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Kaijuboy
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Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
Tis good point!
I always forget that these will be "unlimited" editions. That way one can easily set aside a little or so each month without fear of sell-out. And not have to worry about NRD, and you'll get to see others pictures of it to fully decide, and you might even be able to get one off ebay/forums for less if someone has buyers remorse.
Tis good point!
I always forget that these will be "unlimited" editions. That way one can easily set aside a little or so each month without fear of sell-out. And not have to worry about NRD, and you'll get to see others pictures of it to fully decide, and you might even be able to get one off ebay/forums for less if someone has buyers remorse.
DaveMac
Super Freak
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
Did you say something?
(eyes fixed on avatar
and unable to lie!)
Unlimited editions are great for me at the moment as I'm a limited to what to go for with so many great pieces coming out on the LOTR front. Don't think i will ever go for this piece in particular (have the SS/W to go with the others in that line), but if the rumored CT is in this format and not PF, then my piggy's getting stuffed!!! .... in a nice way
Did you say something?
(eyes fixed on avatar
and unable to lie!)Unlimited editions are great for me at the moment as I'm a limited to what to go for with so many great pieces coming out on the LOTR front. Don't think i will ever go for this piece in particular (have the SS/W to go with the others in that line), but if the rumored CT is in this format and not PF, then my piggy's getting stuffed!!! .... in a nice way
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
Price will help it stay a bit but obviously saving money and how they let you stretch it out will be an issue.
I did.
Price will help it stay a bit but obviously saving money and how they let you stretch it out will be an issue.
I did.
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
I don't think so. If they use some metal and you out that with the level of detail this should have its going to be much expensive.
I don't think so. If they use some metal and you out that with the level of detail this should have its going to be much expensive.
DaveMac
Super Freak
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
The armour was covered in ruins or engravings and at this scale, they should be be there in detail.
Scary a** thing to be towering out
The armour was covered in ruins or engravings and at this scale, they should be be there in detail.
Scary a** thing to be towering out
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
would love to have this, won't happen though. I will settle for the RWOS for a much cheaper price. Those 2 together with the witch king pf would be an insane trio to display though. I'm gonna have to buy the print so I can imagine I have the statue
would love to have this, won't happen though. I will settle for the RWOS for a much cheaper price. Those 2 together with the witch king pf would be an insane trio to display though. I'm gonna have to buy the print so I can imagine I have the statue
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
it's only 1/4, putting it at the same height as the RWOS, so it won't be crazy huge, but the details should be insane.
The armour was covered in ruins or engravings and at this scale, they should be be there in detail.
Scary a** thing to be towering out
it's only 1/4, putting it at the same height as the RWOS, so it won't be crazy huge, but the details should be insane.
gagaliya
Super Freak
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
you can always cancel your berserker pred and order this instead
would love to have this, won't happen though. I will settle for the RWOS for a much cheaper price. Those 2 together with the witch king pf would be an insane trio to display though. I'm gonna have to buy the print so I can imagine I have the statue
you can always cancel your berserker pred and order this instead
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
Predator> LOTR>Alien. Hopefully the big chap maquette will increase in price over the next few years, so I can replace him with this
. I would lose $190 if I cancelled anyways
Predator> LOTR>Alien. Hopefully the big chap maquette will increase in price over the next few years, so I can replace him with this
. I would lose $190 if I cancelled anyways
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
This is just me completely speculating, but no way will this be less than $2K.
The thing about the LSF line is ... the price point seems to be more about status than what things cost to produce.
I could be totally wrong, but they seem to be after a kind of street cred that selling really expensive "high-end" things gets you.
It seems to me they're after a different "class" of collector with these. The kind of folks who drive fancier cars, live in fancier houses and drink fancier drinks than I do. The kind of folks who see a high price tag as a status symbol.
$2K for these statues seems seriously inflated to me. (Let's face it, doubling the size of a PF probably doesn't really mean their production costs jump up nearly seven times.) But the inflated price may actually be the point here.
What if the high pricetag is actually meant to be the draw? The kind of thing that would actually appeal to that particular audience?
