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The answer to that one is obvious - it's why we're ALL here posting
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The answer to that one is obvious - it's why we're ALL here posting
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I prefer the term crazy, professionalism is something I'm rarely accused of but I like the sound of it and appreciate it lol...
Also, I'll echo the sentiment that nobody here is out to ruin anybodies excitement. I have often tried to encourage others to post more positive thoughts and I've always tried to weigh them up with the bad bits in my own posts. Indeed despite everything (of which there really is so much wrong with this between the head sculpts, price and now the decals etc) I am still torn about ordering myself, this is why we hang around. Not to be d*cks, but because we're all fans here, I guess we are clutching at straws as we know nothing is changing, but our time is just as valuable as money ultimately. I don't really complain much in other topics, the P2 is my thing and it's sad to see something that is so close, yet so far. If the criticism is seriously going to impact your enjoyment for this, it may be wise to stay away from the thread as it is going to contain a lot of it and deservedly so for the most part unfortunately. Or again, shout about the positive stuff if it is being buried. We're all just fans chatting on a forum here.
I prefer the term crazy, professionalism is something I'm rarely accused of but I like the sound of it and appreciate it lol...
Also, I'll echo the sentiment that nobody here is out to ruin anybodies excitement. I have often tried to encourage others to post more positive thoughts and I've always tried to weigh them up with the bad bits in my own posts. Indeed despite everything (of which there really is so much wrong with this between the head sculpts, price and now the decals etc) I am still torn about ordering myself, this is why we hang around. Not to be d*cks, but because we're all fans here, I guess we are clutching at straws as we know nothing is changing, but our time is just as valuable as money ultimately. I don't really complain much in other topics, the P2 is my thing and it's sad to see something that is so close, yet so far. If the criticism is seriously going to impact your enjoyment for this, it may be wise to stay away from the thread as it is going to contain a lot of it and deservedly so for the most part unfortunately. Or again, shout about the positive stuff if it is being buried. We're all just fans chatting on a forum here.
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Hey guys I've been thinking about this piece and all of the inaccuracies it has to the movie Predator and suddenly realized that it suppose to have these inaccuracies, and that is why even after they took it off the website and brought it back why it still looks the same. After all it is being sold as a "maquette" which is, by its definition, a rough draft of the final product-a vision if you will of what the character would eventually look like but not necessary the completed version of what you will see on screen hence...a maquette. Perhaps that is why by intention and not error that the biomask, the dreds,the spear, THE QUILLS, and other things are not movie screen accurate on this piece. I think that that is what separates a maquette from a Premium Format statue. With that being said, Sideshow should change their advertised description wording to better represent what this piece really is a "maquette" and not a faithful recreation of what we saw on screen. That small wording would serve as a disclaimer for all collectors to understand what they are purchasing but most importantly give everyone different expectation of the product. Below is a the definition of a maquette perhaps after reading it may make the apprehensive purchaser of this piece more acceptance of its appearance, and instead of criticizing it enjoy it's inaccurate flaws as it is maquette of the Predator 2 character and not a true representation of the movie screen Predator character.
Maquette
This article is about models of sculptures. For models of buildings see Architectural model.
Jean-Baptiste Carpeaux' maquette for the fountain he donated to Valenciennes
A maquette (French word for scale model, sometimes referred to by the Italian names plastico or modello) is a small scale model or rough draft of an unfinished sculpture. An equivalent term is bozzetto, from the Italian word that means "sketch".
It is used to visualize and test shapes and ideas without incurring the cost and effort of producing a full-scale product. It is the analogue of the painter's cartoon, modello, oil sketch or drawn sketch. For commissioned sculptures, especially monumental public sculptures, a maquette may be used to show the client how the finished work will fit in the proposed site. The term may also refer to a prototype for a video game, film, or any other type of media. Modello, unlike the other terms, is also used for sketches for two-dimensional works such as paintings. Like oil sketches, these works in progress can be at least as much sought after as completed works by highly regarded artists, showing the process of developing an idea. Gian Lorenzo Bernini, a sculptor from the Baroque period, made his bozzetti from wax or baked terracotta to show his patrons how the final piece was intended to look. Eleven of these bozzetti were displayed in an exhibition at the Art Institute of Chicago in 2004.[1] Some museums specialize in collections of maquettes, such as the Museo dei Bozzetti in Pietrasanta, Italy.
