Rainman Artwork 2013 Pulp Fiction Project 2- Jules the Shepard

[armysoldier74b]

to the rm community,
a note on respectable criticism. its all fine and dandy. until it becomes to the point where its relentless, you can say you buy his releases, love his work, and say you have the upmost respect for him. but if you think he not showing the tweaks and commenting about jules is because he is busy with private commissions your nuts! to me its clear he is pi$$ed off big time. and who can blame him, the amount of "respectful criticism" is nausiating. i know he is an artist and should be able to take it blah blah blah, let me see anybody be o.k with what went on with the vincent and jules. more way more jules. another thing, sometimes "'sorry" is too late. this isnt directed at anybody in particular. its for the whole rm crowd. this man has bent over backwards at times to please the "minority" i think. most are very happy with what he puts out. there is no way the majority is unhappy all the time. so when he tweaks and re-works its for the lesser percent. to be honest sending him a private pm or email at this time is worthless,. the man is upset and thats that. if any think i am wrong go and re-read this whole thread. you cant help but feel bad for the guy. he has been chased away and its best for all of us to shut our trap's and lay low for awhile. and not 2 days, until he breaks the silence and comes back on. he gets it, just stop commenting and leave this alone. but, now with this private commission thing, the flames are just going to get bigger and bigger. the rm freaks relationship may have changed forever.

Lets not get carried away now

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_rWA9kZeE[/ame]

People's feelings get hurt, they carry on, and move out!
We'll all be sitting on the round table again. Say what you want to say, but hurt feelings is not going to keep someone from dropping a fan base of 35 people, or more, with 900 dollars ready to pay.

Enough people have apologized and we can all learn from mistakes. I know I've put my foot in my mouth more than a few times.

I'd still like to see what Rainman can do if he chose his own project and without any input from any of us

 

[karamazov80]

Looks very good. Eye work in phenomenal.

 

[bigbrocha]

to the rm community,
a note on respectable criticism. its all fine and dandy. until it becomes to the point where its relentless, you can say you buy his releases, love his work, and say you have the upmost respect for him. but if you think he not showing the tweaks and commenting about jules is because he is busy with private commissions your nuts! to me its clear he is pi$$ed off big time. and who can blame him, the amount of "respectful criticism" is nausiating. i know he is an artist and should be able to take it blah blah blah, let me see anybody be o.k with what went on with the vincent and jules. more way more jules. another thing, sometimes "'sorry" is too late. this isnt directed at anybody in particular. its for the whole rm crowd. this man has bent over backwards at times to please the "minority" i think. most are very happy with what he puts out. there is no way the majority is unhappy all the time. so when he tweaks and re-works its for the lesser percent. to be honest sending him a private pm or email at this time is worthless,. the man is upset and thats that. if any think i am wrong go and re-read this whole thread. you cant help but feel bad for the guy. he has been chased away and its best for all of us to shut our trap's and lay low for awhile. and not 2 days, until he breaks the silence and comes back on. he gets it, just stop commenting and leave this alone. but, now with this private commission thing, the flames are just going to get bigger and bigger. the rm freaks relationship may have changed forever.

I'm sure Rainman appreciates the sentiment of you guys attempting to come to his rescue and gain more brownie points but he is not under attack here, we all love and respect him and like to think we all have the same friendly relationship with him and that he does not value people based on how much money they are willing to spend, cause we all would if we had the means. Not one person has said anything here disrespectful they wouldn't tell one of their closest friends if they thought things needed to change for the better and you obviously haven't been following the thread close enough to comment so go back to name dropping and PMing behind close doors, this thread is best left to the individuals that contribute to the this community and constantly provide input to the Rainman threads/releases we all love so dearly. Seriously, what is the point of mentioning you knew these commissions where being made long ago, besides trying to sound like some in-the-know scenester, having some OOAK outfit is completely different than a full figure. People have the right to express distaste, its an open forum and its their opinion on the subject. Rainman is a business man, all we are doing is providing him some customer feedback about the situation, unfortunately at times it can't always be positive or to everyone's liking, however pointing out situations like this can prevent future problems like this from arising again, the only way we learn from our mistakes is by acknowledging them and moving forward, not being silent and private behind closed doors letting them just build up. Also Rainman hasn't been familiar with a few of the characters he has done, he hadn't seen Pee-Wee's Big Adventure but he understood the significance of the character and recognized the demand to proceed just like i'm sure he would have with Boardwalk had it been pitched and approached the right way with everyone's support or at least a select few rather than someone with ulterior motives and a fat wad o' cash. StateofQatar, welcome you have some amazing pieces, we are all jealous with envy, huge success on your secret project, welcome and hopefully you can now be more active in some of the discussions here.