So I think that's why $2K is the standard price for LSFs, no matter what. Unless they decide to raise it later. But no way does it go down.
(The only reason Neytiri was cheaper, I think, is because she was released before the line was launched. If she was released today, I bet she'd be $2K as well.)
That's just my read of the situation. And it makes me sad.
Just my two cents.
This is just me completely speculating, but no way will this be less than $2K.
The thing about the LSF line is ... the price point seems to be more about status than what things cost to produce.
I could be totally wrong, but they seem to be after a kind of street cred that selling really expensive "high-end" things gets you.
It seems to me they're after a different "class" of collector with these. The kind of folks who drive fancier cars, live in fancier houses and drink fancier drinks than I do. The kind of folks who see a high price tag as a status symbol.
$2K for these statues seems seriously inflated to me. (Let's face it, doubling the size of a PF probably doesn't really mean their production costs jump up nearly seven times.) But the inflated price may actually be the point here.
What if the high pricetag is actually meant to be the draw? The kind of thing that would actually appeal to that particular audience?
So I think that's why $2K is the standard price for LSFs, no matter what. Unless they decide to raise it later. But no way does it go down.
(The only reason Neytiri was cheaper, I think, is because she was released before the line was launched. If she was released today, I bet she'd be $2K as well.)
That's just my read of the situation. And it makes me sad.
Just my two cents.
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
yep, I agree with all of that. Just compare it to the RWOS pf. Sauron will be the same height, maybe have a little more mixed media, but that doesn't justify almost 3x the price difference when including shipping. Neytiri and IM are a little cheaper cause the line didn't exist when those were released.
yep, I agree with all of that. Just compare it to the RWOS pf. Sauron will be the same height, maybe have a little more mixed media, but that doesn't justify almost 3x the price difference when including shipping. Neytiri and IM are a little cheaper cause the line didn't exist when those were released.
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
Though, honestly, I shouldn't act surprised. This is a trajectory that Sideshow has been on since they started. They've kind of always been headed this way. They've kind of always been reaching for that demographic. They've been steadily raising their game, year after year. I mean, in the beginning, they were selling little plastic, glow-in-the-dark mini-figures. Really simple, inexpensive stuff. It was rare when you saw something on their site for more than $50 bucks.
Then the 12" figures started getting better. Then 1:6 statues. Then maquettes and comiquettes. Then PFs. Then 1:1 busts. Now LSFs. And the occasional 1:1 full statue ...
I just hope they don't one day entirely pass me by.
Though, honestly, I shouldn't act surprised. This is a trajectory that Sideshow has been on since they started. They've kind of always been headed this way. They've kind of always been reaching for that demographic. They've been steadily raising their game, year after year. I mean, in the beginning, they were selling little plastic, glow-in-the-dark mini-figures. Really simple, inexpensive stuff. It was rare when you saw something on their site for more than $50 bucks.
Then the 12" figures started getting better. Then 1:6 statues. Then maquettes and comiquettes. Then PFs. Then 1:1 busts. Now LSFs. And the occasional 1:1 full statue ...
I just hope they don't one day entirely pass me by.
mr.thrifty
Super Freak
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
Way to F it up Sideshow!!!!!!!
Way to F it up Sideshow!!!!!!!
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How so? We've known it was gonna be a LSF for quiet a while now. These LSF pieces are very very impressive in person.
Way to F it up Sideshow!!!!!!!
How so? We've known it was gonna be a LSF for quiet a while now. These LSF pieces are very very impressive in person.
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
This, RWOS PF, Droids PF, 1/6 Vader, dare I hope HT Hulk & the entire Avengers display, and no doubt a bunch of other cool HT and SSC reveals, this is going to be a very impressive year for SSC at SDCC, probably topping the year they unveiled 1/6 Jabba.
This, RWOS PF, Droids PF, 1/6 Vader, dare I hope HT Hulk & the entire Avengers display, and no doubt a bunch of other cool HT and SSC reveals, this is going to be a very impressive year for SSC at SDCC, probably topping the year they unveiled 1/6 Jabba.
mr.thrifty
Super Freak
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
I am pretty sure Sauron was name dropped in the official LSF announcement from SS.
