Solarsailor
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No problem. Which facts were false though? I was stating the main reasons (for me) people choose consoles over PC's.
You think the PC system is more popular than consoles for gaming for the casual gamer?
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No problem. Which facts were false though? I was stating the main reasons (for me) people choose consoles over PC's.
You think the PC system is more popular than consoles for gaming for the casual gamer?
I'm guessing you didn't actually read the post when I quoted you. I highlighted the points and then wrote what I thought underneath your highlighted ones. If you did miss it I can see why I know I usually just scroll through quotes 
Personally, I find that reading is overrated most of the time. I come on this forum purely for the gifs.
Solarsailor
Super Freak
I'm guessing you didn't actually read the post when I quoted you. I highlighted the points and then wrote what I thought underneath your highlighted ones. If you did miss it I can see why I know I usually just scroll through quotes
ahh I see.
I still don't really agree though. A console is purely for gaming where as a PC is an all round great package for a more serious gamer (as far as tinkering goes) or someone who likes to do more. It's not really the same thing. A console is compact, built for games, built for lazy idiots like me really.
I come home from work, open a beer, sit on the sofa with a mate and play some games. I don't really fit the PC mold. None of my friends own PC's, none of their friends own PC's and no one at my work place as far as I know owns a PC for gaming purposes. That's not to say it's not popular, just not with the common man.
It's a much more dedicated system that requires updates, awkward looking giant boxes and a school desk
I can go out after a hang over , buy a PS4, hook it up with a mate and play jaw dropping games within half an hour for $399 then switch it off.
Could I do the same with a $399 PC?
Also it's the XBOX VS PS thread, I didn't really bring up the PC debate because I don't own one. I simply stated my reasons why I don't own one.
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GasparZizou
Super Freak
I disagree, there is absolutely no question that the PC is the most powerful platform, but when it comes purely to gaming, not tech specs, there are many reasons why the console are on par with the PC or even above.
One of those reasons are the exclusives, PC hasn't been nearly as fortunate as Consoles with exclusives since the PS1 came out, sure now some games of those platforms have been ported and there are emulators all the way up to the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube, I firmly believe Consoles made gaming as big and serious as it is today, or at least contributed in the majority.
I also think the term hardcore/serious gamer has no relation with the platform you play on.
I game on everything btw, just to remove the bias.
Solarsailor
Super Freak
Easily. Consoles came first for gaming and dominated for a long time.
GasparZizou
Super Freak
Well didn't really come first but they sure made gaming waaaay more accessible.
Solarsailor
Super Freak
GasparZizou
Super Freak
Well I guess if you're counting the commodore 64/ZX spectrum crowd.
I never got to use one of those though, I'm a baby
I'm a biased Playstation fanboy, since I've only gamed on Playstation consoles for the past 13 years. I refuse to play X-Box because its development was funded by selling the pelts of dead kittens. It's a fact.
Solarsailor
Super Freak
I never got to use one of those though, I'm a baby
I actually had a green screen Amstrad (my mates had Spectrums) but unless you're from the UK I doubt anyone would know what that was!
GasparZizou
Super Freak
ahh I see.
I still don't really agree though. A console is purely for gaming where as a PC is an all round great package for a more serious gamer (as far as tinkering goes) or someone who likes to do more. It's not really the same thing. A console is compact, built for games, built for lazy idiots like me really.
I come home from work, open a beer, sit on the sofa with a mate and play some games. I don't really fit the PC mold. None of my friends own PC's, none of their friends own PC's and no one at my work place as far as I know owns a PC for gaming purposes. That's not to say it's not popular, just not with the common man.
It's a much more dedicated system that requires updates, awkward looking giant boxes and a school desk
I can go out after a hang over , buy a PS4, hook it up with a mate and play jaw dropping games within half an hour for $399 then switch it off.
Could I do the same with a $399 PC?
Also it's the XBOX VS PS thread, I didn't really bring up the PC debate because I don't own one. I simply stated my reasons why I don't own one.
Console is not purely for gaming. Have you looked at the xbox this next gen? They are TRYING to make it not purely for gaming. If you would have said this during the xbox/ps2 days I would have totally agreed with you, but consoles are not just gaming machines anymore. They include netflix,amazon instant, Hulu etc. Pay per view events, sports and plenty more. They also include a web browser. So no they aren't strictly for gaming anymore. I also don't understand the argument that it requires updates. Do consoles not require updates? Every update for my games are updated with maybe one click of a button if that. Just like consoles.
