me, it is not all about how far a team gets (good thing for me, being a Steelers fan, this year). It is about the heart and the muscle and blood put in to playing the game. I would rather see a 100% effort that ends up poorly for a team in the playoffs than to see ANY game mailed in.
 
All I knows is, the Saints didn't need to get one of their better defensive guys hurt going into the playoffs. Our defense sucks bad enough with our good players healthy.
 
If the Saints get knocked out of the playoffs after their first game...they still have more to be proud of than any other team this year. Even any team that wins the Superbowl if it is NOT them.
 
I agree that they should be proud of what they did. Apart from a few isolated seasons here and there, this is a perennial loser team and has been since its inception, and going 13-0 is no small event for this franchise (we aren't talking about the Colts here). Unfortunately, I think all the fans will remember if they go out early is how they floundered out when it mattered most.
 
I heard talk recently about the N.F.L. Commissioner possibly enforcing teams (I don't know how he could do this) to play their starters in ALL of the regular season games. Whether or not the team has won a playoff seed or not. I don't know if this will really happen or not next season. I guess we'll see about that won't we?

The Saints have done an INCREDIBLE job this season! From every player, to every coach, this team has done what NO other Saints team has ever done in the 42 year history of this franchise. Win 13 games, and win them in a row. So we as fans of the Saints are VERY happy and proud of that this season! :D

It sucks to hear that Charles Grant is out with a triceps injury. He has been very inconsistent this season. When he "turns it on" like he did in some games this season, he's great. But then in some games you won't hear about him, or see him make plays. We could really use him in the playoffs.

I agree karamazov80 that it definitely looked like the Saints were NOT playing up to their own level against the Panthers. They should have. Even if it was a "meaningless game".

As far as Star Trek 2 goes "SixMillionDollarManGuy" I agree about the "over-acting". That's one of the best things about it that I still enjoy such much! Who could have imagined a Star Trek villain quoting Shakespeare? Plus looking like he could bench press Kirk with one hand? Khan will always be my favorite Star Trek villain. R.I.P. Ricardo Montalban.

GO SAINTS!
 
I agree that they should be proud of what they did. Apart from a few isolated seasons here and there, this is a perennial loser team and has been since its inception, and going 13-0 is no small event for this franchise (we aren't talking about the Colts here). Unfortunately, I think all the fans will remember if they go out early is how they floundered out when it mattered most.


To me, that is the root of the problem. My own opinion, and that is all that it is...an opinion, is that it does not make for a good fan for that fan to hate on their own team for it's lesser moments. If I were a part of an NFL team, I would openly invite those fans to find another team as quickly as I would invite the violent fans like Raider fans to do the same. To me, it is similar to the way you would support a family member. You don't beat them down for their failures...you celebrate their successes and do whatever is in your station to encourage improvement.

Nobody likes to be browbeaten for their failures. Fans have to give the team reason to want to succeed for them. Fans and teams are groups of people no different than any other. And whether it works well or not, it is always the correct thing to do to celebrate successes and it is always the wrong thing to do to berate for failures. Fans have a lot of impact on a team's attitude, positive or negative. And the teams attitude is a big part of the foundation for a successful program.

Edit - And to me, this attitude dictates that no matter what happens for the post season...Saints fans SHOULD be the very proudest fans in all of NFL-dom.
 
I agree karamazov80 that it definitely looked like the Saints were NOT playing up to their own level against the Panthers. They should have. Even if it was a "meaningless game".
GO SAINTS!
Well, I never said they should have played harder, though. I think they should have forfeited if possible :lol

It is about winning in the playoffs, and I don't think that game did, or could have done anything to really help with that.

an opinion, is that it does not make for a good fan for that fan to hate on their own team for it's lesser moments.
Though I don't think you turn against your team when they fail, I don't personally adopt the "family" analogy. They are a football team who you cheer for, but when they fail, you have the right to be pissed and to expect them to do what it takes to do better. If they don't win, then they fail. That's the measuring stick for success in the NFL (Family members don't exist to succeed at specific tasks, and are not (should not) be judged as such in my opinion). Not playing hard or being good guys--winning. If they were in the "Friendly, Likable Team Olympics" then I think they could be judged on those merits, but you judge your team on their ability to win and to do what it takes to win. If not, why have teams have scores at all? Make it like pre-school kids playing and don't keep score. We have scores because this is a competition between teams to win. They play to win the game, not to make the fans happy except insofar as they can win games. If you win, fans will support you. If you don't, they won't. That goes for any team in any sport, and if the millions of millions of dollars aren't incentive enough for teams to win, that alone should be. Not the hope that fans will shower them with love when they fail. If they need support for being failures, they should go elsewhere, I say.

If you really believe NFL teams are like family, then how could you ever justify getting rid of older players or failing coaches? If you only focus on success, how do you identify failures and correct for them?

How many St. Louis fans are out there focusing on the positives right now, do you think? Or Lions fans? You can't expect them to do that, because there are so few positives to take away. If your team blows it at the end when it counts, then you need to focus on why they blew it, IMO. I will always root for my team, but I'm damn sure not gonna be all sunshine and cupcakes if they make stupid decisions and play like poo.

