Predator 5 - Prey (2022)

[Khev]

She did get the better of that one guy from her tribe who was supposed to bring her back. He was very skinny, but I am sure he still outweighed her. Thought he should have been able to control her. But not an issue at all for me as I liked her character alot.

I noticed that but I was fine reading that scene as keeping with the film's theme of people underestimating her and therefore not giving their best when fighting her. And even though she did seem to get the best of him during their scuffle he still cold-cocked her to the face and tied her up so her victory was pretty short-lived, lol.

Not woke at all. Very good movie. 3.5 out of 5 easy.

 

[Khev]

Ya know.. Its just great to come to this board excited about a film instead of being frustrated or angry about one.

The Batman, Top Gun: Maverick, The Terminal List, Prey. Lots to enjoy on both big and small screens this year.

 

[Heavy Metal Spike]

Seriously - unlike certain other areas of the internetz, there are plenty of us on this (and other) forums that will call out the woke stupidity that has invaded various franchises over the last few years.

However - anyone that claims THIS (in ANY shape or form) is "woke", is being disingenuous or hasn't watched the movie.

This was realistic, understandable and believable . . . any problems you have with "representation" are down to your OWN insecurities and/or BS.


.

 

[JAWS]

The Batman, Top Gun: Maverick, The Terminal List, Prey. Lots to enjoy on both big and small screens this year.

I have not watched The Terminal List yet.

I loved The Batman.

I personally thought Top Gun was overrated. I mean it was a good film with some cool shots, but it followed all the beats of the first film. The movie lacked true drama. Should have either centered around Goose's kid and had Cruise be more of a costar or been move about the drama between those two characters. It was good and nothing to complain about but overall, nothing special.

 

[JAWS]

Seriously - unlike certain other areas of the internetz, there are plenty of us on this (and other) forums that will call out the woke stupidity that has invaded various franchises over the last few years.

However - anyone that claims THIS (in ANY shape or form) is "woke", is being disingenuous or hasn't watched the movie.

This was realistic, understandable and believable . . . any problems you have with "representation" are down to your OWN insecurities and/or BS.


.

True that.

Nothing woke here. She was a well written character that I pulled for because she was believable and relatable.

So many films could learn a lesson from this movie.

 

[Rotfish]

Watched it.

It's-only-the-kind-of-Predator-film-we've-been-asking-for-since-1990 out of ten. There's nothing else to add that I or others haven't already said.

I guess the music could've been more "Predator-y"? I mean it was pretty and well-crafted, but forgettable in that it wasn't as reliant on themes as previous entries.

 

[Asta]

Watched it.

It's-only-the-kind-of-Predator-film-we've-been-asking-for-since-1990 out of ten. There's nothing else to add that I or others haven't already said.

A musical?

Predator vs. Prey: The Dance Off.

vs.

 

[Dave_W]

True that.

Nothing woke here. She was a well written character that I pulled for because she was believable and relatable.

So many films could learn a lesson from this movie.

Interesting point. If she was badly written, would it then be classed as woke? If she was a Mary Sue, would that be woke or just lazy/bad writing?

 

[Rotfish]

Interesting point. If she was badly written, would it then be classed as woke? If she was a Mary Sue, would that be woke or just lazy/bad writing?

I think it's a special combination of being a Mary Sue, taking the male characters to task for merely existing, then turning to the audience for cheers. It's such a specific recipe, yet there are quite a few movies that do this. Although at this point, I don't know what's worse: those movies or the people who mistake every other movie for them.

 

[greygoose]

Watched it.

It's-only-the-kind-of-Predator-film-we've-been-asking-for-since-1990 out of ten. There's nothing else to add that I or others haven't already said.

I guess the music could've been more "Predator-y"? I mean it was pretty and well-crafted, but forgettable in that it wasn't as reliant on themes as previous entries.

Yep. I'm still really not sure how I feel about it yet and how I would rate it. I've watched it twice now and I do enjoy it.

If you view the film as Narus story then it's a really well executed film. On the flip side, once you drop a Predator in there it becomes cloudy.

 

[a-dev]

Seems to me that those who didn't like the film didn't like it because of the Predator itself. For those people the design of the Predator and its portrayal are of the utmost importance and a Predator film lives or dies by it.

From what I'm hearing almost everything else is good.

Was too tired to watch it last night, maybe tonight to know where I'll stand.

 

[ObiGlennKenobi]

The Predator and Alien series have been linked since P2, but the Alien movies have been my favourite side of that battle.

The expansion on the universe that P2 provided, not just with the Xenomorph skull but the city setting, tipped my favour over the original long ago. It also moved away from the cliched muscle bound 80's posing that overshadowed the Yautja's debut.

I like the setting and cinematography of Prey, which makes it appear more than just another movie in a formulaic series.

Cinematography was awesome.
The scenery and landscapes had me in awe.

