Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16) *SPOILERS*

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Dayum. DiFabio had something special planned for us. He only needed to keep us from escaping. :lol

Awesome post.

But still, what it boils down to for me is - I enjoyed Rogue One, I think it was a very good film. Therefore I don't want to think about it in such a way as you do :lol Lucas's PT, yes, I don't like it so every inconsistency just annoys me and I won't even try to come up with rationale for how things fit - and the ones I've heard from other people don't tend to change my mind because so many aspects of those films are bad to a point of distraction.

And there lies the silver bullet to DiFabio's suffering.

PT are crap therefore no amount of explanation will save them, not even worth wasting our breath.

RO was thrilling and fun, Khev's rationale are good enough to enjoy RO.

Khev has been saved from the cynical ravages of DiFabio's funny albeit black heart lol
 
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difabio made khev log off.

i bet he's crying while watching RO to recoup. :lol

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Khev is easily startled but he'll soon be back...and in greater numbers

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Truth be told, I was on my phone making that big ass post and wasn't paying attention to my battery percentage. I go and google a pic of that Bail Organa, and not only did my tabs get scrubbed when I went back to the post page, but my phone shut off. :lol

I wrote all that crap, only for it to disappear.

Thankfully when I plugged it back in and got it charging, I had the "Restore-Autosaved Content" option. Had that not worked (a lot of times, that option won't even pop up oddly enough), I would have just said **** it and posted a meme or something.


And there lies the silver bullet to DiFabio's suffering.

PT are crap therefore no amount of explanation will save them, not even worth wasting our breath.

RO was thrilling and fun, Khev's rationale are good enough to enjoy RO.

Khev has been saved from the cynical ravages of DiFabio's funny albeit black heart lol



Nah, Khev is waaaaay too OCD for that, like most of us here really. This Star Wars **** has GOT to make sense to him. Remember those long rants of his about Darth Vader just pretending to suck against Obi-Wan in their duel so it matched up with RO? Yeah, the boy is in this DEEP. I merely took advantage of his position.

But a-dev is right. If you love something enough, you can simply disregard those inconsistencies and merely swat away the little nagging DiFabio's that bring them up. I still remember arguing with some twat on rebelscum about droids or some ****. It was the same deal. Swap this guy with Khev, the prequels with RO and the battle droids with K2SO. I was much like I am now, "rah, rah, rah, prequels too advanced, doesn't match the OT, not canon, rah, rah" and this dude pulls out this long rant about how it all makes sense and backed it up with some BS about how "that's why Wuher the bartender wouldn't let C-3PO into the cantina" and "Hurr durr, the Clone Wars made people prejudice against droids and all the advanced ones were shut down and people were afraid of crappy common ones too".

Khev does the same thing, which makes the "Prequel Denier" thing all the more ironic. :lol
 
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I actually would LOVE to see Disney at least remove that SE Jabba scene from ANH (the most offensive SE scene that totally doesn't hold up in any way), and add a K-2SO type droid in the background somewhere when Luke and Ben are walking to the hangar.
 
Or make it so that Han is talking to K-2SO instead of Jabba! Make K-2SO the leader of the bounty hunters now. K2SO would totally say something like "why did you have to fry poor Greedo" and you wouldn't have to worry about no tail for Ford to walk over neither.

Two birds, one stone.
 
Sooooooo..... K-2 is Jabba now?

Maybe they should have K-2 simply peeking around a corner in like 5 easter egg shots in all 3 OT films. Find 'em all and you win.... nothing. But it would be funny.

For example, way down the hall during the prison break scene... a little head peaks out and then quietly receeds.
 
There are multiple K2SO's so Disney could utilize all of our ideas. They should hire us, maybe IrishJedi can get us a some work ther-

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Truth be told, I was on my phone making that big ass post and wasn't paying attention to my battery percentage. I go and google a pic of that Bail Organa, and not only did my tabs get scrubbed when I went back to the post page, but my phone shut off. :lol

I wrote all that crap, only for it to disappear.

Thankfully when I plugged it back in and got it charging, I had the "Restore-Autosaved Content" option. Had that not worked (a lot of times, that option won't even pop up oddly enough), I would have just said **** it and posted a meme or something.

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Yeah I've found the auto-save thing to be entirely random. I can type one word and it'll auto save it immediately. Other times I can type an entire post and nothing saves.

I actually would LOVE to see Disney at least remove that SE Jabba scene from ANH (the most offensive SE scene that totally doesn't hold up in any way), and add a K-2SO type droid in the background somewhere when Luke and Ben are walking to the hangar.

Agreed. Terrible scene. Jarringly repeats the Greedo dialogue almost word for word, looks awful and severely undermines Jabba by having Han step on him - how blatantly disrespectful can you get?! Isn't Han supposed to be afraid of this thing?
 
Jabba, you're a wonderful human being.


"B-b-but, that was just a joke on Han's part! He was just being sarcastic because Jabba is a space slug and not human." - alternate universe, prequel/SE lovin' Khev
 
Agreed. Terrible scene. Jarringly repeats the Greedo dialogue almost word for word, looks awful and severely undermines Jabba by having Han step on him - how blatantly disrespectful can you get?! Isn't Han supposed to be afraid of this thing?

Also undermines the suspense of seeing what Jabba ultimately looks like. That was such a great reveal back in the day. Waiting 6 years to finally see the mighty Jabba.
 
