Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "Driver"

[marlindesign]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

I fixed it up a little bit more... But we shouldn't have to cover the eyes - I want to see them!!!

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

I don't know what to say. I agree with you guys about paying all this money for something that lacks likeness. But then again, it is a Rainman piece with his signature style of sculpting which makes him unique, just like a Dali painting or a Michael Angelo sculpture.

What I think is happening (and someone already mentioned this) is that the hobby has evolved to where we are getting very accurate head sculpts from other artists and big companies for a lesser price (even with inflation). The only way I would feel comfortable (in my head) about paying all this money is to keep seeing this as a work of art and not a toy figure. But then again, I'm a toy figure collector, otherwise I would be buying paintings.

I agree comm and there is only so much an artist can do to improve on a sculpt, but if your connected to the material I think an artist would step back and pinpoint flaws and whether somthing works or not.

Just the concept of for a second there not considering the gunsling or not properly studying the research material for a detail as evident as not having the quotes on the King Kong patch, or not properly color correcting. The chest and belt are amazing, but its the whole logistics of this thats off I guess. Proper time should be given in order to get certain characters done properly.

 

[siquisiri]

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I'm sure I'm probably preaching to the choir for some of you, but I've only recently (past 2-3 years) started a family and bought a house, and what you can buy with $1000 has surprised me. For example, we just picked up one of those fancy *** front load washers with like 16 wash cycles and it was approximately the cost of a DX. I don't know, sometimes I don't think about it, but $1000 for a doll is pretty scary. Man, gotta stop thinking about this or I'll have mixed feelings every time I look at my figures.

Yep! im with you. Ive only bought RM sculpts and put the rest together. $1500k+??? no way!! thats a mortgage payment!

 

[Yogi]

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Proper time should be given in order to get ALL characters done properly.

Fixed. It's not about releases you may not like as much, or having entitlement in owning a particular "grail." As an artist, ALL characters should be treated the same, and that's how a business stays at the top of the game. It's funny; if he works fast and pumps out what is perceived as "great work," people are loving the timetables and feeling the release. When there is a figure that is scrutinized or nit-picked, for whatever the reason, then all variables get put into the equation (i.e., did he not work as hard on this as oppose to a commission, is he not sourcing the right materials or getting the right research, he's working too fast, yada, yada, yada).

 

[Wake]

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I see three kinds of people in this thread. 1. The diehard rainman collector that will buy anything he makes because its rainman (for instance claiming that the "style" of this figure is rainman even if the likeness is off). 2. The collector desperately trying to convince himself that this figure looks good and is a good value for the price despite what his head and wallet are telling him. And 3. The collector who realizes that this piece is not worth $1200.

 

[marlindesign]

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To be honest though - released in August - 10 days??? That does seem pretty quick for turn around. And no one would have an issue in a quick turn around if the end result was spot on. If it is not - the conclusion seems to be that it was rushed and not fine tuned to the best it could be...

 

[PopCultKid]

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Can't disagree with most of you. The hobby is changing and RM isn't really changing with it. There is a disconnect with the source material because he's not a die-hard fan of most of the characters he's producing. Without that personal connection he doesn't understand important aspects of the characters as the die-hards do. He doesn't have that burning itch like Beto to cross all the t's and dot the i's; there isn't that same OCD level of accuracy research here. I'm not faulting him over it, it just seems to be the way it is.

The manip with the glasses looks good but who wants to hide a RM sculpt? I'd like it to look equally as good with and without the shades.

I was really hoping that this one was going to dodge the "style" bullet (as some releases do) but it got grazed. I don't think the sculpt is 1000% there, but it's not far off either. It really is close enough but I feel the paint is what's throwing it off. Like the others said I agree that the irises are a little big and the eyebrows are a smidge thick.

I've been marinating on this for a while now... got some thinking to do....

 

[karamazov80]

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To Wake's post, you don't have to shell out $1,200. No one forces anyone to go with the "complete work," particularly if someone isn't a fan purely of the art and style of Rainman, which in my mind is usually the main reason to go full set. There are head/clothing options (which I usually go for with Rainman) that ultimately cost around the price of a couple Hot Toys figures. Even with likenesses that are a bit off, getting extremely high quality 1/6 figures from films and performances I actually care about is a pretty easy sell, as it is sometimes with Iminime.

Regarding the style thing, whether or not you are a Rainman fan, I think you can see a certain stylistic similarity to a lot of his sculpts, particularly around the eyes. Compare this to Pee-Wee or Tony Soprano, and I think there is something about them that is like a Rainman signature. It detracts a bit from the likeness IMO, but you can tell it's sculpted by the same guy. I think other sculptors also have tendencies that distinguish their sculpts. I can often tell a Rocco sculpt is from Rocco just because of a slight stylistic influence.