 

[greygoose]

Seems to me that those who didn't like the film didn't like it because of the Predator itself. For those people the design of the Predator and its portrayal are of the utmost importance and a Predator film lives or dies by it.

From what I'm hearing almost everything else is good.

Was too tired to watch it last night, maybe tonight to know where I'll stand.

Pretty much however there seems to be a greater liking for Berserker (Super Preds) these days. Wolf has a big following too (IMO still the best portrayal of the character since Predator 2). Some fans won't warm to Ferals design and some will. Time will tell.

 

[greygoose]

Cinematography was awesome.
The scenery and landscapes had me in awe.

Agreed. Stunning.

 

[chrisstbh]

I liked Naru's evolution as a hunter too.

Spoiler

She couldn't defeat the mountain lion, couldn't defeat the bear. She couldn't take one single hit from the Predator which left her with using his "code" against both him and her other enemies and then tricking him into using his tech against himself. She stayed in her lane and emerged victorious due to her wits and ability to keep just out of harm's reach.

The mud pit was also a fun red herring that obviously makes the viewer assume that she's going to use it to hide like Arnold did but then ended up having an entirely different purpose.

B-b-bu-but… woman!!! Small!!! Predator! Big!

 

[Alice]

Seems to me that those who didn't like the film didn't like it because of the Predator itself. For those people the design of the Predator and its portrayal are of the utmost importance and a Predator film lives or dies by it.

From what I'm hearing almost everything else is good.

This is exactly it. To me KPH embodied the creature itself. The unique design, and the derivations of it, created by Winston and his team. Etc. One thing I really like about Predator 2 is that it never seemed to step on the toes of Predator. It simply expanded upon the first movie from a narrative, design and even sound standpoint. Winston designed a new predator, unique from the first, but with enough connective tissue that it didn't seem like an attempt to redesign the creature, like a lot of subsequent films have. You still had KPH in the suit, so the creature felt congruous with the species. Something that the rest of the portrayals seem to lack. Ian Whyte tried to replicate that in AVP2, but every other predator just seems like a WWE wrestler. All brawn, and little of the agility apparent in the movements the first two movies portrayed. Even Alan Silvestri's score for Predator 2 seemed more like an expansion of the original with more tribal elements, rather than a retread or a complete reinvention.

No matter the setting or protagonists in these movies, if you don't get the creature right in these movies, they're never going to work for hardcore fans, because hardcore fans are here for the creature.

 

[laudel7]

Watched it last night. Liked it. Will have to watch again.

 

[Jaycepticon]

Interesting point. If she was badly written, would it then be classed as woke? If she was a Mary Sue, would that be woke or just lazy/bad writing?

Two major things differed from Naru in this movie compared to movies with Mary Sue’s.

1) They showed her coming of age. Like others said, that war cry at the end was so earned. Everything she did during the final battle was the payoff from her journey.

2) Her brother was a totally respectable character. He wasn’t just there to be a dweeb to Naru. He was every bit capable as her, and more and he treated Naru with respect. I’m so glad there wasn’t a single “slapstick” type of male character in this movie, in general.

 

[jye4ever]

Ok i’m up need coffee then back to Prey I should’ve done like a-dev and not started it late at night exhausted.

There is only one true masterpiece in this series which is obviously the first.

Hated HATED Predator 2 opening night haven’t watched it at home in over 25 years I do need to revisit one day but c’mon a predator in LA show me something I don’t know.

 

[ScoutingForToys]

Interesting point. If she was badly written, would it then be classed as woke? If she was a Mary Sue, would that be woke or just lazy/bad writing?

Mary Sue's can be created due to bad writing but I think "woke" implies the Mary Sue was created with an agenda. An ideology that lends itself to creating a perfect character because female characters can't have flaws. They're usually written to be surrounded by incompetent men.
I'm not sure how you can tell when a Mary Sue type character is bad writing or written with a particular ideology.
Is Rey a bad writing Mary Sue or an agenda Mary Sue for example?
I suppose you'd need to know the motives of those that created the character in the first place.
I haven't seen "Prey" yet, but from reading this thread it seems that the female lead is definitely not a Mary Sue.
Now, if she was written to be better than every man in the tribe, was amazing at everything, loved by everyone, never struggled, and kicked the crap out of the Predator with her awesome warrior/hunter skills, that would be a Mary Sue.
Would that be just bad writing or wokeness? Or badly written wokeness.
I'm not sure it matters as the result is the same and Hollywood seems to have a hard time writing strong women characters these days that aren't (apologies for using this...) "the bestest evarrrrr"

I'm not surprised a lot of people on the Internet assumed the worst. The first female lead in this "macho" film series.
The quality of writing these days for female characters hasn't been exactly great.
The initial blurb about "breaking gender norms to become a hunter" etc etc.
People conjured up an image of a overpowered "strong woman" super warrior destroying the Predator.

A lot of knee jerking went on.

I'm looking forward to seeing this later. I'm pleased they managed to write a decent female character.