So there IS consistency.
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16) *SPOILERS*
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So there IS consistency.
Ugh, how does this movie even get any mention at all? Why aren't more people ashamed to even reference it? Like, no one refers to Battle Beyond the Stars or Krull anymore. Suicide needs to be wiped from the lexicon.
And why was that Enchantress chick so wiggly and squirmy? She was like a 5-year-old who had to go to the bathroom.
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A-dev please, don't insult me! I already had a built in, irrefutable argument against Khev,
This is what Khev is doing. He loves RO. He has professed this love saying it's one of the great Star Wars movies. Of course he's going to jump around frantically, trying to plug in the holes and tie his movies together. Many years have I wandered these discussion boards, seeing prequel lovers try and connect their beloved episodes I-III to the OT, but to no avail. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now.
Khev's arguments in the case of RO are Wookipedia tier. No doubt about it. Deep down he knows it, I know it, you know it too. "The K-2SO droid is suddenly decommissioned because there was one bad egg!" LOL What a coincidence! Did a compromised weapon in the Empire's arsenal stop them from continued use? No. The Emperor commissioned a second Death Star for Christ's sake, with the same kind of flaws! You're telling me that they're going to stop using such handy K-2SO droids because one got reprogrammed and killed a couple of Stormtroopers? GET OUTTA HERE. It'd be like Skynet halting Terminator production because the first one failed and John Connor reprogrammed one.
It doesn't help that the events of RO take place within minutes of what happens in Star Wars. Atleast the prequel bois have the argument that there's a 19 year gap between ROTS and Star Wars. You could make the claim that the tech wasn't as good and everything got run down in those two decades because the Empire ruined everything. But RO? It's literal minutes before Star Wars. You're telling me that suddenly Mon Mothma and Clarence Boddicker leave Yavin? Suddenly, all the black, asian, mexican, Alien and female rebels we saw in RO couldn't make it to the Yavin celebration? Vader can't force hold Obi-Wan to the ceiling and slash him to death (or stop the hangar doors from closing instead). You're telling me all the droids have regressed to midgets and mime actors in clunky suits? That Princess Leia goes from looking like a soulless monkey to a living breathing person? Did Tarkin suddenly stop wearing his anti-aging, skin smoothing cream and boots and put on slippers or something? Because he's noticeably smoother and shorter than his original counterpart. Why didn't they use that cool ass shield generator that surrounded Scarif on the Death Star!? Imagine that thing orbiting it, Luke, Wedge and Co. would never get past it. Where are my highly efficient Deathtroopers at, why is the Death Star filled with only one kind of trooper class? Why does everything in RO look newer, like a sterile Episode III but with some dirt thrown in/ Okay, so Khev is right, the Empire ceased use of the K-2SO because of what happened with that one anomaly, THEN WHERE THE HELL ARE THEIR DEACTIVATED BODIES IN THE TRASH COMPACTOR?? Oh, there weren't on the Death Star? So wait, the Empire doesn't have their best troopers and droids with their best leaders on their best battle station? Why the hell not??
Khev has no argument. Star Wars is a different (and arguably better) universe than the one featured in RO. Now, I could deflate this amusing discussion and just fall back on the tired and true argument of, "well, t-they're just movies. All of 8 of them are of their time and are fictional, having no bearing on any kind of reality. It's just a movie guy!". But that's boring.
The real answer is, there is no canon where RO connects to Star Wars. In fact, there's no canon at all. These movies take place in different universes with different laws applied to their realities. Hell, here's an example. The Phantom Menace universe doesn't even have Jimmy Smitts as Bail Organa. Leia's father was this dude circa 1999.
Not just that, but Yoda was also looked like a puppet (not unlike how he would look decades later in ESB and ROTJ), droids were droids and R2 didn't have no stinkin' rocket boosters.
So now in his folly, Khev realizes we actually live in a world where TPM is closer to SW, ESB, ROTJ while RO is closer to AOTC and ROTS in terms of any notion of "canon". Sad!
This is what Khev is doing. He loves RO. He has professed this love saying it's one of the great Star Wars movies. Of course he's going to jump around frantically, trying to plug in the holes and tie his movies together. Many years have I wandered these discussion boards, seeing prequel lovers try and connect their beloved episodes I-III to the OT, but to no avail. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now.