Also that Jules sculpt looks boss, always thought so.

 

[PopCultKid]

Well said again Chris

Enough people have apologized and we can all learn from mistakes.

I take it you accept then

Seeings as this is the thread for Jules.
Looks awesome!!!!
SHIP!!! SHIP!!!! SHIP!!!!

Is that his paint? Doesn't look like it but I do like the lips the right color like this

 

[Raymond F.]

Personally I think that given the amount of strong differing opinions on the matter you're never not going to have smooth sailing on a topic like this and there will be little aligning on opinions , simple as that there's no right or wrong and everything's kind of been said already.

What's "right or wrong" about private commissions is debatable and it's the only thing that's spawned some bickering on this thread. In terms of the constructive feedback offered to Raonman to improve the product, I honestly never thought it was disrespectful of members to offer suggestions to get a better product out of it.

I don't think there was any disrespect offered to Rainman at least not from what i can remember with as many sensible and respective members who are fellow rainman collectors.

I think the solution is for rainman to find a volunteer who speaks Korean and can avoid misinterpretation and miscommunication so things are not coming off as insulting which I don't think they ever meant to be.

I also don't think the community is soured or will never be the same again, that's a drastic comment. IMO there was little personal disrespect going on, even when opinions differed. Believe me there's more than a few members on these boards who turn into bickering when opinions differ, at least this group can state it respectively without insulting eachother or losing respect for one another. That's rare for this forum if you ask me.

 

[PopCultKid]

Agreed. There will always be mixed feelings on a lot of issues here and recasting and private commissions are two good examples. Everyone could pick what they feel is right and wrong and that's just personal opinion but whichever side of the fence you fall on in any subject, I think you can see that the other side has their points too. Three sides to every story …

 

[john hbk]

is this the worst its ever got in a thread?

 

[karamazov80]

Probably not. This kind of thing happens pretty frequently in Rainman threads.

 

[Greeny400]

Discussion is always good but I can imagine the threads in the past have descended into chaos as much as this one has.

 

[mightyq]

Well said mightyq... All the new- jacks buying into the game, people who have their photoshop out, dissecting each sculpt, what bodies he should use and all other nauseating posts that are like essays and worthless drivel take their toll. Yeah, you love rainman, but you constantly "suggest" things that he creates. It's really disgusting

yogi- i think you got my post wrong. iwasnt implying that a photoshop or changeing a body is a bad thing.its actualy a good thing that helps both rm and us. what i meant was is that we sometimes get carried away with repeating the same thing everyday and by more than one person that can get to be too much. i am sure rm hears what people want from the start and doesnt mind,. its just when he hears the same over and over he must get tired of it. i should have been more clear. when popc says something to help and improve for the release wich helps everybody 5-6 people say the same thing in a different way. same for turbo, he says something and 5-6 people say the same but in a different way. this is when rm's patience can get short i would assume. i could be wrong, he could not mind all of it one bit. although i doubt that. like i said we need to hear from him no matter what way he feels, staying quiet is probably not best. hope this clears that up for you. i value pop c and turbo and guys like that with the passion, its the aftermath that rm must find isnt needed.

 

[mightyq]

Lets not get carried away now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_rWA9kZeE

People's feelings get hurt, they carry on, and move out!
We'll all be sitting on the round table again. Say what you want to say, but hurt feelings is not going to keep someone from dropping a fan base of 35 people, or more, with 900 dollars ready to pay.

Enough people have apologized and we can all learn from mistakes. I know I've put my foot in my mouth more than a few times.
I'd still like to see what Rainman can do if he chose his own project and without any input from any of us

whats the matter i cant have an opinion? only you i suppose. i read all of your dribble all the time. maybe i need to disect your posts. and god knows you dont have to go far to find them. but i do give you credit for admitting a little.