I will definitely disagree with you on this. PC exclusives tower over console exclusives. two HUGE genres are barely even made for consoles. RTS's and MMO's. PC has so many exclusives. Why do you think I actually play PC games? If I could get the same games on consoles as I could on PC I probably wouldn't be playing PC at all. I just can't agree at all that consoles are on par or even above most aspects. You know how easy it is to completely MOD a game on PC? Unzip some folders and boom you have a almost completely different game. You can't do that on a console. Consoles are very restricted when it comes to changing your game around, but yes I do agree consoles have made gaming what it is today. It went from pure geeks in basements playing games to mainstream and that is a good thing. I'm not dissing on consoles at all. I love them to death. I have a ps4 pre ordered and completely paid off at Gamestop. It's just that its silly to really think consoles are better at gaming than PCs. I guess if you have never truly experienced PC gaming then its hard to comprehend.
GasparZizou
Super Freak
@Duck
I have experienced true PC gaming, Like I said, I play on everything, I've owned a PC since I was six and been upgrading ever since, haven't upgraded in 4 years cause there isn't anything that motivates me to do it.
I love RTSs and I don't really care for MMORPGs, but they're not nearly as big as you think they are, compared to the rest of the genres, I'd even dare to say that the Sports genre is bigger than those 2.
I will also say this; I don't consider mods to be a legit experience, the amount of total conversions that actually add substance to the gameplay or the story are just a handful, most of them are to twitch the visual or sound aspects of a game, texture packs if you will, nothing more.
The amount of console exclusives that have high production values and story driven gameplay and get better scores, are easily 3 or 4 to 1 compared to PC exclusives.
I.e. sure Crysis looked amazing at the time, still, Killzone 2 and Halo were 3 times better IMO.
That's what I mean, for me, Consoles clearly are on par or above to PC when talking purely about the soul of the matter, the games.
PS: But that may be about to change, considering next gen consoles are built more like PCs, I don't really see Consoles getting as much exclusives as in the previous generations.
I have experienced true PC gaming, Like I said, I play on everything, I've owned a PC since I was six and been upgrading ever since, haven't upgraded in 4 years cause there isn't anything that motivates me to do it.
I love RTSs and I don't really care for MMORPGs, but they're not nearly as big as you think they are, compared to the rest of the genres, I'd even dare to say that the Sports genre is bigger than those 2.
I will also say this; I don't consider mods to be a legit experience, the amount of total conversions that actually add substance to the gameplay or the story are just a handful, most of them are to twitch the visual or sound aspects of a game, texture packs if you will, nothing more.
The amount of console exclusives that have high production values and story driven gameplay and get better scores, are easily 3 or 4 to 1 compared to PC exclusives.
I.e. sure Crysis looked amazing at the time, still, Killzone 2 and Halo were 3 times better IMO.
That's what I mean, for me, Consoles clearly are on par or above to PC when talking purely about the soul of the matter, the games.
PS: But that may be about to change, considering next gen consoles are built more like PCs, I don't really see Consoles getting as much exclusives as in the previous generations.
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Solarsailor
Super Freak
Or roughly translated - Things only Americans can use?
Sure it can do more than just gaming but really most casual and regular gamers are buying this for the games and perhaps the other added benefits like the Kinect system and perhaps the recording games function.
The Blu ray/TV etc etc will be a non essential buying point for most as will the internet.
I hope they do incorporate better uses outside the core gaming that I can take advantage of as a every day user. Again though, it's not my primary reason for purchase.
Well I guess if you're counting the commodore 64/ZX spectrum crowd.
Wait Atari game system had already been out for a couple years.
Yeah maybe but the US is where is sold the most units. Plus in a day where many people are ditching cable/sat tv the option to use this for games, Hulu, Netflix, pay preview etc... makes it actually appealing to a new market.Or roughly translated - Things only Americans can use?
Sure it can do more than just gaming but really most casual and regular gamers are buying this for the games and perhaps the other added benefits like the Kinect system and perhaps the recording games function.
The Blu ray/TV etc etc will be a non essential buying point for most as will the internet.
I hope they do incorporate better uses outside the core gaming that I can take advantage of as a every day user. Again though, it's not my primary reason for purchase.
Well I guess if you're counting the commodore 64/ZX spectrum crowd.
Wait Atari game system had already been out for a couple years.
GasparZizou
Super Freak
Uhm Isn't the USA like barely 1/4 of the sales of both 360 and ps3?
It's the largest single country
Xbox 360 is a little less than half, PS3 is about 1/4th. Europe is a very big market for PS3 but that's kind of off since that includes so many countries.
Xbox 360 is a little less than half, PS3 is about 1/4th. Europe is a very big market for PS3 but that's kind of off since that includes so many countries.
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