Khev's arguments in the case of RO are Wookipedia tier. No doubt about it. Deep down he knows it, I know it, you know it too. "The K-2SO droid is suddenly decommissioned because there was one bad egg!" LOL What a coincidence! Did a compromised weapon in the Empire's arsenal stop them from continued use? No. The Emperor commissioned a second Death Star for Christ's sake, with the same kind of flaws! You're telling me that they're going to stop using such handy K-2SO droids because one got reprogrammed and killed a couple of Stormtroopers? GET OUTTA HERE. It'd be like Skynet halting Terminator production because the first one failed and John Connor reprogrammed one.
It doesn't help that the events of RO take place within minutes of what happens in Star Wars. Atleast the prequel bois have the argument that there's a 19 year gap between ROTS and Star Wars. You could make the claim that the tech wasn't as good and everything got run down in those two decades because the Empire ruined everything. But RO? It's literal minutes before Star Wars. You're telling me that suddenly Mon Mothma and Clarence Boddicker leave Yavin? Suddenly, all the black, asian, mexican, Alien and female rebels we saw in RO couldn't make it to the Yavin celebration? Vader can't force hold Obi-Wan to the ceiling and slash him to death (or stop the hangar doors from closing instead). You're telling me all the droids have regressed to midgets and mime actors in clunky suits? That Princess Leia goes from looking like a soulless monkey to a living breathing person? Did Tarkin suddenly stop wearing his anti-aging, skin smoothing cream and boots and put on slippers or something? Because he's noticeably smoother and shorter than his original counterpart. Why didn't they use that cool ass shield generator that surrounded Scarif on the Death Star!? Imagine that thing orbiting it, Luke, Wedge and Co. would never get past it. Where are my highly efficient Deathtroopers at, why is the Death Star filled with only one kind of trooper class? Why does everything in RO look newer, like a sterile Episode III but with some dirt thrown in/ Okay, so Khev is right, the Empire ceased use of the K-2SO because of what happened with that one anomaly, THEN WHERE THE HELL ARE THEIR DEACTIVATED BODIES IN THE TRASH COMPACTOR?? Oh, there weren't on the Death Star? So wait, the Empire doesn't have their best troopers and droids with their best leaders on their best battle station? Why the hell not??
Khev has no argument. Star Wars is a different (and arguably better) universe than the one featured in RO. Now, I could deflate this amusing discussion and just fall back on the tired and true argument of, "well, t-they're just movies. All of 8 of them are of their time and are fictional, having no bearing on any kind of reality. It's just a movie guy!". But that's boring.
The real answer is, there is no canon where RO connects to Star Wars. In fact, there's no canon at all. These movies take place in different universes with different laws applied to their realities. Hell, here's an example. The Phantom Menace universe doesn't even have Jimmy Smitts as Bail Organa. Leia's father was this dude circa 1999.
Not just that, but Yoda was also looked like a puppet (not unlike how he would look decades later in ESB and ROTJ), droids were droids and R2 didn't have no stinkin' rocket boosters.
So now in his folly, Khev realizes we actually live in a world where TPM is closer to SW, ESB, ROTJ while RO is closer to AOTC and ROTS in terms of any notion of "canon". Sad!
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I just can't....even breath...CLAWS!
I have died and went to lol heaven.
Memba Grievous's spider walk lol
K2SO sure was effective taking out all those troopers in that hallway.
In Jedha he even flicked a grenade without looking and took more out lol
That being said I do think Khev has done a great job explaining away the droid-atat discrepancies.
I mean good enough that it does allow the new movies to be enjoyed without the need for major forgiveness on our end.
RO did a good enough job presenting the lived in world.
Lucas said that years of the Empire took its toll on infrastructure hence the PT being all new and shiny.
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A-dev please, don't insult me! I already had a built in, irrefutable argument against Khev,
This is what Khev is doing. He loves RO. He's professed this love saying it's one of the great Star Wars movies. Of course he's going to jump around frantically, trying to plug in the holes and tie his movies together. Many years have I wandered these discussion boards, seeing prequel lovers try and connect their beloved episodes I-III to the OT, but to no avail. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now.
Khev's arguments in the case of RO are Wookipedia tier. No doubt about it. Deep down he knows it, I know it, you know it too. "The K-2SO droid is suddenly decommissioned because there was one bad egg!" LOL What a coincidence! Did a compromised weapon in the Empire's arsenal stop them from continued use? No. The Emperor commissioned a second Death Star for Christ's sake, with the same kind of flaws! You're telling me that they're going to stop using such handy K-2SO droids because one got reprogrammed and killed a couple of Stormtroopers? GET OUTTA HERE. It'd be like Skynet halting Terminator production because the first one failed and John Connor reprogrammed one.
