Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16) *SPOILERS*

[Wor-Gar]

I was born in 1982.

Ohhhhhhh, no wonder....

 

[Khev]

Must of been around 1993 when JP was #1

1982.

SW OT
Jaws
E.T.

I believe the exact rankings were:

1. E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial
2. Star Wars
3. JAWS
4. Return of the Jedi
5. The Empire Strikes Back

Raiders was also in the Top 10. So not even Cameron has ever been the director of three films in the all-time Top 10 (FOUR when JP finally hit.) That alone was accomplished by Spielberg.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

1982.

SW OT
Jaws
E.T.

Raiders was also in the Top 10.

I didn't know the whole SW trilogy was in the top 5, since ESB and ROTJ made less than SW. I figured JP and maybe Raiders were the other ones along with Jaws and E.T.

 

[Wor-Gar]

1982.

SW OT
Jaws
E.T.

Actually Raiders was in the Top 5 for 1981-82 until ET.

Up to ET this was the Top 4 ranking in 1982:

1 Star Wars Fox $307,263,857 1977^
2 Jaws Uni. $260,000,000 1975
3 Raiders of the Lost Ark Par. $209,562,121 1981^
4 The Empire Strikes Back Fox $209,398,025 1980^

So Spielberg alone had 3 of the Top 5. Lucas also had 3 of the Top 5.


Believe it or not, Lucas and Spielberg were very cool at one time. It's like the way kids look at Disney now. They could do no wrong and always won at the box office.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Actually Raiders was in the Top 5 for 1981-82 until ET.

Up to ET this was the Top 4 ranking in 1982:

1 Star Wars Fox $307,263,857 1977^
2 Jaws Uni. $260,000,000 1975
3 Raiders of the Lost Ark Par. $209,562,121 1981^
4 The Empire Strikes Back Fox $209,398,025 1980^

So Spielberg alone had 3 of the Top 5. Lucas also had 3 of the Top 5.

That was domestically , right? What was the global ranking? I know back then the domestic box office was the most important, but that changed eventually.

 

[Khev]

Actually Raiders was in the Top 5 for 1981-82 until ET.

Up to ET this was the Top 4 ranking in 1982:

1 Star Wars Fox $307,263,857 1977^
2 Jaws Uni. $260,000,000 1975
3 Raiders of the Lost Ark Par. $209,562,121 1981^
4 The Empire Strikes Back Fox $209,398,025 1980^

So Spielberg alone had 3 of the Top 5. Lucas also had 3 of the Top 5.

You're right, I said 1982 then put ROTJ (a 1983 film) in instead of Raiders. Lucas had three of the top five but not as director.

Believe it or not, Lucas and Spielberg were very cool at one time. It's like the way kids look at Disney now. They could do no wrong and always won at the box office.

Yep, they shouldn't be forever judged on Greedo shooting first and walkie-talkies.

 

[jye4ever]

Actually Raiders was in the Top 5 for 1981-82 until ET.

Up to ET this was the Top 4 ranking in 1982:

1 Star Wars Fox $307,263,857 1977^
2 Jaws Uni. $260,000,000 1975
3 Raiders of the Lost Ark Par. $209,562,121 1981^
4 The Empire Strikes Back Fox $209,398,025 1980^

So Spielberg alone had 3 of the Top 5. Lucas also had 3 of the Top 5.


Believe it or not, Lucas and Spielberg were very cool at one time. It's like the way kids look at Disney now. They could do no wrong and always won at the box office.

Lucas tanked hard with some duds pre prequel trilogy.

That was domestically , right? What was the global ranking? I know back then the domestic box office was the most important, but that changed eventually.

Global was never discussed back then like it is now.

 

[Wor-Gar]

That was domestically , right? What was the global ranking? I know back then the domestic box office was the most important, but that changed eventually.

Global didn't matter back then. But it was about a third of domestic box office. It started to become more important in the decade that you became self-aware... the 90s.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Lucas tanked hard with some duds pre prequel trilogy..

Didn't he produce that Howard the Duck film?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Didn't he produce that Howard the Duck film?

A foretelling of the PT it was.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

A foretelling of the PT it was.

I don't think Spielberg stopped being "cool." He just hasn't made a culturally relevant film since Saving Private Ryan, but he's only made one really bad film in the last 16 years, Indy4.

I don't know if I ever considered Lucas "cool," I grew up in the 80's and 90's watching the SW films on VHS, but they weren't a big deal for me. I was more into Ghostbusters, Keaton Batman, and Stallone and Arnold films. Indiana Jones was something that I associated more with Spielberg, not Lucas.

 

[Centurion]

Same for me.
It's Lucasfilm property but I associate Indy with Spielberg.

 

[jye4ever]

1941 was a disaster of a release for the mighty Spielberg.


Writer Bob Gale defended the film in a DVD documentary:

It is down in the history books as a big flop, but it wasn't a flop. The movie didn't make the kind of money that Steven's other movies, Steven's most successful movies have made, obviously. But the movie was by no means a flop. And both Universal and Columbia have come out of it just fine.

Spielberg joked at one point that he considered converting 1941 into a musical halfway into production and mused that "in retrospect, that might have helped. In a 1990 interview with British film pundit Barry Norman, Spielberg admitted that the mixed reception to 1941was one of the biggest lessons of his career citing personal arrogance that had gotten in the way after the runaway success of Jaws and Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

He also regretted not ceding control of 1941's action and miniature sequences (such as the Ferris wheel collapse in the film's finale) to second unit directors and model units, something which he would do in his next film, Raiders of the Lost Ark.

He also said "Some people think that was an out-of-control production, but it wasn’t. What happened on the screen was pretty out of control, but the production was pretty much in control. I don’t dislike the movie at all. I’m not embarrassed by it — I just think that it wasn’t funny enough."

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

1941 was a disaster of a release for the mighty Spielberg.

I remember Hook getting bad reviews, but I loved the toy line...and I liked the film

Same for me.
It's Lucasfilm property but I associate Indy with Spielberg.

Yeah, I was aware of Lucas and the SW references in the Indy films, but I just knew Indy was made by the dude wearing the E.T. hat

 

[Khev]

1941 might have been a disaster but Raiders was better for it. Similar to B&R paving the way for BB.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He took responsibility like a man in that article. Member the Twilight Zone film, he directed part of it too. That was a disaster too.

 

[jye4ever]

Kubrick told Spielberg that he made a damn good movie, shame that it wasn't funny though lol.

John Wayne called him unpatriotic for it.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

John Wayne called him unpatriotic for it.

That's like upsetting a deity. Didn't he died in 79? Damn, Spielberg's film finally killed the Duke.

Those were probably his dying words too.

Good thing he died before Spielberg made Always...

 

[Khev]

Rogue One director explains why one of the best trailer moments wasn’t in the movie

https://www.polygon.com/2017/1/6/14195898/rogue-one-star-wars-trailer-jyn-erson

 

[Wor-Gar]

The more I read the more I'm convinced this film was made in the editing room. Sounds like a mess while filming; very little direction.

I'm going to have to credit the editors more than Gareth on this. He can prove me wrong on his next film.