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What do you expect the government to do when people are blaming them for their own personal failures? :dunno

I expect them to do nothing.

Personal failures are just that, personal failures.

...and I know of no one who would say "I'm fat and it's the fault of my representatives in the government"
 
If people were responsible I would have an issue with this, but instead we have a huge problem with obesity. They eat enough to feed a family of four, then when they get so fat they want assistance. They want handicap parking, really they should be forced to park as far away as possible , the last thing they need is less exercise. They sue food places because they got fat, they get mad they can't fit in a seat and want to sue. They have been given plenty of time to have responsiblity they have failed, time to take other steps.
 
Only when drunken by kids with ADHD! :slap:lol But my point is that every time there's a proposal that challenges social mores there's always an element crying victim. And in this case all the law would do is prohibit an unhealthy amount of sugary beverage sold in single severing units. It's about the marketing of unhealthy food-stuff -- emphasis on stuff -- to, yes, adults, but especially kids. It's not about personal freedoms. The free market gave us 64oz SuperBigGulps for 89 cents marketed to children. Maybe, just maybe, it's time to curb that behavior. :dunno
So they get a 16 ounce one and refill it a dozen times. And they aren't curbing the large milkshakes that are just as bad. And you can still get Sweet Tea, which is loaded with sugar.

The whole thing doesn't make sense, so why bother?
 
So you think we should just allow it continue and wait for the magical fat fairy to visit them and make them change their ways?

I get it... you're a big government guy, I'm not.

I'm not for telling people how to behave and you are.
 
So they get a 16 ounce one and refill it a dozen times. And they aren't curbing the large milkshakes that are just as bad. And you can still get Sweet Tea, which is loaded with sugar.

The whole thing doesn't make sense, so why bother?

I agree the new law is useless. Another piece of legislation that accomplishes zero.
 
So they get a 16 ounce one and refill it a dozen times. And they aren't curbing the large milkshakes that are just as bad. And you can still get Sweet Tea, which is loaded with sugar.

The whole thing doesn't make sense, so why bother?
There has been some things saying it would include any drink that had a calorie count over x for certain size. Also says sweetened drinks so they would include sweet tea.
 
How is it about personal freedom when New Yorkers would still be free to buy as much cola as they want? :slap:cuckoo: Just because corporations wouldn't be allowed to market single severing portions larger than a healthy amount. Idiots who want to drink more than the heathy amount would still be just as free to do so as ever.
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Then why bother with it at all? It's stupid.
 
Josh,

We don't need them doing it now. I can order a 10oz or a 100oz if I want to. It's not up to the government to decide our meal portions for us. Next will be you can't buy more than a 7oz steak. The government needs LESS power.....not more.


I like getting my money's worth and I can sometimes get 3 meals out of one. For mother's day I got a steak and it was so big, I only ate a third of it. I used another third for on a breakfast pizza and the last third for supper the day after that. Just because the meals are big doesn't mean you have to eat the whole thing at once.
 
...and I know of no one who would say "I'm fat and it's the fault of my representatives in the government"

Take the blinders off and look again. Whether it's a dumb broad who takes the top off of a cup of coffee from McDonalds then speeds over a speedbump, spilling it and burning her thighs, or a child playing lasertag in the dark at a park and getting shot and killed because he aimed the gun at a cop, or moms suing McDonalds because they can't stop buying their obese kids happymeals, let alone make them exercise, or a mom who buys a kid an airsoft gun and lets him run around until he aims it at a cop and gets shot. It's happening. These people have sued and won because they're incapable of being held responsible for their actions.
 
Take the blinders off and look again. Whether it's a dumb broad who takes the top off of a cup of coffee from McDonalds then speeds over a speedbump, spilling it and burning her thighs, or a child playing lasertag in the dark at a park and getting shot and killed because he aimed the gun at a cop, or moms suing McDonalds because they can't stop buying their obese kids happymeals, let alone make them exercise, or a mom who buys a kid an airsoft gun and lets him run around until he aims it at a cop and gets shot. It's happening. These people have sued and won because they're incapable of being held responsible for their actions.