It doesn't help that the events of RO take place within minutes of what happens in Star Wars. Atleast the prequels bois have the argument that there's a 19 year gap between ROTS and Star Wars. You could make the claim that the tech wasn't as good and everything got run down in those two decades because the Empire ruined everything. But RO? It's literal minutes before Star Wars. You're telling me that suddenly Mon Mothma and Clarence Boddicker leave Yavin? Suddenly, all the black, asian, mexican, Alien and female rebels we saw in RO couldn't make it to the Yavin celebration? Vader can't force hold Obi-Wan to the ceiling and slash him to death (or stop the hangar doors from closing instead). You're telling me all the droids have regressed to midgets and mime actors in clunky suits? That Princess Leia goes from looking like a soulless monkey to a living breathing person? Did Tarkin suddenly stop wearing his anti-aging, skin smoothing cream and boots and put on slippers or something? Because he's noticeably smoother and shorter than his original counterpart. Why didn't they use that cool ass shield generator that surrounded Scarif on the Death Star!? Imagine that thing orbiting it, Luke, Wedge and Co. would never get past it. Where are my highly efficient Deathtroopers at, why is the Death Star filled with only one kind of trooper class? Why does everything in RO look newer, like a sterile Episode III but with some dirt thrown in/ Okay, so Khev is right, the Empire ceased use of the K-2SO because of what happened with that one anomaly, THEN WHERE THE HELL ARE THEIR DEACTIVATED BODIES IN THE TRASH COMPACTOR?? Oh, there weren't on the Death Star? So wait, the Empire doesn't have their best troopers and droids with their best leaders on their best battle station? Why the hell not??
Khev has no argument. Star Wars is a different (and arguably better) universe than the one featured in RO. Now, I could deflate this amusing discussion and just fall back on the tired and true argument of, "well, t-they're just movies. All of 8 of them are of their time and are fictional, having no bearing on any kind of reality. It's just a movie guy!". But that's boring.
The real answer is, there is no canon where RO connects to Star Wars. In fact, there's no canon at all. These movies take place in different universes with different laws applied to their realities. Hell, here's an example. The Phantom Menace universe doesn't even have Jimmy Smitts as Bail Organa. Leia's father was this dude circa 1999.
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Not just that, but Yoda was also looked like a puppet (not unlike how he would look decades later in ESB and ROTJ), droids were droids and R2 didn't have no stinkin' rocket boosters.
So now in his folly, Khev realizes we actually live in a world where TPM is closer to SW, ESB, ROTJ while RO is closer to AOTC and ROTS in terms of any notion of "canon". Sad!
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Ok maybe Khev hasn't done a good job lol.
Sorry Khev you've just been pwned my tall handsome friend lol
I fear that the "minutes apart" from RO to ANH is just too damaging for even the mighty Khev to bounce back from.
Maybe Disney will pull a Lucas and go back into the OT, yank out all of Lucas' changes, and start putting K2SO droids in the background instead. I'd prefer to see that to Rontos.
Of course, this retcon would have to take place after just about every prequel film.
Of course, this retcon would have to take place after just about every prequel film.
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Alien vs Terminator, Star Wars style.
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C'mon Wor-Gar you RO loving slut admit it...DiFabio is right.
Welcome to DiFabio America......
Get that guy outta here!
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As long as I get a Zuckuss and 4-LOM: A Star Wars story buddy movie first, I'd be fine with this.
Right about what? That the Star Wars film released in 2027 won't fit in logically with the OT because it won't have any white people? Yes, I agree.
We'll all be gray.
We'll all be gray.
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Get this guy outta here....enemy of the OT state...remove him.
Good good...lol
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Well hey now, that would only apply to prequels. Sequels or anything that comes after the OT are fair game. After all, Luke Skywalker is TLWG.
You'll be gray... and you'll be gray! You'll all be GRAY!!!
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A-dev please, don't insult me! I already had a built in, irrefutable argument against Khev,
This is what Khev is doing. He loves RO. He has professed this love saying it's one of the great Star Wars movies. Of course he's going to jump around frantically, trying to plug in the holes and tie his movies together. Many years have I wandered these discussion boards, seeing prequel lovers try and connect their beloved episodes I-III to the OT, but to no avail. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now.
