Oh, Matt Damon

[DarthNeil]

I harbor resentment because the school system wouldn't LET ME learn.
You are wrong.
I had started out in school working hard and getting straight A's, through most of the first grade, and then one day I had all my work done, and I was exploring the classroom a bit. I was in the first grade. I saw a 7th grade reading book, and started reading it, and it was like my brain had woken up after being asleep the entire time. I was 3 times more excited about learning in school than I ever had before. I was really jazzed. An then, the "teacher" came along...and said "Put that back, we aren't reading that book". I said, I have all my work done. She says "Put it back", I say, I just want to read it. She says "Put it back", I say I don't want to get credit for it. I just want to read it." She said, "Put it back" or Put it back now" I can't recall which. So there I was with all my work done with nothing to do, and the teacher won't let me read a book to learn. (There were PLENTY of them on the shelf )Hmm... What does this mean? I pondered for a while and realized that school wasn't about learning, it was about teaching obedience to the system. At that point, I lost all respect for teachers and the school system.
My personal experience PROVES that the School System isn't about learning, and that is why I have the opinion that I do about teachers and the school system. Only after I was told flat out that I couldn't learn more by a teacher did I quit. The system and the teacher failed ME. I just decided to quit after that. I still paid attention, but I didn't care about grades anymore. You have it so wrong.
There seems to be a limit on how much learning is allowed in school.
I have no respect for that.

Teachers trying to inspire in me a sense of wonder about learning? Lies!

No, you failed yourself-- and worse than that, you proved yourself a coward.

Go back to your paints. Those of us who when faced with an INDIVIDUAL's ignorance refused to listen and pushed our right to read what we want will continue to do the heavy lifting.

You have absolutely zero idea about the truth in today's education-- about the day to day struggle that those of us who weren't spoiled with a warped sense of entitlement are fighting every day.

I expose students to Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 and push them to think for themselves. I refuse to give answers and I never accept their answers without posing more questions. I make students who have never cracked open a book WANT to read and I, for at least one hour of every day, make students forget about the cell phone in their book bag. I give a kid who never felt like they could accomplish anything the euphoria of a victory on the football field and I push that kid into the spotlight who always wanted to stay in the shadows... My Lumiere in last year's Beauty and the Beast? A grade twelve student who had never stepped foot on stage before-- it was the highlight of his 12 years and he wished he had taken part sooner. My league offensive MVP who averaged a touchdown for every three touches (which is why he sat out most games in the second half) two years ago-- well, he didn't follow his older siblings into prison... He did get an honours mark in my grade 12 English class (loving Hamlet and thrilling to Shelley's Frankenstein) and he is now going back to his second year of college-- How do I know? Because he shares his marks with me and he asks my advice... daily. Because I'm there for him. I was his teacher. His coach. And when he had to do community service for past transgressions I was the guy telling the court system that he'd work with me.

Sorry you encountered an INDIVIDUAL who was ignorant. You're the one who chose to quit. Go back to your paints and leave the heavy lifting to those of us who aren't craven. I don't pick up garbage. I don't clean pools (except my own). I'm a teacher. I don't detail cars. I make a difference.

The system is in your head.

 

[jonny88]

Dude...a girl should NOT have a thing between their legs! Did you skip health class too?!

Uh, girls do have a thing between their legs, and they use it to get what ever they want.

 

[pixletwin]

How did this thread become a psycho-analysis of black's failures and fear's sexual identity?

 

[jonny88]

How did this thread become a psycho-analysis of black's failures and fear's sexual identity?

I know it's getting out of control.

 

[thenammagazine]

How did this thread become a psycho-analysis of black's failures and fear's sexual identity?

Just goes to show you some people are incapable of posting without...