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Hey guys I've been thinking about this piece and all of the inaccuracies it has to the movie Predator and suddenly realized that it suppose to have these inaccuracies, and that is why even after they took it off the website and brought it back why it still looks the same. After all it is being sold as a "maquette" which is, by its definition, a rough draft of the final product-a vision if you will of what the character would eventually look like but not necessary the completed version of what you will see on screen hence...a maquette. Perhaps that is why by intention and not error that the biomask, the dreds,the spear, THE QUILLS, and other things are not movie screen accurate on this piece. I think that that is what separates a maquette from a Premium Format statue. With that being said, Sideshow should change their advertised description wording to better represent what this piece really is a "maquette" and not a faithful recreation of what we saw on screen. That small wording would serve as a disclaimer for all collectors to understand what they are purchasing but most importantly give everyone different expectation of the product. Below is a the definition of a maquette perhaps after reading it may make the apprehensive purchaser of this piece more acceptance of its appearance, and instead of criticizing it enjoy it's inaccurate flaws as it is maquette of the Predator 2 character and not a true representation of the movie screen Predator character.
Maquette
This article is about models of sculptures. For models of buildings see Architectural model.
Jean-Baptiste Carpeaux' maquette for the fountain he donated to Valenciennes
A maquette (French word for scale model, sometimes referred to by the Italian names plastico or modello) is a small scale model or rough draft of an unfinished sculpture. An equivalent term is bozzetto, from the Italian word that means "sketch".
It is used to visualize and test shapes and ideas without incurring the cost and effort of producing a full-scale product. It is the analogue of the painter's cartoon, modello, oil sketch or drawn sketch. For commissioned sculptures, especially monumental public sculptures, a maquette may be used to show the client how the finished work will fit in the proposed site. The term may also refer to a prototype for a video game, film, or any other type of media. Modello, unlike the other terms, is also used for sketches for two-dimensional works such as paintings. Like oil sketches, these works in progress can be at least as much sought after as completed works by highly regarded artists, showing the process of developing an idea. Gian Lorenzo Bernini, a sculptor from the Baroque period, made his bozzetti from wax or baked terracotta to show his patrons how the final piece was intended to look. Eleven of these bozzetti were displayed in an exhibition at the Art Institute of Chicago in 2004.[1] Some museums specialize in collections of maquettes, such as the Museo dei Bozzetti in Pietrasanta, Italy.
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ermmmmmmm - Lemmy think - ermmmmmm - NO.
I don't care WHAT they call it - I buy (or don't) based on how something looks (or functions) - not because of some arbitrary label.
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ermmmmmmm - Lemmy think - ermmmmmm - NO.
I don't care WHAT they call it - I buy (or don't) based on how something looks (or functions) - not because of some arbitrary label.
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Well if it's the look you want and I'm assuming you want true accuracy then a maquette piece is not for you. Labeling would at least give you a heads up that that piece is not what you want right away as it is a maquette and therefore not a true representation of what your looking for. That would then allow you to move on from forum discussing things about a product that is not going to change because well...it is by its original design suppose to be that way.
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Well if it's the look you want and I'm assuming you want true accuracy then a maquette piece is not for you. Labeling would at least give you a heads up that that piece is not what you want right away as it is a maquette and therefore not a true representation of what your looking for. That would then allow you to move on from forum discussing things about a product that is not going to change because well...it is by its original design suppose to be that way.
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This piece did sell out right away when the ES was 200. It was wait listed and a few of the predator professional had it order.
It was due to the BS cancellation and the raise of ES and when many realized that they were not in fact going to fix the issues that the new preorder didn't sell out.
I understand what your saying but you could never spoil my excitement. Im not a "Predator Professional" but I love my little collection.
I would love to see the "Predator Professionals" collections because I would assume that they will have nothing in it, because every predator statue made has a flaw or two.
It's all based on what you can deal with for the money you spend.
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This piece did sell out right away when the ES was 200. It was wait listed and a few of the predator professional had it order.
It was due to the BS cancellation and the raise of ES and when many realized that they were not in fact going to fix the issues that the new preorder didn't sell out.