No Blinders here pal.

Just because you sue someone doesn't mean you should win. Frivolous lawsuits are no excuse for frivolous laws. Think about that a bit. Maybe your problem is with the legal system.
 
the obesity issue IS a cultural and economic problem. an american cultural problem. as a culture, we promote working our ***** off, at every waking hour, and afford ourselves 2 weeks out of the year to escape from the grind. people are extending themselves well beyond what they are healthily designed to do, due to the conveniences of our current society. we can drive to work, teleconference our meetings, ftp our files, get lunch in 10 minutes......what should realistically open up more time to say, ummmm, exercise, is being filled with longer work hours, responsibilities, and surely not sleep. and the work has gotten more sedentary with computers.

and we have a population where we have to take shortcuts to actually supply enough food for it. pesticides, hormones, gmo's, and on and on and on. deceptive marketing and an unknowing of whats actually happening where the food is being sourced makes it difficult for people to truly be healthy.

even people who THINK they are trying to be healthy are probably ingesting pesticide laden fruits and veggies, or hormone juiced meats that at some point probably end up in a cancer treatment bill.

basically, we've designed a terribly unhealthy lifestyle culture in exchange of being the wealthiest nation on the planet. as a whole, we dont value health on any level. but we complain about it. and we put it on everyone else when it's time to pay the tab.

until any of that changes, all this other stuff is just asinine. i mean, really? dont ingest that 64 oz'er of suger, but have at that aspartame......cause that hasnt been shown to be linked to very expensive illness'
 
No Blinders here pal.

Just because you sue someone doesn't mean you should win. Frivolous lawsuits are no excuse for frivolous laws. Think about that a bit. Maybe your problem is with the legal system.

People are blaming others for their own self-related issues. They sue and win and then ask the government why there hasn't been any reform. Cigarettes, alcohol and now this; obesity. Hell, you can see it with something more common like gun control. People fought and fought to get stricter regulations for gun companies and won. What has gun control done to keep firearms out of the hands of felons and other criminals who, despite not being able to walk into a store and buy them, seem to have a never ending supply?
 
the obesity issue IS a cultural and economic problem. an american cultural problem. as a culture, we promote working our ***** off, at every waking hour, and afford ourselves 2 weeks out of the year to escape from the grind. people are extending themselves well beyond what they are healthily designed to do, due to the conveniences of our current society. we can drive to work, teleconference our meetings, ftp our files, get lunch in 10 minutes......what should realistically open up more time to say, ummmm, exercise, is being filled with longer work hours, responsibilities, and surely not sleep. and the work has gotten more sedentary with computers.

and we have a population where we have to take shortcuts to actually supply enough food for it. pesticides, hormones, gmo's, and on and on and on. deceptive marketing and an unknowing of whats actually happening where the food is being sourced makes it difficult for people to truly be healthy.

even people who THINK they are trying to be healthy are probably ingesting pesticide laden fruits and veggies, or hormone juiced meats that at some point probably end up in a cancer treatment bill.

basically, we've designed a terribly unhealthy lifestyle culture in exchange of being the wealthiest nation on the planet. as a whole, we dont value health on any level. but we complain about it. and we put it on everyone else when it's time to pay the tab.

until any of that changes, all this other stuff is just asinine. i mean, really? dont ingest that 64 oz'er of suger, but have at that aspartame......cause that hasnt been shown to be linked to very expensive illness'

:clap :clap :clap :exactly: :goodpost: :clap :clap
 
People are blaming others for their own self-related issues. They sue and win and then ask the government why there hasn't been any reform. Cigarettes, alcohol and now this; obesity. Hell, you can see it with something more common like gun control. People fought and fought to get stricter regulations for gun companies and won. What has gun control done to keep firearms out of the hands of felons and other criminals who, despite not being able to walk into a store and buy them, seem to have a never ending supply?

All that and your point is what concerning outlawing extra large sodas?

I don't get your viewpoint.

You're either for or against legislating behavior. I'm against it.
 
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