 

[jonny88]

Just goes to show you some people are incapable of posting without...

hahaha that guy looks like Mr. Read. One of my old teachers, same glasses and everything.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I harbor resentment because the school system wouldn't LET ME learn.
You are wrong.
I had started out in school working hard and getting straight A's, through most of the first grade, and then one day I had all my work done, and I was exploring the classroom a bit. I was in the first grade. I saw a 7th grade reading book, and started reading it, and it was like my brain had woken up after being asleep the entire time. I was 3 times more excited about learning in school than I ever had before. I was really jazzed. An then, the "teacher" came along...and said "Put that back, we aren't reading that book". I said, I have all my work done. She says "Put it back", I say, I just want to read it. She says "Put it back", I say I don't want to get credit for it. I just want to read it." She said, "Put it back" or Put it back now" I can't recall which. So there I was with all my work done with nothing to do, and the teacher won't let me read a book to learn. (There were PLENTY of them on the shelf )Hmm... What does this mean? I pondered for a while and realized that school wasn't about learning, it was about teaching obedience to the system. At that point, I lost all respect for teachers and the school system.
My personal experience PROVES that the School System isn't about learning, and that is why I have the opinion that I do about teachers and the school system. Only after I was told flat out that I couldn't learn more by a teacher did I quit. The system and the teacher failed ME. I just decided to quit after that. I still paid attention, but I didn't care about grades anymore. You have it so wrong.
There seems to be a limit on how much learning is allowed in school.
I have no respect for that.

Teachers trying to inspire in me a sense of wonder about learning? Lies!

so instead of just going to the local library and checking the book out on your own, you just took your ball and went home

 

[Blackthornone]

so instead of just going to the local library and checking the book out on your own, you just took your ball and went home

It was a special reading workbook for schools that libraries don't carry. I suppose I could have looking in the phone book for the nearest distributor that stocked such special books that are sold directly to schools, but I was too busy being disillusioned at that point. Instead, I sought out other like books on my own. I kept learning, just not through school.

 

[Blackthornone]

Straight A's in first grade basically means knowing to raise your hand to go to the bathroom instead of crapping your desk.

Not in my school it didn't. The nun who ran the class kept things in order, and everyone was doing their math, reading, writing assignments constantly. It was so quiet you could hear a pin drop in that room. That was a different school than the one I changed to when I moved where I was denied learning.

 

[Blackthornone]

No, you failed yourself-- and worse than that, you proved yourself a coward.

Go back to your paints. Those of us who when faced with an INDIVIDUAL's ignorance refused to listen and pushed our right to read what we want will continue to do the heavy lifting.

You have absolutely zero idea about the truth in today's education-- about the day to day struggle that those of us who weren't spoiled with a warped sense of entitlement are fighting every day.

I expose students to Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 and push them to think for themselves. I refuse to give answers and I never accept their answers without posing more questions. I make students who have never cracked open a book WANT to read and I, for at least one hour of every day, make students forget about the cell phone in their book bag. I give a kid who never felt like they could accomplish anything the euphoria of a victory on the football field and I push that kid into the spotlight who always wanted to stay in the shadows... My Lumiere in last year's Beauty and the Beast? A grade twelve student who had never stepped foot on stage before-- it was the highlight of his 12 years and he wished he had taken part sooner. My league offensive MVP who averaged a touchdown for every three touches (which is why he sat out most games in the second half) two years ago-- well, he didn't follow his older siblings into prison... He did get an honours mark in my grade 12 English class (loving Hamlet and thrilling to Shelley's Frankenstein) and he is now going back to his second year of college-- How do I know? Because he shares his marks with me and he asks my advice... daily. Because I'm there for him. I was his teacher. His coach. And when he had to do community service for past transgressions I was the guy telling the court system that he'd work with me.

Sorry you encountered an INDIVIDUAL who was ignorant. You're the one who chose to quit. Go back to your paints and leave the heavy lifting to those of us who aren't craven. I don't pick up garbage. I don't clean pools (except my own). I'm a teacher. I don't detail cars. I make a difference.

The system is in your head.

There was also the time in the 7th grade when I invented a way to do multiplication problems in my head, and after I explained it to the teacher, who was intrigued, she said I couldn't use it in her class even though it worked. So much for learning, AGAIN.

