Rainman Artwork 2013 Pulp Fiction Project 2- Jules the Shepard

[vareika]

Still available on RM's website

 

[TotalDominAsian]

Well, if anyone here can grab an extra painted Jules head I would very grateful and gladly reimburse you, really don't want to miss out on Jules.

They're still available!

 

[bigbrocha]

I know, I'm aware of that, I read it a few posts before mine, thats why I asked if someone can make the purchase for me right now before they sell out, I'm broke at this exact moment, just paid my rent.

 

[PopCultKid]

He did say that, and it could be because of the simplicity of the PF outfits that they didn't see that price increase. If/when it happens, it will happen, but I still think you'll be getting a good deal for the price when you consider the quality of the outfits, accessories, sculpt, and paint apps. If it were DF Studios still doing the paint work, then that might be a bigger issue from my POV.

My point is still this though--truly "gold" custom prices are full set prices from Rainman, and if your argument is that you're not getting your money's worth there, maybe it would make sense to consider the cheaper, less "special" option. The problem is that it is less special of course, but if you don't think his work justifies that premium then maybe it wouldn't be such a major shift.

I'll explain myself better because that's not what I was trying to say. I'm saying that both FS/DX and H&C ARE usually worth the money. H&C and clothes sets will still be worth the money after the price hike (they have been absolute steals up until now) and then the difference between FS and H&C's will be easily justifiable for the extras that you getting.

Sure, if a set is light on accessories or has basic, less intricate accessories then I don’t feel that it should be offered at the current standard $820. I don't think that should be the mentality; EVERYTHING is $820 no matter what. If less work is involved then there’s no reason why it shouldn't be reflected in the retail price. If $820 is the unbendable standard, then every set should be well planned out and live up to the $820 standard. And IMO it's not just how many accessories or how intricate the accessories are that justify the price point. Rushed sculpts that don't live up to RM's full potential is also an aspect that will make a release feel not worth the MSRP to me. So when I say offering silver for gold prices, I guess I'm just talking about the PF offerings thus far. I think that they could have been handled better and I think the sculpts could have used a little more time to get them just right.

 

[TotalDominAsian]

I wouldn't say the H&C are "absolute steals" since you're not getting his paint, the full set/dx exclusives, AND let's face it... full sets bring much higher returns in the secondary market if you choose to sell them off. H&C sets are still "high 1/6" pricing where they run about $500 shipped and another ~$60 for the body. Depending on where you live and how easily you can acquire a body, you're paying about $300 extra for the full set.

Let's take this set for example... The Enterbay Agent J body was going for $75 on eBay before completely selling out. You get the dork clothes ~$60, full set wallet, and a full set drink. Let's put a value of about $100 for those. (Doubt you'll find a full set guy even considering selling those full set exclusives for $100 so that's a very conservative estimate.) That comes out to around $235, leaving $135 ONLY in difference! Custom painting services for headsculpts seem to run about $150+ here anyways... and PRETEND Rainman painted the H&C sets anyways. You'll easily get the $135 in value back in long term value. You'll never see a H&C sell for $1400+.


But why is the full set not as valued here? Well... it's a guy in a suit so there are many who just want the painted headsculpt and bash a pretty damn good one themselves like many have for Vincent. The full set pricing also takes into account the dork clothes which is nice to have... but will almost certainly not be displayed by anyone here without multiples. Even the wallet is associated with the dork clothes... and the big kahuna drink is badass but not really $$$ badass.

 

[Wake]

I wouldn't say the H&C are "absolute steals" since you're not getting his paint, the full set/dx exclusives, AND let's face it... full sets bring much higher returns in the secondary market if you choose to sell them off. H&C sets are still "high 1/6" pricing where they run about $500 shipped and another ~$60 for the body. Depending on where you live and how easily you can acquire a body, you're paying about $300 extra for the full set.

Let's take this set for example... The Enterbay Agent J body was going for $75 on eBay before completely selling out. You get the dork clothes ~$60, full set wallet, and a full set drink. Let's put a value of about $100 for those. (Doubt you'll find a full set guy even considering selling those full set exclusives for $100 so that's a very conservative estimate.) That comes out to around $235, leaving $135 ONLY in difference! Custom painting services for headsculpts seem to run about $150+ here anyways... and PRETEND Rainman painted the H&C sets anyways. You'll easily get the $135 in value back in long term value. You'll never see a H&C sell for $1400+.


But why is the full set not as valued here? Well... it's a guy in a suit so there are many who just want the painted headsculpt and bash a pretty damn good one themselves like many have for Vincent. The full set pricing also takes into account the dork clothes which is nice to have... but will almost certainly not be displayed by anyone here without multiples. Even the wallet is associated with the dork clothes... and the big kahuna drink is badass but not really $$$ badass.

Totally AGREE...

BUT... there were only 3 available.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

I'm starting to think that this Pulp Fiction set is going to be one of the most sought after pieces from Rainman's catalog.

 

[DarthMagnus]

I'm starting to think that this Pulp Fiction set is going to be one of the most sought after pieces from Rainman's catalog.

NOW TAKE VINNY OFF THE CHOPPING BLOCK!

