PC Gaming

[Kai]

Not sure if this has been talked about but, are those all in one computers upgradable? I don't game as much but, I do need a new pc. I have an outdated gaming rig I built a long time ago and was looking into those all in ones due to their simple setups. I'm not familiar with the technology but, does it have the standard desktop type hardware? Or is it more of a laptop type setup (ram, hd, gpu, etc).

 

[darthviper107]

Probably very limited. Stuff like that gets its own custom parts since it's designed to be compact. Like for instance I doubt the GPU can be swapped out with anything.

 

[Solidus]

Not sure if this has been talked about but, are those all in one computers upgradable? I don't game as much but, I do need a new pc. I have an outdated gaming rig I built a long time ago and was looking into those all in ones due to their simple setups. I'm not familiar with the technology but, does it have the standard desktop type hardware? Or is it more of a laptop type setup (ram, hd, gpu, etc).

At most, you might be able to upgrade the ram, and change the hard drive. Most likely, the processor and gpu will be soldered on to the motherboard. All-in-one PCs weren't designed to be opened or customized by the user. So, you have to take note, that opening one might void you warranty.

 

[Solidus]

Thanks!
If you're interested I could send you the completed Blood Omen OST.

That would be incredible. Keep me posted! Are you planning on uploading any of it to YouTube?

 

[Kai]

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Yea I figured that's how they were set up. After looking for some info, it looks like Maingear has a model that supports desktop hardware while being upgradable and also MSI seems to be looking at manufacturing similar models. I'm not sure what their prices are though. It would be nice if they sold just the chassis and let us build our own rig but I doubt they'd do that.

 

[Solidus]

I'm actually tempted to buy an all-in-one PC. I saw one on HSN a few weeks ago, and it included a really sleek-looking , touchscreen 1080p monitor with all of the PC hardware built-in. It had an i3 processor, though . But, it's not like I would use something like that for gaming or Autodesk, anyway.

 

[ChunkyZergling]

I also suck **** for WOW game cards. PM me.

 

[Solidus]

Your life sucks (no pun intended) .

 

[Duck]

I also suck **** for WOW game cards. PM me.

Was this even necessary to say?

 

[Solidus]

Was this even necessary to say?

Just add him to your ignore list. I think half of the forum has done it already.

Anyway, did any of you see that YouTube video from Tek Syndicate, that claims that the AMD 8350 outperforms all of the overclocked Ivy Bridge i5 and i7 chips in gaming?

Something does seem enormously wrong with the results, especially since it contradicts all of the known benchmarks on the net. I'm not a fan of either AMD or Intel, so it's really hilarious reading through the juvenile flame discussions on that video.

[ame]https://youtu.be/eu8Sekdb-IE[/ame]

 

[darthviper107]

Processor doesn't effect gaming much, there's hardly any difference between processors if they have the same GPU.

As far as AMD vs. Intel. It seems like AMD has almost given up, they don't even compete at the higher level, and for laptops Intel has a major advantage since the integrated GPU is so useful for mobile computers.

 

[Solidus]

Processor doesn't effect gaming much, there's hardly any difference between processors if they have the same GPU.

As far as AMD vs. Intel. It seems like AMD has almost given up, they don't even compete at the higher level, and for laptops Intel has a major advantage since the integrated GPU is so useful for mobile computers.

On that note, I've actually been meaning to ask you: what are the immediate benefits of overclocking (in gaming and other applications)? If I get liquid cooling for my 3570K and overclock it to 4.8 Ghz, will I actually see a vast improvement in frames-per-second? Or, will I just be wasting my money on cooling (and higher electric bills)?

I was behind on PC news for a few years, and was really shocked to hear about AMD's lackluster performance several weeks ago. But, I read that their future generations of chips will still implement AM3+ motherboards into the foreseeable future. I guess that's a good thing for those on AMD, who want long upgrade path.

 

[darthviper107]

It's not worth it for gaming, unless it's doing something like PhysX calculations on the CPU (that'd be if you don't have an Nvidia GPU). Having a faster processor would be good for something like video processing (say your editing video) or converting audio files. Or in my case, rendering in 3ds Max where Mental Ray only uses the CPU for rendering.

Check out this:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3970x-sandy-bridge-e-benchmark,3348-12.html

Between the Intel processors there's hardly any difference between a 3570k and the 3970x.

 

[Solidus]

Thanks for the explanation! That's pretty interesting that the i5 and i7 have similar performance in gaming.

 

[darthviper107]

Though you can see a pretty big difference from Intel vs. AMD

 

[Drakul]

That would be incredible. Keep me posted! Are you planning on uploading any of it to YouTube?

Shoot me a PM with an email of yours and I'll send you the zip file with wetransfer.

 

[Solidus]

Well, I'm finally on my new PC build. Everything worked out perfectly, except that I need to buy a new power supply now. I thought that my six-year-old Ultra 550 Watt PSU (with Crossfire and SLI compatibility) would work, but it only has 16 amps on the 12 volt rail. That's not even enough to power my crappy graphics card .

I didn't even know about this 12 volt required amperage shenanigans until last night. Can't say that I'm annoyed, though. I feel like I'm learning something new everyday as a result of building my own computer .

 

[Vader AL]

Well, I'm finally on my new PC build. Everything worked out perfectly, except that I need buy a new power supply now. I thought that my six-year-old Ultra 550 Watt PSU (with Crossfire and SLI compatibility) would work, but it only has 16 amps on the 12 volt rail. That's not even enough to power my crappy graphics card .

I didn't even know about this 12 volt required amperage shenanigans until last night. Can't say that I'm annoyed, though. I feel like I'm learning something new everyday as a result of building my own computer .

Yes I know the feeling. Just went through that and learned a ton...still learning too. good times..good times.

 

[Solidus]

On another note, I've just noticed a smell coming out from my desktop. It's not a burning smell, but a fresh "factory smell" - like when you open up packages for the first time. I'm getting a big wiff of it now from my exhaust fans. Does anyone know if there's a cause for concern?

 

[FQRizzo]

Could it be Ozone? Usually emanates from electronics.

Ozone is actually bad for you, though I'd imagine the concentration isn't enough to cause harm.