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i hope that lil dude transforms into something more visually appealing. But i gotta feeling his style will be the 'ol "imma poke you with just my finger & you're KO'd" that Beerus popularized for the last few years now. I'm getting a Chiaozu vibe from him

Yeah that's what I'm hoping for too. I absolutely hate the design. Just another one of Tori's "funny" characters. If he's gonna be stronger than Goku, he better look it too. As of now, he's so unattractive to look at. I was expecting a badass mofo but we get this. Is it wrong that I wanna root for Universe 6 lol


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I stopped watching Super because it's ****ing awful. I'll check it out again when funi does a dub, but right now, I just can't anymore. The best current db media being produced is the tfs dubs, let's be honest.
Yeah, and it has probably been like that for the last few years
 
Yeah that's what I'm hoping for too. I absolutely hate the design. Just another one of Tori's "funny" characters. If he's gonna be stronger than Goku, he better look it too. As of now, he's so unattractive to look at. I was expecting a badass mofo but we get this. Is it wrong that I wanna root for Universe 6 lol


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at this point it would be better if he would just canonize Broly :dance
great premise, lame character motivations, and a huge wasted opportunity of an awesome design

edit: in fact Broly should've been Champa's champion on his side of the universe. Would've made perfect sense! And a unique way to "redeem" & canonize his character!
 
Speaking of which, did you see Toei had the nerve to flag half their videos for copyright? To me they have no right in doing so; they make no money off it, it falls under fair use! Looks like someone needs to give Toei a kicking.

That's, perhaps unfortunately to some, not how copyright works. They distribute Toei's content with no other goal than the original content had (less goals, but not a different one). That is, to my knowledge, undeniable a violation of copyright law. I honestly do not understand how they managed to keep it up as long as they have.

Note though that this explanation does not particularly reflect my own opinion on the matter. Frankly, it sucks. But I see no legal ground for TFS to take here...


As for ssj4, overall, most people here probably have seen I'm not a GT fan, particularly also not the designs. However, I will say that I have always really liked ssj5 (oor ssj4?) Gogeta. On that note, I would've liked ssj4 a LOT more if the hair was entirely red like Gogetas. The red fur with the black hair is just weird and ugly to me.

I actually do not think as it is ssj4 looks better than ssb. I like the fact that essentially, the eye color becomes the entire color. I also liked ssj God because the hair resembled the color of planet Vegeta. (I do however, think it should've been called saiyan God, and than ssj God, which would validate the color structure more imo). I sortof like that from a gold hair with that spark of godly power in their eye color, completely evolving into their entire appearance. (Admitting that ssj eye color always seems a tad hint more greenish than ssb's color.) Also, I'm ot a fan of the fur idea in general, BUT if you were to implement it, than at least make it the same color as the head's hair.

What I would've liked most, probably, is if SSB simply had the ssj4 hair scheme. If any of the gifted animaters lurking here could perhaps fashion a picture of that (so ssb but with the hair shape of ssj4, instead of normal ssj), I'd love to see how that turns out.

But, I think we all know Toriyama is very busy with keeping things simple and brand recognition is a part of that. Hence we get blue ssj's...

To all those liking GT, designs, or plot, or both. Fair enough. I really dislike it. But DBS is reaching a point where I'd might even rather watch DBGT. And that's saying something. I won't be hating on GT anymore though. (I thik I've ignored the topic for a big while now if it ever came up iirc.) Aside from purely personal preferences. It's useless,e everyone's allowed to like what they like and hating on people for it is dumb (I do not exclude myself from past behavior like this).

And anyone who says anything sucks 'because it isn't canon' is an idiot.
 
at this point it would be better if he would just canonize Broly :dance
great premise, lame character motivations, and a huge wasted opportunity of an awesome design

edit: in fact Broly should've been Champa's champion on his side of the universe. Would've made perfect sense! And a unique way to "redeem" & canonize his character!

That would've been a great way to bring the character into the fold. In U6 they could tweak his stupid background story for one. Yeah if there was ANY character the mirror it would've been Broly, totally. Reused and yet new to the series. They could even leave the movie out of canon, and simply say that this is a legend vegeta heard about but they never came across it in U7. And the movie becomes a 'what if?'. Would love that.
 
If they're gonna canonize any movie characters it should be Broly and Cooler. Broly just cause he's cool (aside from his pathetic excuse for a backstory). Cooler cuz he's Frieza's brother duh. Turles would've been neat too. I always liked him and with the whole alternate universe thing going, he could've fit right in as evil Goku. I'm sure they could've figured out a great way to keep the characters essentially the same but improve on their weaknesses and fit them neatly into the current universe. None of this would ever happen though...only in the minds of fans will it remain.
 
since we're on the subject, I still think we need another Broly figuart

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it's easy money Tamashii :monkey4
 
Seeing a huge "Saiyan War" would be awesome. Hopefully that is spun into one of the upcoming arcs...

I can see it now. Champa wins the tournament cuz nips mcgee lactates erratically, slips falling off the stage, dq'ing himself. Champa then has all the Super Dragon Balls and wishes for all the evil Saiyans to be wished back into Universe 7 to wreak havoc. Goku and Vegeta then have to step up and defeat their brethren while Gohan sits in a corner reading bedtime stories to baby Pan.
 
Any one ever think that maybe that kid saiyan from universe 6 is broly? Think about a kid like that having "legendary" powers and fighting goku. Keep broly's background but change it to where he killed baby goku for making him cry. Then instead of frieza, he (kid broly) killed all the saiyans.


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Speaking of which, did you see Toei had the nerve to flag half their videos for copyright? To me they have no right in doing so; they make no money off it, it falls under fair use! Looks like someone needs to give Toei a kicking.

Totally agreed.

If they're gonna canonize any movie characters it should be Broly and Cooler.

Broly should be canonized so his history can be rewritten. Brilliant villain, awful backstory.

I can see it now. Champa wins the tournament cuz nips mcgee lactates erratically, slips falling off the stage, dq'ing himself. Champa then has all the Super Dragon Balls and wishes for all the evil Saiyans to be wished back into Universe 7 to wreak havoc. Goku and Vegeta then have to step up and defeat their brethren while Gohan sits in a corner reading bedtime stories to baby Pan.

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Seeing this pattern maybe he'll have his moment in universe 6?


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When Pickles got killed by Frieza, I was expecting Gohan to go rage mode but instead he fainted :mad:

All I can think of is since that tragic event, Gohan realized he had become a sorry sack o crap and decided to dedicate himself back to training. Maybe when Goku and Vegeta finish up with the tournament and head back to Earth, we see a new and improved Gohan. That's a great possibility but honestly the way it's been going, I don't think Tori's gonna go that way. He means to end Gohan completely. Physically, emotionally, and psychologically :monkey4
 
I wish they just did it how it was in the movie. Gohan gets a quick and painless ko. Instead they extended it and demolished his character completely. He didn't deserve this!

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What most people don't know is that Goku contracted the heart virus at that very moment and Sorbet noticed it and shot the virus right out of him, hence Goku being knocked out. The more you know.


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Seeing a huge "Saiyan War" would be awesome. Hopefully that is spun into one of the upcoming arcs...
That would also make an amazing display :lecture but that would be so awesome to see. Seeing them in their different strongest forms would be cool as well, to show the differences and so on
 
waitaminute, did i miss something?

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Saiyans. plural

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unless that spikey-haired dude on the bottom is a saiyan then we were lied to. or it was just a mistranslation. or Champa still has a few more tricks up his sleeve, cuz them other dudes definitely don't look like Saiyans to me
 
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