So it's been "officially" a LSF since when?
I am pretty sure Sauron was name dropped in the official LSF announcement from SS.
Re: Sauron Legendary Scale Figure
My first take on the griping about LSF pricing was that people were not understanding the laws of the universe, namely the square-cube law. People were talking about LSF being 2x the size of a PF but they were measuring this in linear height not volume. The square-cube law states that volumes increases faster than area when something gets bigger so you cannot just say that 2x the height of a PF should be 2x the price due to a "materials" included argument. There should be more volume to these pieces which means more polystone, more paint, etc. Now I don't know if this is true with the wraith PF vs. Sauron LSF though.
Theoretically with LSF you are also getting better quality, the new skin texturing on Obi-Wan for example. Presumably we are getting real armoring details with Sauron. So LSF isn't just bigger it is also better. In theory. Sideshow's QC is questionable and taking a shot at a 250 dollar statue is a different thing than a 2000 dollar statue. But the open ES and no EX means replacements are easy to get.
But I also think you are correct in your assessment. Many modern collectors see completism as the sign of a super fan. As well, having the most expensive collection can be a badge of honor. Maybe they are targeting the Neimann Marcus market, the full size x-wing in the front yard buyer, the guy or gal that doesn't care about price but wants to buy prestige. And of course, they are dragging us aspirationals along for the ride, but that's our fault.
When looking at these things, the Sauron and impending Indy LSF, I can't help but think of the sunk opportunity costs with what other collectibles I could buy for 4000 dollars. I have too many hobbies/interests.
This is just me completely speculating, but no way will this be less than $2K.
The thing about the LSF line is ... the price point seems to be more about status than what things cost to produce.
I could be totally wrong, but they seem to be after a kind of street cred that selling really expensive "high-end" things gets you.
It seems to me they're after a different "class" of collector with these. The kind of folks who drive fancier cars, live in fancier houses and drink fancier drinks than I do. The kind of folks who see a high price tag as a status symbol.
$2K for these statues seems seriously inflated to me. (Let's face it, doubling the size of a PF probably doesn't really mean their production costs jump up nearly seven times.) But the inflated price may actually be the point here.
What if the high pricetag is actually meant to be the draw? The kind of thing that would actually appeal to that particular audience?
So I think that's why $2K is the standard price for LSFs, no matter what. Unless they decide to raise it later. But no way does it go down.
(The only reason Neytiri was cheaper, I think, is because she was released before the line was launched. If she was released today, I bet she'd be $2K as well.)
That's just my read of the situation. And it makes me sad.
Just my two cents.
My first take on the griping about LSF pricing was that people were not understanding the laws of the universe, namely the square-cube law. People were talking about LSF being 2x the size of a PF but they were measuring this in linear height not volume. The square-cube law states that volumes increases faster than area when something gets bigger so you cannot just say that 2x the height of a PF should be 2x the price due to a "materials" included argument. There should be more volume to these pieces which means more polystone, more paint, etc. Now I don't know if this is true with the wraith PF vs. Sauron LSF though.
Theoretically with LSF you are also getting better quality, the new skin texturing on Obi-Wan for example. Presumably we are getting real armoring details with Sauron. So LSF isn't just bigger it is also better. In theory. Sideshow's QC is questionable and taking a shot at a 250 dollar statue is a different thing than a 2000 dollar statue. But the open ES and no EX means replacements are easy to get.
But I also think you are correct in your assessment. Many modern collectors see completism as the sign of a super fan. As well, having the most expensive collection can be a badge of honor. Maybe they are targeting the Neimann Marcus market, the full size x-wing in the front yard buyer, the guy or gal that doesn't care about price but wants to buy prestige. And of course, they are dragging us aspirationals along for the ride, but that's our fault.
When looking at these things, the Sauron and impending Indy LSF, I can't help but think of the sunk opportunity costs with what other collectibles I could buy for 4000 dollars. I have too many hobbies/interests.