I understand what your saying but you could never spoil my excitement. Im not a "Predator Professional" but I love my little collection.
I would love to see the "Predator Professionals" collections because I would assume that they will have nothing in it, because every predator statue made has a flaw or two.
It's all based on what you can deal with for the money you spend.
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While I would never use that silly term, I'll assume I'm included here and simply say that nobody, me included really expects perfection. I have lots of Predator pieces, none are perfect but I love many of them. As for this being a maquette, you're right about what a maquette is Max, but Sideshow seen to use the term in a different manner. Also, the guy behind the project actually wanted to make changes to make it a bit more movie like so it isn't intentionally altered from the character seen on screen.
While I would never use that silly term, I'll assume I'm included here and simply say that nobody, me included really expects perfection. I have lots of Predator pieces, none are perfect but I love many of them. As for this being a maquette, you're right about what a maquette is Max, but Sideshow seen to use the term in a different manner. Also, the guy behind the project actually wanted to make changes to make it a bit more movie like so it isn't intentionally altered from the character seen on screen.
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I just want to see the damn thing in hand already. Everything that can be said about this piece has been said over, and over, and over, and over...
I just want to see the damn thing in hand already. Everything that can be said about this piece has been said over, and over, and over, and over...
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Let's review the meaning of maquette again, shall we? If laziness is in fact a factor in this whole thing, I would say it's Sideshow's laziness to describe the item incorrectly and contradictory to what maquette means as a way to probably hype up the product. Other than that it's a maquette with intentional inaccuracies and all.
Maquette
This article is about models of sculptures. For models of buildings see Architectural model.
Jean-Baptiste Carpeaux' maquette for the fountain he donated to Valenciennes
A maquette (French word for scale model, sometimes referred to by the Italian names plastico or modello) is a small scale model or rough draft of an unfinished sculpture. An equivalent term is bozzetto, from the Italian word that means "sketch".
It is used to visualize and test shapes and ideas without incurring the cost and effort of producing a full-scale product. It is the analogue of the painter's cartoon, modello, oil sketch or drawn sketch. For commissioned sculptures, especially monumental public sculptures, a maquette may be used to show the client how the finished work will fit in the proposed site. The term may also refer to a prototype for a video game, film, or any other type of media. Modello, unlike the other terms, is also used for sketches for two-dimensional works such as paintings. Like oil sketches, these works in progress can be at least as much sought after as completed works by highly regarded artists, showing the process of developing an idea. Gian Lorenzo Bernini, a sculptor from the Baroque period, made his bozzetti from wax or baked terracotta to show his patrons how the final piece was intended to look. Eleven of these bozzetti were displayed in an exhibition at the Art Institute of Chicago in 2004.[1] Some museums specialize in collections of maquettes, such as the Museo dei Bozzetti in Pietrasanta, Italy.
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Let's review the meaning of maquette again, shall we? If laziness is in fact a factor in this whole thing, I would say it's Sideshow's laziness to describe the item incorrectly and contradictory to what maquette means as a way to probably hype up the product. Other than that it's a maquette with intentional inaccuracies and all.
Maquette
This article is about models of sculptures. For models of buildings see Architectural model.
Jean-Baptiste Carpeaux' maquette for the fountain he donated to Valenciennes
A maquette (French word for scale model, sometimes referred to by the Italian names plastico or modello) is a small scale model or rough draft of an unfinished sculpture. An equivalent term is bozzetto, from the Italian word that means "sketch".
It is used to visualize and test shapes and ideas without incurring the cost and effort of producing a full-scale product. It is the analogue of the painter's cartoon, modello, oil sketch or drawn sketch. For commissioned sculptures, especially monumental public sculptures, a maquette may be used to show the client how the finished work will fit in the proposed site. The term may also refer to a prototype for a video game, film, or any other type of media. Modello, unlike the other terms, is also used for sketches for two-dimensional works such as paintings. Like oil sketches, these works in progress can be at least as much sought after as completed works by highly regarded artists, showing the process of developing an idea. Gian Lorenzo Bernini, a sculptor from the Baroque period, made his bozzetti from wax or baked terracotta to show his patrons how the final piece was intended to look. Eleven of these bozzetti were displayed in an exhibition at the Art Institute of Chicago in 2004.[1] Some museums specialize in collections of maquettes, such as the Museo dei Bozzetti in Pietrasanta, Italy.
