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thenammagazine
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My point is simply, while I disagree with this, irresponsible, moronic citizens have forced the government to do this type of bull____.
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devilof76
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Yeah, the government needed an excuse to want to do that. 
They just need an excuse to do it, and a reasonable belief that they can get away with it. Things like this are trial balloons for much larger incursions. It won't change anything, but it acclimates people to having responsibility for these problems usurped by the government.
They just need an excuse to do it, and a reasonable belief that they can get away with it. Things like this are trial balloons for much larger incursions. It won't change anything, but it acclimates people to having responsibility for these problems usurped by the government.
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Did you even read his post?!
Yes, and it comes across as "if people just did what the government wanted then they wouldn't have to step in"......"If we were more responsible then they wouldn't have to".
The ultimate point is we are responsible for ourselves good OR bad and the government should NOT be doing this.
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No one has FORCED the government to do ANYTHING. The government has decided it knows what's best for everyone and everything.
I cannot believe how blind people are to these baby steps that lead to HUGE power grabs by government all in the name of "the greater good".
I swear some of you would be thrilled with full on commie state society and don't say these types of laws are a far cry from it because they are the baby step, beginning process towards it.
The state tells you what to eat and drink, how much of it you can have, what you can and can't pack your kids for lunch, what types of clothes they can and can't wear.....all this is happening now. Soon it will move other, bigger things. Soon it will be "That's too much house for just one person so if single you're only allowed so many sq feet".
Are people really this blind to the US moving towards a state controlled society or are they just looking forward to it?
I cannot believe how blind people are to these baby steps that lead to HUGE power grabs by government all in the name of "the greater good".
I swear some of you would be thrilled with full on commie state society and don't say these types of laws are a far cry from it because they are the baby step, beginning process towards it.
The state tells you what to eat and drink, how much of it you can have, what you can and can't pack your kids for lunch, what types of clothes they can and can't wear.....all this is happening now. Soon it will move other, bigger things. Soon it will be "That's too much house for just one person so if single you're only allowed so many sq feet".
Are people really this blind to the US moving towards a state controlled society or are they just looking forward to it?
devilof76
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People who want these kinds of interventions do not care how it will effect the people that have no need for the state's help.
It's irrelevant to them that larger servings are cheaper than getting two smaller ones. They're sure it's part of some evil corporate conspiracy to get rich on the suffering of those with no self-control. Or something. Personally, I don't understand how anyone can justify being told how much ____ing soda they can purchase in a single serving.
Is it just me, or was kindergarten a long time ago? Do people miss it that much?
It's irrelevant to them that larger servings are cheaper than getting two smaller ones. They're sure it's part of some evil corporate conspiracy to get rich on the suffering of those with no self-control. Or something. Personally, I don't understand how anyone can justify being told how much ____ing soda they can purchase in a single serving.
Is it just me, or was kindergarten a long time ago? Do people miss it that much?
thenammagazine
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This seems to be the point being ignored by the tinfoil terrorists. These irresponsible people are bullying their representatives to make changes that coddle them for their own mistakes and lack of responsibilities. Like these fools for example:
[ame]https://youtu.be/Z5tqH7UrzOw[/ame]
devilof76
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Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan looked at the Affordable Patient Care Act and said, "I don't see the problem. We're giving you a whole lot of free money."
Yeah, and they gave out a lot of free money for houses too. Can't wait to see medicine go the way of the housing market. That'll be fun.
Yeah, and they gave out a lot of free money for houses too. Can't wait to see medicine go the way of the housing market. That'll be fun.
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What gets me is how the government makes all of these laws look like it's all for "the greater good" and people swallow it hook, line and sinker. Come in with a big smile and insist you're there to help while grabbing as much power as you can and taking away as much freedom as you can a little at a time until we all wake up and say "WTF happened?"
Well......at least those of us who aren't in favor of government control being in every aspect of our lives.
Well......at least those of us who aren't in favor of government control being in every aspect of our lives.
devilof76
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So long as something is for the greater good, practicality be damned.
Who says good intentions pave the way to economic collapse? 1920's Germany? 1930's Russia? Nope. They dug it.
Who says good intentions pave the way to economic collapse? 1920's Germany? 1930's Russia? Nope. They dug it.
BadMoon
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This seems to be the point being ignored by the tinfoil terrorists. These irresponsible people are bullying their representatives to make changes that coddle them for their own mistakes and lack of responsibilities. Like these fools for example:
https://youtu.be/Z5tqH7UrzOw
Disgusting.
thenammagazine
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Yup, now if say a politician started campaigning for the cancellation of Welfare and most other public assistance programs in an effort to hold these ____ing parasites accountable for their own actions, and lifestyles, what do you think would happen?
Mesa
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More big government regulation from the liberal left that think we're too stupid to make decisions for ourselves.
Vote conservative, personal freedoms along with personal responsibility.
Vote conservative, personal freedoms along with personal responsibility.
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That's exactly what this Presidential election is really about. Everything else is on the periphery. War on women, Birth certificates, Mormonism,
Rev Wright... All nonsense.
It comes down to big government nanny state vs individual rights, responsibility for your actions and personal feedom.
Yea, personal freedom. Like interfering with two consenting adults who want to marry. What part of personal responsibility are you taking on with couples you don't know?
Or the right to tap phones without a warrant. Or the right to demand telephone companies to hand over records of its customers.
People who blame things on left or right are, well......stupid. Its both. There's plenty of good ideology from both left and right. They aren't mutually exclusive to ____ ideas. It's politicians that are the problem.
devilof76
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You know, I personally can't stand the hypocrisy of conservatives when it comes to issues like gay marriage and abortion (and don't talk about phone tapping as though it were some kind of Orwellian threat; it was dumb, but hardly endemic), but there is absolutely nothing about either of those issues that requires robbing 50% of the citizenry on a yearly basis to uphold those beliefs in a legal context.
The left actively destroys lives. They are absolutely to blame for the trend towards economic intervention and the subsequent disasters that it causes. The right has followed them down that path, but now that there is an element of the conservative party that understands the problem, there is now an alternative to the problem.
The left actively destroys lives. They are absolutely to blame for the trend towards economic intervention and the subsequent disasters that it causes. The right has followed them down that path, but now that there is an element of the conservative party that understands the problem, there is now an alternative to the problem.
Well, the bank bailout that needed to be done without question was done, pushed for, and approved under a right president, so it's not exclusive here. And not once, but twice.
There is a place for both. The biggest key is balance. I tend to lean right economically, but we've seen what happens when businesses are left to their own devices. Unlivable wages, child labor, unhealthy working conditions, dangerous products.
Point being, the right on its own is Dangerous. Much the same, the left on its own. As a whole people need to stop aligning on the fringes. Less R's and D's and more I's. Right now, people are so entrenched too their "sides" and less concerned on actually solving problems than they are holding to ideologies.