 

[Greeny400]

Now now people lets not start getting into a **** flinging match as the thread was getting back on track.

 

[Bullet]

Seeings as this is the thread for Jules.
Looks awesome!!!!
SHIP!!! SHIP!!!! SHIP!!!!

Sculpt looks great here! Any idea if this is the tweaked sculpt or not? Lip colour is far far better see much more SLJ now

 

[mightyq]

I'm sure Rainman appreciates the sentiment of you guys attempting to come to his rescue and gain more brownie points but he is not under attack here, we all love and respect him and like to think we all have the same friendly relationship with him and that he does not value people based on how much money they are willing to spend, cause we all would if we had the means.

Not one person has said anything here disrespectful they wouldn't tell one of their closest friends if they thought things needed to change for the better and you obviously haven't been following the thread close enough to comment

" looks like some old samurai dude", "vince looked cartoony and asian" , " this no way looks like slk", yeah brocha very respectful. just glowing feedback. get a clue before trying to be a hero.


so go back to name dropping and PMing behind close doors,


again get a clue, name dropping who?? and pm'ing who?


Seriously, what is the point of mentioning you knew these commissions where being made long ago, besides trying to sound like some in-the-know scenester,
really, you have no idea why i would ssay that? ok i'll go slow for you. it was my way of saying that it didnt bother me in the least that he had private commissons going on while doing the releases.


having some OOAK outfit is completely different than a full figure.

again, what are you talking about?? fill me in !

People have the right to express distaste, its an open forum and its their opinion on the subject.
, you are a real joke, you say this above that i will paste here for you.

Not one person has said anything here disrespectful they wouldn't tell one of their closest friends if they thought things needed to change for the better and you obviously haven't been following the thread close enough to comment[/SIZE]


Rainman is a business man, all we are doing is providing him some customer feedback about the situation, unfortunately at times it can't always be positive or to everyone's liking,
however pointing out situations like this can prevent future problems like this from arising again, the only way we learn from our mistakes is by acknowledging them and moving forward, not being silent and private behind closed doors letting them just build up. Also Rainman hasn't been familiar with a few of the characters he has done, he hadn't seen Pee-Wee's Big Adventure but he understood the significance of the character and recognized the demand to proceed just like i'm sure he would have with Boardwalk had it been pitched and approached the right way with everyone's support or at least a select few rather than someone with ulterior motives and a fat wad o' cash. StateofQatar, welcome you have some amazing pieces, we are all jealous with envy, huge success on your secret project, welcome and hopefully you can now be more active in some of the discussions here.

Also that Jules sculpt looks boss, always thought so.

really getting into more would make me head hurt,

 

[mishu2nite]

If shadowfla wasn't banned already, I am sure after all this stuff. I can see this thread totally taken to a next step if he was around, LOL.

Simple to me:
Congrads to the guy who commisioned the piece, great piece, he should feel lucky to own such a wonderful figure.
Congrads to Rainman for making a fantastic piece like that, good for him.
Move on.
Rainman will continue to make great figures. There will be ones I do not wish to get, then others that will probably blow my mind.

Who knows maybe one day the guy may sell his collection and that piece will be up for sale. You never know.

 

[PopCultKid]

I can't figure out whose paint this is. Lighting is deceiving but this looks more like Aeon's color scheme. RM's skin tone appeared darker but I doubt that the first re-reveal would be of someone else's paint...

 

[qbomb71]

“You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”

― Abraham Lincoln

 

[Billythekid]

Got it anyway....see what it looks like after Nathan takes it on

 

[qbomb71]

Just glad to have my Jules sculpt on order and Robbie's briefcase. My PF shelf will be complete. I think the painted sculpt being shown looks great. Now ship it Rainman.

 

[drdandalek]

I would love to say that new Jules head looks immeasurably better, but alas I can't. I really hoped the paint would pull the sculpt through. It didn't. I truly hate it for what I call you rainmaniacs. That is about as close as the first try. Something is just not right. I hope the Taxi Driver Bickle works a little better because I always enjoy seeing a good looking figure. Just my 2 cents.