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I will buy the Blu because I really liked this movie and I would be onboard for another adventure
Pirates of the Caribbean 5: Dead Men Tell No Tales July 7, 2017
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Ditto. Probably more than one copy, just to have it. Love POTC. Was looking my new XD Davy Jones over (awesome fig for the price) and thought again the amazing characters in these films. I wish I had a Tia Dalma fig.
I thought this movie was the perfect swan song for the series so I guess I'll hold off on buying the blu-ray, lol.
I would say Will, Elizabeth and Barbossa have had their characters neatly completed by the end of 5, but if this was the last of Jack, it's pretty weak to me. I'd like at least a 6th that focuses on a proper send off for Jack.
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Yep I agree. Jack needs a sense of closure to his story. Regardless I liked 5 a lot and do hope for one more adventure.
I was happy with where they left Jack. At the beginning of COTBP Jack had no ship, no crew and very little self worth or purpose (his crew had mutinied against him and left him for dead). At the end of DMTNT Jack had the pearl, he had a crew who were his friends and he was sailing the seas again living the pirate life so yeh I'm happy with that. What better 'end' could they give to Jack than have him sailing off in the sunset to have many more adventures?
My problem is not the last 5 minutes of Sparrow at the end, but the prior 2 hours. This film had Jack hit rock bottom, which is fine, in long running series every heroe does at some point. My issue is that we didn't see him bounce back from it beyond conveniently getting back everything at the last second, and that end is no different than Curse's ending really and we all know that happy ending didn't last. I want the last movie to give us the Jack Sparrow of legend at the helm of the Pearl, reclaiming his glory.
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DMTNT is great, counting down the days til I own the blu, but i'm with MF. Another film is needed for a proper Jack send-off.
Ok ok haha you don't need to persuade me I am up for more movies
I wasn't really impressed at all with this film. Pirates are cool enough, we don't always need ridiculous supernatural elements. I feel like the first movie did a great job balancing the two. The rest of the films are just rinse and repeat as far as the villains and a lot of the story elements go. Jack sparrow as a character is better than the movies themselves.
I would say that even Dead Man's Chest maintained a good balance of the real and supernatural. While Jones and crew may be sea creature hybrids, their behavior allows you to take them as seriously as Barbossas crew.
At World's End is where the supernatural went too far. Pirates 4 was a bit too Indiana Jones for a film about Pirates. I would say that while Pirates 5 may have retread past waters, in doing so, kept it along the lines of Curse and DMC, maybe a bit more supernatural though with both undead pirates and the mythical trident, where in Curse, the mythology was one thing, cursed treasure and those afflicted with the curse.
While the thread is still active, there is one thing about Dead Men Tell No Tales that has bugged me a bit since I first saw the movie back in May. It will sound like I’m complaining/criticizing, but that’s not my intention – just thought it was worth bringing up since I haven’t seen it discussed here before.
One major element that separates DMTNT from both CotBP and DMC is that both those first two installments were very specific about how the curses over their respective villains worked – Barbossa and his crew were cursed for removing the Aztec gold and Davy Jones and his crew were cursed for abandoning their duties charged to them by Calypso. In DMTNT, we never really get a specific explanation as to why Salazar and his crew were cursed. During the flashback sequence, it almost looked like there was some sort of magical energy that exploded and destroyed the Silent Mary. However, I later read, and noticed on my second viewing, that it was actually the gunpowder aboard the ship that ignited when it hit the reefs in the Devil’s Triangle. If Salazar and his crew died during the accident and gunpowder is merely what caused the explosion, then what did resurrect them from the dead? Maybe I'm overthinking it...
Either way, it doesn’t subtract from my ability to enjoy the film and, for me, it's still the best of 2017.
One major element that separates DMTNT from both CotBP and DMC is that both those first two installments were very specific about how the curses over their respective villains worked – Barbossa and his crew were cursed for removing the Aztec gold and Davy Jones and his crew were cursed for abandoning their duties charged to them by Calypso. In DMTNT, we never really get a specific explanation as to why Salazar and his crew were cursed. During the flashback sequence, it almost looked like there was some sort of magical energy that exploded and destroyed the Silent Mary. However, I later read, and noticed on my second viewing, that it was actually the gunpowder aboard the ship that ignited when it hit the reefs in the Devil’s Triangle. If Salazar and his crew died during the accident and gunpowder is merely what caused the explosion, then what did resurrect them from the dead? Maybe I'm overthinking it...
Either way, it doesn’t subtract from my ability to enjoy the film and, for me, it's still the best of 2017.
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Devils Triangle =Bermuda Triangle is what I got out of it.
And I think it's just a typical ghost story. Think of other ghost movies you've seen, they always have that... "unfinished business...so the dead wander for eternity until it's fulfilled" Thing going on. The devils triangle is just one of those cursed places that amplifies it.
It would have been neat if they made it out to be one of a few gateways to Davy Jones locker. That way when it collapses and Salazar is able to leave, they could also use it as a reason Davy could get out of the locker. Since the gateway would be open now...All thanks to Jack. I think it's fitting
All things considered I hope in the next movie when Davy is asked how he got out of the locker he just cocks an eyebrow and responds "it's my locker...how the hell would I not know how to get out"
It's a fair point, the movie basically acts like Salazaar's rage was so powerful that he and his crew remained as the undead to one day exact revenge, which is a little lame when, as you said, the other movies explain such things clearly. I will say the movie does a pretty good job of entertaining you to the point of not caring.
Who needs blu-rays anymore when all the extras are online?
I can’t wait to pick up the Blu Ray, I’ve watched the digital like 3 times over the past few weeks. I have to say, after shedding my expectation of how Jack should be depicted and all, I’ve come to really like this movie for what it is, I’d put it in a tie with AWE for 3rd favorite with a little edge in favor of this movie due to some of the crazy plot aspects of AWE, a movie saved heavily by the maelstrom sequence.
This movie has a nice mix of the darker tone of Curse mixed with the fun of DMC.
This movie has a nice mix of the darker tone of Curse mixed with the fun of DMC.
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