Khev's arguments in the case of RO are Wookipedia tier. No doubt about it. Deep down he knows it, I know it, you know it too. "The K-2SO droid is suddenly decommissioned because there was one bad egg!" LOL What a coincidence! Did a compromised weapon in the Empire's arsenal stop them from continued use? No. The Emperor commissioned a second Death Star for Christ's sake, with the same kind of flaws! You're telling me that they're going to stop using such handy K-2SO droids because one got reprogrammed and killed a couple of Stormtroopers? GET OUTTA HERE. It'd be like Skynet halting Terminator production because the first one failed and John Connor reprogrammed one.
It doesn't help that the events of RO take place within minutes of what happens in Star Wars. Atleast the prequel bois have the argument that there's a 19 year gap between ROTS and Star Wars. You could make the claim that the tech wasn't as good and everything got run down in those two decades because the Empire ruined everything. But RO? It's literal minutes before Star Wars. You're telling me that suddenly Mon Mothma and Clarence Boddicker leave Yavin? Suddenly, all the black, asian, mexican, Alien and female rebels we saw in RO couldn't make it to the Yavin celebration? Vader can't force hold Obi-Wan to the ceiling and slash him to death (or stop the hangar doors from closing instead). You're telling me all the droids have regressed to midgets and mime actors in clunky suits? That Princess Leia goes from looking like a soulless monkey to a living breathing person? Did Tarkin suddenly stop wearing his anti-aging, skin smoothing cream and boots and put on slippers or something? Because he's noticeably smoother and shorter than his original counterpart. Why didn't they use that cool ass shield generator that surrounded Scarif on the Death Star!? Imagine that thing orbiting it, Luke, Wedge and Co. would never get past it. Where are my highly efficient Deathtroopers at, why is the Death Star filled with only one kind of trooper class? Why does everything in RO look newer, like a sterile Episode III but with some dirt thrown in/ Okay, so Khev is right, the Empire ceased use of the K-2SO because of what happened with that one anomaly, THEN WHERE THE HELL ARE THEIR DEACTIVATED BODIES IN THE TRASH COMPACTOR?? Oh, there weren't on the Death Star? So wait, the Empire doesn't have their best troopers and droids with their best leaders on their best battle station? Why the hell not??
Khev has no argument. Star Wars is a different (and arguably better) universe than the one featured in RO. Now, I could deflate this amusing discussion and just fall back on the tired and true argument of, "well, t-they're just movies. All of 8 of them are of their time and are fictional, having no bearing on any kind of reality. It's just a movie guy!". But that's boring.
The real answer is, there is no canon where RO connects to Star Wars. In fact, there's no canon at all. These movies take place in different universes with different laws applied to their realities. Hell, here's an example. The Phantom Menace universe doesn't even have Jimmy Smitts as Bail Organa. Leia's father was this dude circa 1999.
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Not just that, but Yoda was also looked like a puppet (not unlike how he would look decades later in ESB and ROTJ), droids were droids and R2 didn't have no stinkin' rocket boosters.
So now in his folly, Khev realizes we actually live in a world where TPM is closer to SW, ESB, ROTJ while RO is closer to AOTC and ROTS in terms of any notion of "canon". Sad!
may the force be with you, khev.
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Dayum. DiFabio had something special planned for us. He only needed to keep us from escaping.
Awesome post.
But still, what it boils down to for me is - I enjoyed Rogue One, I think it was a very good film. Therefore I don't want to think about it in such a way as you do Lucas's PT, yes, I don't like it so every inconsistency just annoys me and I won't even try to come up with rationale for how things fit - and the ones I've heard from other people don't tend to change my mind because so many aspects of those films are bad to a point of distraction.
Awesome post.
But still, what it boils down to for me is - I enjoyed Rogue One, I think it was a very good film. Therefore I don't want to think about it in such a way as you do
Lucas's PT, yes, I don't like it so every inconsistency just annoys me and I won't even try to come up with rationale for how things fit - and the ones I've heard from other people don't tend to change my mind because so many aspects of those films are bad to a point of distraction.
*shocked gasp*
A popcorn gif....? I thought those were illegal and garnered an immediate suspension?
A popcorn gif....? I thought those were illegal and garnered an immediate suspension?
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difabio made khev log off.
i bet he's crying while watching RO to recoup.
i bet he's crying while watching RO to recoup.
difabio made khev log off.
i bet he's crying while watching RO to recoup.
Khev is easily startled but he'll soon be back...and in greater numbers
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