PROMETHEUS: The future !!!!

[TOE]

I think you are both right, now lets hug and play with our collectibles

have you not learn anything, yet?

https://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29965

 

[lcummins]

I think you are both right, now lets hug and play with our collectibles

Ewwwww....

 

[galactiboy]

Just trying to repair the hurt

 

[JustinLuck]

Sideshow sold the buck for $20, sounds like a Volks sell for $50... there's your $30 difference.

Volks made their body in extremely limited runs. Sideshow reuses their body in the tens of thousands. Seriously. Think about how many figures have been made when you add up all the edition sizes for every figure ever made since Sideshow's inception. And yes, they've been using the Buck since the 1990's.

 

[Matt S]

I had no complaints because it was suggested that the higher prices were due to newer bodies being constructed, with the cost of research and development. But now that has changed.
I was surprised and a little shocked to see that the new Prometheus body is the same basic design as the Volks bodies out of Japan. This is nowhere close to being original. .
However, I feel that this new body does not warrant the price increase. The ends do not justify the means.

So, Sideshow modeling its new body type on an existing (and excellent) japanese body design is upsetting to you?! This is NOT the Volks body, though it is clearly based on it.....WE are getting a new body design, never before sported on any SS figure - it will allow for excellent range, and allow clothing to hang properly.

You will find you are in the minority.

 

[Batty]

I would think that their using the Prometheus myth (bringing fire to the people) literally: This figure is going to set our collectibles on fire.

But I don't want my collectibles to be on fire! They'll get all melty and smell bad!

 

[minivader]

so if a 1/6 company came out with a new body that looks just like the new SS pro body and called it their own none of you would have any problem with that? how about borrowing SSC's HS then? let's just take the obi wan HS and give it a smile mouth and call it a day and sell it.

 

[MaulFan]

From the 2/19 Q&A.

We’re proud to reveal two new 12-inch figure bodies this week, one designed for the armored Troopers (devoloped in coordination with Hot Toys) and one as a new ’standard’ male body, referred to internally as the ‘Prometheus’ body. The Art S. Buck will continue to be used when appropriate (there are many factors that influence the decision of which body to use, including manufacturing and logistical reasons). Both the Trooper and the Prometheus bodies were designed with the expectation that both shorter and taller versions will be necessary in future products, and can accommodate these alternate heights via alternate legs and other body parts, in a similar way to previous releases that have been scaled appropriately.

 

[galactiboy]

I think you are quick to assuming the worst about the body, its not 100% the same, but is very similar. Much like the DiD body is very similar to Dragon, but with some noticeable differences.

There are other possible explantions. One, it is possible (although not as likely) that this came to them completely independent of Volks. Maybe Volks was approached about using elements of their design and a deal was struck.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

so if a 1/6 company came out with a new body that looks just like the new SS pro body and called it their own none of you would have any problem with that?

Nope. I just don't take my doll collecting that seriously. As long as I'm getting a better product, I don't give a crap what's going on behind the scenes.

 

[pixletwin]

Nope. I just don't take my doll collecting that seriously. As long as I'm getting a better product, I don't give a crap what's going on behind the scenes.

Yup. I think people who are crying plagiarism perhaps need to take a short walk.

 

[Cocoboloboy]

Nope. I just don't take my doll collecting that seriously. As long as I'm getting a better product, I don't give a crap what's going on behind the scenes.

Yes sir. As long as it benefits the consumer and doesn't violate any copyright laws it doesn't make a bit of difference.

 

[minivader]

I am a bit surprised that not many people have a problem with the similarity between the new body and the volk/HT bodies, because to me, by using existing designs would mean there is less R&D time and effort, and that would have a direct impact on the price of the final product. and with the price of SSC going at $90 and possiblily more for armor figures, that brings in the question of what we are paying for? $90 might not be a problem for many of you, and it would seem like many would just pay it without a second thought as long as it is better, and not a buck. but the steady increase in price without the obivious improovement is something that's been annoying me for the last year, why is jedi luke $50 and farm boy luke $70? what are we getting for the $20? I have been buying SSC stuff from when they first made the 8" universal monster action figures and I have always felt their pricing is justified. I hate to think SSC is increasing the price because they can, but I just cant shake that feeling.

 

[galactiboy]

Let go of you feelings...

 

[Cocoboloboy]

The price increase is definitely a bummer justified or not. They have every right to charge whatever they want for their product.
Personally I'll have to pick and choose a bit because of it.

 

[Darklord Dave]

As I've tried to point out in many other posts, the price increases aren't just R&D for a new body, but many other economic factors. It isn't just SSC - other collectible companies are upping prices all over the place.

DCD 13" for $90?

 

[pixletwin]

I am a bit surprised that not many people have a problem with the similarity between the new body and the volk/HT bodies, because to me, by using existing designs would mean there is less R&D time and effort, and that would have a direct impact on the price of the final product. and with the price of SSC going at $90 and possiblily more for armor figures, that brings in the question of what we are paying for? $90 might not be a problem for many of you, and it would seem like many would just pay it without a second thought as long as it is better, and not a buck. but the steady increase in price without the obivious improovement is something that's been annoying me for the last year, why is jedi luke $50 and farm boy luke $70? what are we getting for the $20? I have been buying SSC stuff from when they first made the 8" universal monster action figures and I have always felt their pricing is justified. I hate to think SSC is increasing the price because they can, but I just cant shake that feeling.

It would seem to me like you are reaching for a reason to moan about having to pay more. Not trying to slag you off or anything. Thats just how I see it.

 

[minivader]

It would seem to me like you are reaching for a reason to moan about having to pay more. Not trying to slag you off or anything. Thats just how I see it.

I suppose it would seem that way, since I feel like you do about others who have posted comments on whatever problems or POV they have. but, what the hell, its only a hobby.

 

[pixletwin]

I suppose it would seem that way, since I feel like you do about others who have posted comments on whatever problems or POV they have. but, what the hell, its only a hobby.

We are all hypocrites.

 

[wookster]

I like the look of it a lot, and as far as R&D goes, there are many ways to replicate the human form and the way it works, but you don't re-invent the wheel.
As long as it's sturdy, and I have every reason to believe it will be, I think this could be just as good as the True-Type and GenXcore. I still think the RAH301 is a fantastic bit of engineering, but untill Medicom 'radically' change the base plastic to one far less brittle it's lost its top three ranking for me (pending seeing the Prom in hand).