Scalping is discouraged on this forum, and so shouldn't all pro scalping posts also b

[The Ween]

Blackthornone is Teemu????

Just seems that way to me. Maybe twin brothers?

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Blackthornone is Teemu????

Just seems that way to me. Maybe twin brothers?

Did I miss something?? Who is teemu??

 

[Blackthornone]

I don't believe that. You'd spend every dollar you have -- up to $100M -- for a $400 collectible? You'd bankrupt yourself to get back? You'd destroy your life to save a trinket?

If true -- your love for this item is genuine, and disturbing. Prioritize.

SnakeDoc

It wasn't really a collectible. It was an extremely important thing from my childhood. If you can't understand that, than you obviously cannot will never understand. It basically meant the world to me as a child, and I was shattered when it was stolen from me.

 

[hoodonit00]

. I can't believe I made the mistake of reading this entire thread created by a very opinionated person. I think Robodad and 316what are the wisest people in here.

Damn I never get labeled wisest person (kicks stone)

 

[hairlesswookiee]

I know this because I analyze things deeply as I have always been a deep thinker.

This guy cracks me up immensely. However, I feel there should be a cap on the length of a post. It's seriously annoying that he needs to make every post a lengthy lecture about how he "knows things."

 

[Blackthornone]

. I can't believe I made the mistake of reading this entire thread created by a very opinionated person. I think Robodad and 316what are the wisest people in here.

Perhaps the most conventional. If you are indeed a conventionalist, than perhaps you would believe such.

 

[hoodonit00]

This guy cracks me up immensely. However, I feel there should be a cap on the length of a post. It's seriously annoying that he needs to make every post a lengthy lecture about how he "knows things."

I remember him now. He's the one going on about being a vegan.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

I know this because I analyze things deeply as I have always been a deep thinker. Most people don't bother questioning things the way I do. I ask what makes something tick? What makes something function ? What is a thing REALLY at the deepest possible level? What is it's meaning? Most people just look at things at an overall degree, and simply accept things as a package, with no intent to look deeper, or find any flaws, any SPECIFIC flaws about it that could be fixed. THAT would require looking deeply enough to see specific flaws within a system or any given situation, and thus see the little black dots on the white background. That would force people to face the challenge of actually fixing those flaws and removing those black dots. Most people don't have the passion, determination or the patience. They certainly don't have the idealism, because they have accepted too many of these black and white systems within themselves and called them part of their identity. [...]

That is essentially where greed comes from.

That was a pretty self-superior post from top-to-bottom. You obviously think very highly of yourself ... examine that black dot. All greed is not for money -- pride is just as alluring as wealth to many (particularly those who tout their intellect). Typically "deep thinking", "intellectual" people need not declare outright how intellectual they are.

However, I agree in principle that the world is black-and-white. There is a right and wrong. However, profit is not wrong ... and profit (even scalping toys for profit) is not necessarily "greed". Economics is, at its base, about supply and demand. Scalpers simply take advantage of those occasions where demand exceeds supply ... or where the original selling price is well beneath the actual market value of the item.

Toys are not essentials, they are toys ... one will not be less fulfilled from owning one less toy. I have no problem with people buying low and selling high ... such is the nature of business.

If you want to eliminate scalping, the original retailer should cut out the middle-man -- charge actual market value at retail, and make scalping a losing equation. Collectors will end up paying the same price (the equilibrium of price/demand and supply) in either case.

SnakeDoc

 

[The Ween]

Did I miss something?? Who is teemu??

Another member here. He talks alot like Blackthornone.

I haven't seen Teemu for awhile. Maybe the black helicopters got him.

 

[Blackthornone]

This guy cracks me up immensely. However, I feel there should be a cap on the length of a post. It's seriously annoying that he needs to make every post a lengthy lecture about how he "knows things."

They aren't lectures about the fact that I know things, they are lectures about what I know. I suppose I could make a post about how I know things.

 

[creecher]

Black and white may be fine in a digital world but I live in an analog world. Must be a reason why it starts with those four letters. I see your analogy though.

It would be fine to view things in either black or white but that would be to discount other possibilities, in this case grey. The universe is a conglomeration of all things, to separate it into it's individual components is like missing the forest for the trees. The complexity of human existence exists in the combination of blacks, whites and greys. To focus on any one, against the other, is to miss the picture, it's components and the influence of one body over another. The world isn't two dimensional. The further you stand back, the more dimensions it incorporates.

More to the topic, a 'scalper' may be categorised by his intentions. It doesn't make one any, on these types of forums anyway, less of a collector. Most 'scalpers' on these forums happen to be collectors and utilise opportunity to perpetuate their passion for collecting. Thus smearing black and white into shades of grey. Even if they have good intent they can be labeled a 'scalper' incorrectly. e.g. I buy something cheap, decide I don't want it and put it on ebay. It being a collectible, it might sell over and above the retail price, so I become a scalper by default.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

It wasn't really a collectible. It was an extremely important thing from my childhood. If you can't understand that, than you obviously cannot will never understand. It basically meant the world to me as a child, and I was shattered when it was stolen from me.

I understand love. I understand sacrificing. I cannot understand overvaluing an object or a thing. I would bankrupt myself a hundred times over to save the life of my wife or children. I would give every dollar I have, and every item I own. I would spend a lifetime in prison, or throw myself in front of a train or a bullet in their defense. These are irreplaceable, and are more valuable to me than my quality of life.

But, things are things. They're cool little bits of junk. They come and go. Some are nice to have, some would be nice to have, and some are worth spending on. None are worth actual love. Its stuff. I don't understand "loving" stuff. I don't understand sacrificing quality of life for stuff. That sounds a lot like greed to me.

Perhaps your problem with scalpers is that they're selling something you overvalue (stuff; collectibles) for something they overvalue (money). They see your passion as a tool for profit, just as you see their passion as a tool for acquisition.

SnakeDoc

 

[karamazov80]

Another member here. He talks alot like Blackthornone.

I haven't seen Teemu for awhile. Maybe the black helicopters got him.

Teemu is still around. The other day, he was discussing the theory (fact?) that only giants could have built the pyramids.

 

[Blackthornone]

Teemu is still around. The other day, he was discussing the theory (fact?) that only giants could have built the pyramids.

Or people with the power of telekinesis.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Teemu is still around. The other day, he was discussing the theory (fact?) that only giants could have built the pyramids.

I remember who this guy is now.

 

[BadMoon]

Scalpers are evil.

But I've given up on trying to take them down. This forum exists so people can know about cool things and have a better opportunity of getting them early, and not have to deal with scalpers/flippers.

If you don't know about something and aren't able to get in on the initial offer, then you should have been reading the forum more closely.

I have to resign myself that by providing the forum I'm doing my part to fight evil.

I wouldn't go so far as to say they are evil. However, the ones that cost me $300 a ticket to go see the Eagles play piss me off!

 

[Deak Starkiller]

Man this thread is something all right. I feel like I need a snifter of Brandy and a monocle.

 

[316what]

. I can't believe I made the mistake of reading this entire thread created by a very opinionated person. I think Robodad and 316what are the wisest people in here.

My wife would vehemently disagree.

 

[316what]

I know this because I analyze things deeply as I have always been a deep thinker. Most people don't bother questioning things the way I do. I ask what makes something tick? What makes something function ? What is a thing REALLY at the deepest possible level? What is it's meaning?

Sylar, is that you?

 

[BadMoon]

Sylar, is that you?

People like this I will never understand. There is perfectly good reason to question EVERYTHING! But at least make an educated and informed decision.