Also, pride is a deadly sin :D
 
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Oops...sorry. I thought it was obvious. The Northstars also moved to Dallas and became the Dallas Stars.

Or were you guys joking and it went over my head?

I had no idea what you were talking about...but that happens to me a lot. :lol

I was just giving SMDM Guy some ribbing. :D :lol
 
You have a QB now. Give him some more playing time and he is going to be a good one IMO.

Yeah, the Dolphins QB looks decent. They played very well for the most part this season. The "wildcat" got old after a while, and later on some teams were able to shut it down. But I agree that QB Chad Henne has some skills, and could develop into a great QB someday. I'd stick with him and see what happens next season.

The Bills need the QB, keep your wildcat mitts out of the jar. :emperor

Don't count on getting one in the 2nd Round.

Dolphins 2nd round the last 5 years... :rolleyes:

2005 Traded Pick to PHI for QB AJ Feeley
2006 Traded Pick to MIN for QB Dante Culpepper
2007 Drafted QB John Beck
2008 Drafted QB Chad Henne
2009 Drafted QB Pat White

:banghead :duh
 
Though I don't think you turn against your team when they fail, I don't personally adopt the "family" analogy. They are a football team who you cheer for, but when they fail, you have the right to be pissed and to expect them to do what it takes to do better. If they don't win, then they fail. That's the measuring stick for success in the NFL (Family members don't exist to succeed at specific tasks, and are not (should not) be judged as such in my opinion). Not playing hard or being good guys--winning. If they were in the "Friendly, Likable Team Olympics" then I think they could be judged on those merits, but you judge your team on their ability to win and to do what it takes to win. If not, why have teams have scores at all? Make it like pre-school kids playing and don't keep score. We have scores because this is a competition between teams to win. They play to win the game, not to make the fans happy except insofar as they can win games. If you win, fans will support you. If you don't, they won't. That goes for any team in any sport, and if the millions of millions of dollars aren't incentive enough for teams to win, that alone should be. Not the hope that fans will shower them with love when they fail. If they need support for being failures, they should go elsewhere, I say.

If you really believe NFL teams are like family, then how could you ever justify getting rid of older players or failing coaches? If you only focus on success, how do you identify failures and correct for them?

How many St. Louis fans are out there focusing on the positives right now, do you think? Or Lions fans? You can't expect them to do that, because there are so few positives to take away. If your team blows it at the end when it counts, then you need to focus on why they blew it, IMO. I will always root for my team, but I'm damn sure not gonna be all sunshine and cupcakes if they make stupid decisions and play like poo.

Also, pride is a deadly sin :D

This whole attitude just seems un-necessarily mean to me. I don't see that a fan has any right to be angry when a team loses. It is not like said fan is on the field doing the painful work. The fan is sitting on their dead butt spectating.

And bringing up teams that are having big problems right now changes nothing about my opinion of a fan's right to be angry. The Rams fans are not doing anything more to share the burden on the field than the Saints' fans are. So if they are angry...it is completely without the right to be.
 
This whole attitude just seems un-necessarily mean to me. I don't see that a fan has any right to be angry when a team loses. It is not like said fan is on the field doing the painful work. The fan is sitting on their dead butt spectating.

And bringing up teams that are having big problems right now changes nothing about my opinion of a fan's right to be angry. The Rams fans are not doing anything more to share the burden on the field than the Saints' fans are. So if they are angry...it is completely without the right to be.
Well, that's fair enough, but I disagree :)

Being a fan of a loser team for so many years, I can't simply be happy with an off season. If they had a couple Superbowl wins in the last decade or so, I'm sure that it would be easier for me to share your attitude. ;)
 
A COUPLE?

Hell, i'd take one!

(and so would many other fans of teams that have not won the big one yet)

A couple?

:)
 
And just for fun..


Teams that have never won a SB

  • Buffalo Bills (0-4) consecutively 1991-1994
  • Cincinnati Bengals (0-2) 1982, 1989
  • Tennessee Titans (0-1) 2000
  • San Diego Chargers (0-1) 1995
  • Philadelphia Eagles (0-2) 1981, 2005
  • Minnesota Vikings (0-4) 1970, 1974, 1975, 1977
  • Carolina Panthers (0-1) 2004
  • Atlanta Falcons (0-1) 1999
  • Seattle Seahawks (0-1) 2006
  • Arizona Cardinals (0-1) 2009
Have never played in a Super Bowl :

  • The Cleveland Browns
  • Jacksonville Jaguars
  • Houston Texans
  • Detroit Lions
  • New Orleans Saints
 
My brother worked for the North Stars (just concession). Then he moved to Dallas. Then guess what happened.

No, what happened?:confused:

Oops...sorry. I thought it was obvious. The Northstars also moved to Dallas and became the Dallas Stars.

Well yes, obviously I know that. That's why the Stars broke my heart.

You said "Then he moved to Dallas." You're implying something happened to your brother when he moved to Dallas. Anyway, that's how I took it.:D
 
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