 

[The Josh]

In other words your making excuses. My sister had a second grade teacher that took a refrigerator box and wrapped it around her desk, because my sister was a chatter box as a kid. The teacher would would put sad faces on her papers and was just downright cruel to her. Then in high school she had a teacher who told her she probably didn't need to go to college since she would struggle so much. Well, both those ladies were wrong! She not only graduated college but kept at it through working a job she was ready to move on from until she started working the state government. In the end my sister used those two idiots as motivation and the positive reinforcement from the good teachers she had and succeeded. Unlike you she isn't making excuses and realizes that one or two bad teachers doesn't mean the system is totally ____.

 

[jonny88]

Don't even let that guy get a rise out of you, he must be a troll or something. I have never heard anyone talk about the school system or have world views like he does. None of them make sense.

 

[DarthNeil]

There was also the time in the 7th grade when I invented a way to do multiplication problems in my head, and after I explained it to the teacher, who was intrigued, she said I couldn't use it in her class even though it worked. So much for learning, AGAIN.

There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist.

Ayn Rand

 

[thenammagazine]

Not in my school it didn't. The nun who ran the class kept things in order, and everyone was doing their math, reading, writing assignments constantly. It was so quiet you could hear a pin drop in that room. That was a different school than the one I changed to when I moved where I was denied learning.

Oh, yo poor thing.

 

[ShadowX81]

There was also the time in the 7th grade when I invented a way to do multiplication problems in my head, and after I explained it to the teacher, who was intrigued, she said I couldn't use it in her class even though it worked. So much for learning, AGAIN.

Actually I can relate to this one. Back in middle school and high school math I could often solve the problems in my head, but was annoyed that the teachers told me I had to write out the work longhand if I wanted credit for the assignment. A few of them even accused me of cheating for this reason.

Unlike you however, I sucked it up and did the work anyway; since my desire to pass the class and get into a good college outwieghed my desire to stick it to my teachers.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Actually I can relate to this one. Back in middle school and high school math I could often solve the problems in my head, but was annoyed that the teachers told me I had to write out the work longhand if I wanted credit for the assignment. A few teachers even accused me of cheating for this reason.

Unlike you however, I sucked it up and did the work anyway; since my desire to pass and get into a good college outwieghed my desire to "show up" my teachers.

I did this in college

 

[Blackthornone]

There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist.

Ayn Rand

Ayn Rand was a smoker. Smoking is an extremely stupid thing to do, so she may have intellect, but she lacks intelligence. "Intellect asks what is possible. Intelligence asks what is appropriate" Dr. Helen Caldicott, founder, physicians for social responsibility.

It wasn't a case of cowardice. It was a case of me wanting a certain kind of life having certain goals and knowing that the public school system could not possibly take me there. As such, it would have been stupid of me to put effort into something that could never bear fruit for me. For other people, who need degrees like doctors and lawyers, of course school is needed to get you there and it is stupid not to preform in those cases. It all depends upon what sort of life you want.

Benjamin Franklin noted in his autobiography that he spent a lot of time reading a library of books that he had access to just because books were rare and he wanted to take advantage of that opportunity. He said that he realized later that it would have been better for him had he spent the same time on learning things that would actually be useful for the kind of life he wanted to have, instead of reading for it's own sake, without real purpose.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Ayn Rand was a smoker. Smoking is an extremely stupid thing to do, so she may have intellect, but she lacks intelligence. "Intellect asks what is possible. Intelligence asks what is appropriate" Dr. Helen Caldicott, founder, physicians for social responsibility.

 

[jonny88]

Ayn Rand was a smoker. Smoking is an extremely stupid thing to do, so she may have intellect, but she lacks intelligence. "Intellect asks what is possible. Intelligence asks what is appropriate" Dr. Helen Caldicott, founder, physicians for social responsibility.

LOL. l agree smoking is stupid, but it doesnt mean you have no intelligence. You made me laugh again, thanks for that.

Didn't think religious cults allowed their members to have computers, but it makes sense because with that tool you can spread your twisted views to the world. thanks again for another laugh.

 

[pixletwin]

A person who smokes perhaps lacks some wisdom but it certainly doesn't effect intelligence that I have observed.