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Those Dork clothes are the sleeper item, watch and see! People are going to be scrambling for them. I know trends all too well

 

[Commtech]

I'm starting to think that this Pulp Fiction set is going to be one of the most sought after pieces from Rainman's catalog.

 

[karamazov80]

I wouldn't say the H&C are "absolute steals" since you're not getting his paint, the full set/dx exclusives, AND let's face it... full sets bring much higher returns in the secondary market if you choose to sell them off. H&C sets are still "high 1/6" pricing where they run about $500 shipped and another ~$60 for the body. Depending on where you live and how easily you can acquire a body, you're paying about $300 extra for the full set.

Let's take this set for example... The Enterbay Agent J body was going for $75 on eBay before completely selling out. You get the dork clothes ~$60, full set wallet, and a full set drink. Let's put a value of about $100 for those. (Doubt you'll find a full set guy even considering selling those full set exclusives for $100 so that's a very conservative estimate.) That comes out to around $235, leaving $135 ONLY in difference! Custom painting services for headsculpts seem to run about $150+ here anyways... and PRETEND Rainman painted the H&C sets anyways. You'll easily get the $135 in value back in long term value. You'll never see a H&C sell for $1400+.

Well you've got a number of assumptions going into your POV. Resale value factors into your calculation, you are accounting for the EB body, from jacked up eBay prices (which isn't a factor for nearly every Rainman release), you assume the collectors really want the fullset items, and you are placing a premium on the "specialness" of the RM paint job. If you don't make those assumptions (and I don't really), and we're just talking about getting a super nice figure on the shelf, going by prices so far ($450ish for a head/outfit set + $50 or so for the body and you're good) you are getting a really good deal as far as these things go IMO. Hot Toys figures are creeping up on $300, and these are mass produced in the 1,000s. Iminime figures are approaching $400 (more in the case of Cowboy), with the knockoff body, and aren't approaching Rainman's level of tailoring.

 

[TotalDominAsian]

Oh, by no means was I comparing Rainman's figure value with iminime or Hot Toys. I was comparing Rainman to Rainman since you can't compare figures of different characters fairly!

I was comparing H&C value with Full sets for this release only. And of course I have to give assumptions... but I tried to explain each one clearly. I honestly believe them to be conservative assumptions... but you can just adjust the numbers to your taste and see which Rainman option works best for you! And yes I assume people want the full set items when considering the full set... since they're PAYING for it. Now... you can say I place a premium on the "specialness" of the RM paint job... but if you look at the math, you'll find I didn't even give a $1 value in the pricing. Resale value factors were only talked about in the conclusion, and I never used resale value as a determinant in the price difference. On the EB body... Uhh.... $75 was the going rate for it... I don't see how that's a jacked up eBay price as that's how much it was going for on the commerce forums here.

I'm not trying to say the Full Sets are a must have... I'm just disagreeing that the H&C are an "absolute" steal compared to the other options. They're definitely excellent value if you don't have any value in the fullset exclusives or the dork clothing.

 

[karamazov80]

I got the Jules body from ToyAnxiety for around $50, but was really pointing out that this is an example of the Rainman body being more expensive than usual. I think the Jules fullset is a slightly better deal than usual for that, and the fact that the fullset seems to have 2 accessories the head/outfit version doesn't get. But typically, you are looking around $500 for a head/outfit set (including body--could go up with future releases as Pop said) vs. $820 for a full set. Put all that other stuff I mentioned aside (including resale value), and the head/outfit set is nearly 40% less, for a different paint job, not getting it put together, and losing a (usually non-essential) fullset accessory. I think that is a comparative steal, but reasonable people can disagree on that.

 

[nexus]

I'd still like to see a comparison of Jules and Vincent. I'm concerned Jules will look comparatively gigantic when compared to the TT I've got Vince on. That said, I wonder if Vince should be swapped to an Enterbay or if the suit will be too tight. I've noticed that his head size is larger than most HTs and is closer to the EBs. Tonight I'll put it beside the MIBs for a quick look-see.

 

[karamazov80]

If we're assuming the EB body is unmodified, I think the difference is going to be pretty significant. Maybe HT leg extenders on Vincent would help, but then he's gonna look too tall compared to other figures.

 

[PopCultKid]

If we're assuming the EB body is unmodified, I think the difference is going to be pretty significant. Maybe HT leg extenders on Vincent would help, but then he's gonna look too tall compared to other figures.

That was the one remedy that I had in mind as Vince's pants are a bit too long and they would accomadate that. But as you said, then both will be out of scale with all other figures. Still trying to figure out a win-win way to handle this....

 

[karamazov80]

You can always pose Jules further back in the display, and let forced perspective do its work

 

[DarthMagnus]

I really think theres too much paranoia going on. Lets see what happens and then start flipping out! If Jules turn out to be a miss I know our collective will find a way to bring him to glory. It's proven time and time again. B!7(# BE COOL!!!!

 

[Ajkhunter]

I normally don't voice out on Rainman pieces but Rainman said on his Facebook the drink is "for all set" if that means H&C too that's B.S. it isn't elitism its the fact I shelled out more and believed in the FullSet should just be FS. wow I hope not man.

 

[Wake]

In response to my comment about the awesomeness of the drink!