I'm sure there's some kind of in-universe explanation why suddenly droids, Vader, troopers, starships, and weapons are suddenly so primitive, but it's all fan boy nonsense. Why the hell didn't the Empire use those bigger, faster moving ACT-AT's on Hoth instead of the slower pieces of **** they used? Remember when Baze shoots the thing's head with the launcher and it goes all Terminator and shoots it's head back in defiance? ****, a move like that would take General Veers an hour to configure and complete. :lol

Luke Skywalker had the more advance mechanical hand with "real looking flesh and Nerves" So there is that.

I never knew the ACT-AT's were faster then the AT-AT's How do we know that? Anyways if True I thought Khev's explanation was perfectly valid.

As for the Droids and the Empire not using them... Well the droids shown themselves to be no match against a human army or Jedi's in the PT. KTSO type robots were easily reprogramed to work against the Empire... So why have that sort of technology?

Anyways that is what I always assumed.

As for everything looking used and old in the OT... Well we spent most of our time with a poor farm boy and the Rebels who were always in hiding. the Empire always had shiny new things yet it's still militarized and thus cold and less enviting. Once you got to a site that was not a Rebel base, a gangsters home, a bar, or a farm then things looked a bit more PT. Baspin looked great. Mon Mothma's meeting room where they discuss the plans for the 2nd Death Star looks pretty advance and nice. I think it's actually on a Mon Calamari ship.


Having said all that... I do wish Lucas had the PT look a bit more lived in.. But it was a more Civilized age.
 
True dat about that skin. He's got that fancy schmancy cloned Terminator skin. Probably the most advanced thing about the OT has over the 4 prequels. Which is why I don't get why Luke has some prequel looking CGI Anakin hand in The Force Awakens.

But like his lightsaber that was lost in Bespin and suddenly found in a little orange things chest under a bar, maybe it's just a story for another time!
 
Surely it's the same fan boy mental gymnastics that even the most ardent Prequel fan uses to tie the prequels to the original films.

This is what Khev is doing. *snip DiFabio's rant to one of his OWN posts*

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But dang it I hate when I miss pages of comedic posts. Good stuff. What am I to do at this point? Go line by line to debunk those criticisms?

The nice thing about Star Wars is that you can never "lose" a debate like this. I'll either come up with a perfectly sound in-world explanation on any given topic or I get to write off some discrepancy as just another one of those lovable SW absurdities that we all willingly accept. My line in the sand is usually "is this plot hole or continuity error any worse than ones I've already accepted in the OT, especially SW and ESB?" If the answer is no then I don't worry about it.

I mean none of these movies are The Imitation Game (except maybe TFA. Get it? Guffaw!) and therefore their primary reason for existing isn't to artistically convey real world events that can all be fact checked and substantiated.

AT-ACT's are lightly armed and armored. AT-AT's have armor so thick that direct hits from vehicular weapons and land based artillery don't take them down, even when hitting a knee joint.

Alliance Base personnel never continue from one film to the next. Dodonna wasn't at Echo Base, General Rieekan wasn't on Home One, Mothma and Madine weren't at the Resistance Base. "But ANH was minutes after RO!" Well the opening of the movie was. But by the time everyone got back to Yavin obviously more time had passed. And RO even gave an out for such questions. When the one communications officer overheard talk of a Rebel incursion on Scarif did he turn to Draven and say "Rebels on Scarif!" That's what they had been doing all throughout the movie until that time. But no instead he sprinted *outside* to find Mon Mothma. Implication? General Draven had already left. And Mothma was standing out on the starship launch pads, so apparently she was about to leave too.

All easy stuff for a fan to hand wave away.

If you don't like K-2's being decommissioned (which makes the most sense to me. Who says that K2-SO was the first to be used against the Empire? He could have been the last straw for all we know) then just pretend they're off screen in the OT. "But Khev! That's preposterous! We would have seen them!" Really? Did we see *every single* K-2 droid on Jedha or Scarif? Highly doubtful. But there were others around and we just accept it.

Why did Tarkin and Leia go from CG characters to real people? Really? Am I supposed to take that seriously? I'm guessing that you're *hoping* I will, but I'm not taking the bait. :)

Rogue One fits with the OT just as well as Vader becoming Luke's dad (when he clearly wasn't in ANH) and Leia conveniently becoming his sister. Lots of "close, but not quite" fits in continuity that are either done well (Vader as Luke's father and all of RO) or not so much (twin Leia.)

You can try and take down RO, but it ain't happening. You'll never win. You think the destructive power of your posts has unlimited potential but in the end you'll just be nuked by your own points.

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difabio made khev log off.

i bet he's crying while watching RO to recoup. :lol

Khev is easily startled but he'll soon be back...and in greater numbers

Hilarious! Love it! :lol :clap

You're so right on the crying to watch RO though. My mother is visiting from out of state for a week and the last few nights after the kids have gone to bed we've been binging "The Crown" on Netflix. A decent show, I'm getting my culture on and all that but man, I keep sitting there eyeballing the RO blu-ray on the shelf and can almost hear Palpatine saying "you want this..."
 
3/10 Khev. Disappointing. I expected better. You mostly just repeated yourself and did more stretching than Mr. Fantastic. You also lack that personal touch that all my posts have. Admit it son, you're no better than the staunchest Prequel supporter with your feeble fan fiction.

If you consider yourself the Tarkin of these discussions, then I'm the Emperor, *****! You got three movies and two of them you're not even the real Peter Cushing. Me? I just got one movie where I'm a chick with orangutan eyes. OUT OUT OUT



DiFabio you would make an excellent vampire or serial killer, no one can suck the life out of something better than you lol


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Pfft, merely a distraction. What you just said, tell that to this guy,


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