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Explain all the other maquettes SS has released then, such as the P1.
Explain all the other maquettes SS has released then, such as the P1.
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Interesting,Python, if that the case I stand corrected and they messed it up and used the maquette moniker as way to scape goat to justify what they couldn't do right, I guess.
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Interesting,Python, if that the case I stand corrected and they messed it up and used the maquette moniker as way to scape goat to justify what they couldn't do right, I guess.
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I'm not sure what they use the term maquette for, many of them could just be termed PF, I think they meant it to indicate a step up in some cases, they do tend to cost more. The SWS P1 maquette was a 1/4 mixed media piece, so essentially a PF, but if you saw it in person, it doesn't really compare to any other PF, it is way beyond. They certainly don't use the term in the same manner as the movie industry does, I.E a statue made to visualise a potential character. Interestingly, the Prometheus engineer was released as a maquette, but later renamed to statue. Sauron was an LSF I believe, but was renamed to maquette, It appears to be quite random.
I'm not sure what they use the term maquette for, many of them could just be termed PF, I think they meant it to indicate a step up in some cases, they do tend to cost more. The SWS P1 maquette was a 1/4 mixed media piece, so essentially a PF, but if you saw it in person, it doesn't really compare to any other PF, it is way beyond. They certainly don't use the term in the same manner as the movie industry does, I.E a statue made to visualise a potential character. Interestingly, the Prometheus engineer was released as a maquette, but later renamed to statue. Sauron was an LSF I believe, but was renamed to maquette, It appears to be quite random.
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That's before my time before I knew of this hobby, sorry. Now I know the hulk was a maquette and it was explained that it was a maquette and the maquette moniker was explained as a preproduction model of what was done on screen. SSC's Hulk maquette had its movie inaccuracies too but it was pretty close to the maquette shown on a promotional video with the actor who played David Banner. So again, a maquette is not suppose to be movie accurate unless the actual screen used character resembles its maquette. My guess??
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That's before my time before I knew of this hobby, sorry. Now I know the hulk was a maquette and it was explained that it was a maquette and the maquette moniker was explained as a preproduction model of what was done on screen. SSC's Hulk maquette had its movie inaccuracies too but it was pretty close to the maquette shown on a promotional video with the actor who played David Banner. So again, a maquette is not suppose to be movie accurate unless the actual screen used character resembles its maquette. My guess??
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I am by no means trying to start crap. I'm kinda like some of the other guys who say I just want to see it in hand.
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I am by no means trying to start crap. I'm kinda like some of the other guys who say I just want to see it in hand.
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Yeah me too! I just wanted to bring a little positivity to this piece as I wait for it to be shipped to me. Still highly excited about it as it is my first Predator piece and I like the size 28.5 inches wow!
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Yeah me too! I just wanted to bring a little positivity to this piece as I wait for it to be shipped to me. Still highly excited about it as it is my first Predator piece and I like the size 28.5 inches wow!
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We all do, there isn't much else to talk about Predator wise from Sideshow of late which is probably why we keep going around in circles here. This is the big one anyway and the one we've all really wanted for so long. At least we had a decent masked P1 LSB recently, that turned out good. The sculpt is quite artistic, but I love mine, never expect perfection..
We all do, there isn't much else to talk about Predator wise from Sideshow of late which is probably why we keep going around in circles here. This is the big one anyway and the one we've all really wanted for so long. At least we had a decent masked P1 LSB recently, that turned out good. The sculpt is quite artistic, but I love mine, never expect perfection..
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Let's throw a couple of gameshows into the equation.
1) Sideshow's approach to classifying statues.
2) The (rather relevant) music some people should listen to if they decide to trust those classifications.
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Let's throw a couple of gameshows into the equation.
1) Sideshow's approach to classifying statues.
2) The (rather relevant) music some people should listen to if they decide to trust those classifications.
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The term 'Maquette' means it will be an inaccurate representation of the creature we saw onscreen?!
I've heard it all now!
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The term 'Maquette' means it will be an inaccurate representation of the creature we saw onscreen?!
I've heard it all now!
Directly from Sideshow...
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