 

[Rahmier84]

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I think rainman should show clear pics of the headsculpt even when work in progress. No photoshopping to hide the likeness issues. For me the sculpt is the most important part and having all these little teasers to reveal something that is probably finished now is a little dissapointing for everyone imho.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Re: Rainman Artwork 2013 NYC Cabbie "God's Lonely Man"

It just such an odd choice of half closed eyelid expression if hes not going to do the bloody paintwork to go with it but even then its not really working. Then the standard closed lip is getting a little old already, and those lips are accentuated very very feminine like.

Again with respect, it needs work.

 

[Commtech]

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Of course there's a style/signature going on. You have to be blind to not notice the similarities, especially in the eye area.

I guess someone is not having a good day and just needed to throw a jab.

 

[marlindesign]

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I am really liking the bottom half of the sculpt - can't stop looking at it...It's near perfect and lifelike... The top half is a sad state of affairs... I am sad.

 

[vareika]

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I just see these figures as Art, and imo, and its just my opinion, Art should only be bought if you can afford it without sacrificing essential family and life needs haha

Totally agree. Although I'm surprised at how close a lot of people are in terms of "living pay check to pay check" when it comes to figures. Sure, of course, that's after taking care of the family and needs, but still. This hobby is scary, that's what I'm getting at. Also, "essential family and life needs" varies so much to different people haha...

No, kiddo, you must only spend $10 on toys a year (Daddy's gotta buy RM figures).

 

[PopCultKid]

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I see three kinds of people in this thread. 1. The diehard rainman collector that will buy anything he makes because its rainman (for instance claiming that the "style" of this figure is rainman even if the likeness is off). 2. The collector desperately trying to convince himself that this figure looks good and is a good value for the price despite what his head and wallet are telling him. And 3. The collector who realizes that this piece is not worth $1200.

You're suggesting that everyone buys based on criteria that you look for in a piece. Not everyone is bent on likeness and there are collectors that like RM & Serang's style, and that's why they buy their stuff. Don't get me wrong... personally I'm bent on likeness too, I'm just reminding you that not everyone looks for the same things in a piece.

Like I said, likeness is a feature in a fig that's important to me personally, but I get how and why people can be drawn to something different. His Alex isn't the greatest of likenesses but it's one of my favorite pieces in my collection... because it's ALEX! I have a few other pieces that don't really reach my finicky standards of likeness but for their own reasons are exempt from the rule.

So this could be well worth $1200 to some, even if it's not to you

 

[armysoldier74b]

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I agree comm and there is only so much an artist can do to improve on a sculpt, but if your connected to the material I think an artist would step back and pinpoint flaws and whether somthing works or not.

Just the concept of for a second there not considering the gunsling or not properly studying the research material for a detail as evident as not having the quotes on the King Kong patch, or not properly color correcting. The chest and belt are amazing, but its the whole logistics of this thats off I guess. Proper time should be given in order to get certain characters done properly.

I think you guys threw the book at the Man with the best reference materials possible. Literally

The wrong patch is inexcusable after seeing you post about it all this time.
We need to pick some Korean-speaking kid off the streets and help us communicate this stuff up to the Man.

IMO I think it looks great. Maybe making promises that this figure would be his best like Bill was not the smartest thing to do. It added too much pressure. In the end this is the best representation of Bickle out there.

Hope your happy with your grail Turbo I know you've been waiting for this for some time. Don't let the little things ruin this moment.

 

[PopCultKid]

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Thinking really hard about this one.... it would be a heartbreaker to have to pass...

 

[Ajkhunter]

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Totally agree. Although I'm surprised at how close a lot of people are in terms of "living pay check to pay check" when it comes to figures. Sure, of course, that's after taking care of the family and needs, but still. This hobby is scary, that's what I'm getting at. Also, "essential family and life needs" varies so much to different people haha...

No, kiddo, you must only spend $10 on toys a year (Daddy's gotta buy RM figures).

Haha, agree man

 

[Cap'n Cook]

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Rainman just posted a painted pic up on facebooK!!!!

I must be in the minority here that love it.

 

[Ajkhunter]

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I must be in the minority here that love it.

Not sure I love it but I definitely really like it and am very excited to see the haired sculpt! You'd think people would know how Rainman sculpts by now.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

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Precisely. This looks exactly how I expected it to.

Smacks of rainmans style but that's why I am buying this version of my favourite character.