Sideshow 1/6 ROTLA Indiana Jones Image Thread

[IrishJedi]

Might I remind everyone that we're all adults (I think) arguing and posturing over TOYS.

 

[Darklord Dave]

What stuns me is the fact that you're critiquing the hell out of something you don't even have in your hands yet. You're basing everything off of someone else's photos and hearsay. I understand being inquisitive over photos posted online, hell, a few even have me stumped, but nitpicking it to death when you haven't even held the finished product is appalling. This is one of the problems with starting a photo thread before you physically have the figure in your grimy little mitts to critique. I saw this happen in the HotToys TDK thread which was ultimately locked because it was an embarrassment for anyone, with any self respect, to read. That is what's shallow and pretty petty man.

There are photos from people who do have it in hand. It's unfortunate that those pics are only from Asian boards and we don't have first hand commentary from the owners of the figure.

I'm just glad pics of Gandalf didn't first appear in the same way - people would now be complaining how bad a figure he is too.

 

[IrishJedi]

There are photos from people who do have it in hand. It's unfortunate that those pics are only from Asian boards and we don't have first hand commentary from the owners of the figure.

I'm just glad pics of Gandalf didn't first appear in the same way - people would now be complaining how bad a figure he is too.

I don't think it's the pictures that are generating worry (at least for me) as much as the reports of yet another new body with loose joints and inconsistent paint apps on the head.

We shall see if these reports are true, but they're certainly not encouraging.

 

[SovereignStudio]

Agent5 can be a bit vocal when it comes to Indy. Like I said, we're a different breed when it comes to this character. For close to a decade we've both been part of a forum whose fanaticism lives and dies pretty much on a single character; a bunch of nuts who have spent ungodly sums in the quest for the PERFECT 1:1 Indy outfit, gear and props. You haven't seen nit-pick until you've hung with us over there. There are guys over there that can tell you the exact stitch count of the Raiders jacket, the dimensions and specs of every piece of leather, fabric and felt in that outfit. We send x-mas cards to the people who made the costumes for the films, for christ's sake. Some have even traveled to Europe to meet these people. We're a crazy bunch over there.

One thing I've learned as a Freak, most people here have a very wide range of interests and collect a vast array of stuff from many movies and such. Indy fans, at least our group on the other board for the most part, are different. we don't dabble, we specialize to an insane level. I'll admit I was really angry when I first saw the pics of the SS Indy. Not due to the work, but the simple fact they had displayed him with his respirator bag strap on the outside of the jacket. "What kind of moron does that?" I thought. "Have they never seen the film? Don't they have any respect for the character? How could they screw up something as simple as properly dressing the figure, in photos they'll rely on to sell the figure?" I thought about that for days. How freakin' stupid is that of me I was like Lee Ermy finding that jelly doughnut in Pyle's foot locker. But that's an Indy fan for you. And when I saw they has used pieces of a BAG STRAP for the PULL STRAPS on the JACKET..... that's another story. I'm still in therapy over that one.

 

[IrishJedi]

By "over there" I assume you mean IndyGear and COW (Club Obi-Wan)? (I'm a member too, so I know what you mean).

 

[SovereignStudio]

By "over there" I assume you mean IndyGear and COW (Club Obi-Wan)? (I'm a member too, so I know what you mean).

Yup Do you use the same name over there?

 

[IrishJedi]

Yup Do you use the same name over there?

Yes, I do now. I had an older account that used an expired email address so I had to create a new one last year sometime and used "IrishJedi".

I have lots of 1:1 Indy stuff myself and I'm of course the proud owner of a Steve Delk Adventurebilt, among other items.

BTW, did you get in on that recent run of resin Cross of Coronado kits? I just got mine and it's pretty nice (especially for the price). It will take some work, but I think this will eventually become another nice 1:1 prop.

 

[JustinLuck]

SS has released lots of figures with fantastic paint aps.

A lot? Name some you think are fantastic.

 

[SovereignStudio]

Saw those, didn't get one I haven't had a lot of spare cash lately. Had to sell off most of my gear last year, still trying to build that back up, sadly. Looks like Todd has everything now. I kinda miss the old days, when you had to hunt for good gear. Made it more fun. Now it's another one-stop shopping experience. Would still rather have an AB than a HJ, though

 

[IrishJedi]

A lot? Name some you think are fantastic.

Off the top of my head...

Old Ben
Gandalf
Palpatine
Sidious
Clone Obi-Wan
Leia Boushh
Bela Lugosi Dracula

 

[The Boot]

What stuns me is the fact that you're critiquing the hell out of something you don't even have in your hands yet. You're basing everything off of someone else's photos and hearsay.

In agent5's defense, he is basing his critiques on simple visual differences between the actual figure (not a prototype) and the Raiders costume as seen in the film. It's not like his having it in-hand would make any difference. If it's visually inaccurate, it's visually inaccurate.

That being said, as much as I would love to have a 100%, no-buts-about-it version of the Raiders outfit (and I would...Lord only knows how many times I've drooled over SovereignStudio's Indy costume), I fall squarely in the "it's more than good enough for me" camp with this one.

The snaps on the jacket's stormflap do puzzle me, especially since they weren't on the prototype, but aside from that (and maybe the odd stubble paint) I have no real issues with it.

 

[thenammagazine]

A lot? Name some you think are fantastic.

Better question. And going by your post/thread history, this'll be a good one. Is there anything Sideshow's ever released that you haven't cried about?

 

[JediMike71]

Yes. I'll be creating a step-by-step tutorial (with photos) that shows both how to weather your figures in general and more specifically how to weather ROTLA Indy himself. And I'll share it with everyone. Well, except for thenammagazine... because he doesn't deserve it.

I'm still psyched for this figure... but I'd be lying if I said there wasn't some trepidation and crossed-fingers at this point.

In any case, I can already tell it's better than the $150 turd dropped by Medicom.

I am looking forward to seeing your guide Irish! I want to know how to properly "age" my Indy's outfit. I don't want to mess it up trying to do it with my very limited knowledge about wearing stuff down to look older and worn out. Thanks!

 

[Captain Britain]

Off the top of my head...

Old Ben
Gandalf
Palpatine
Sidious
Clone Obi-Wan
Leia Boushh
Bela Lugosi Dracula

Not to knock SSC too much, but with the exception of Leia and Clone Obi-Wan these are all old men with sharp features, which are generally easier to sculpt than younger men/ women.

 

[icruise]

He's talking about paint apps, not sculpts.

 

[Murderofcrows71]

By "over there" I assume you mean IndyGear and COW (Club Obi-Wan)? (I'm a member too, so I know what you mean).

Me too, although I haven't been hanging around as much because of the constant nagging of what is screen accurate or not. Face it, pick each movie and scene to scene the outfit changes somewhat. It's fairly impossible to be screen accurate to an entire movie due to numerous sets of costumes. It's obvious that the sideshow Indy's fedora was sculpted with the Cairo bash, which is the most popular. Then earlier in the film and later, the bash is different. So to those who say the figure isn't perfect, I'd agree, but it's much easier to get the perfect Indy figure fitting your preferences with the Sideshow figure than any other. This figure plus Shawn's 1:6 Indy gear, would be the perfect combination I think.

Oh, and I'm Lindiana on the Club Obi Wan board

 

[The Josh]

SS has released lots of figures with fantastic paint aps.

I have to agree. There definitely have been more pluses than minuses. I think it just gets overlooked because some of their stinkers have been REALLY bad.

I agree with both of you. Funny thing is if I had said this first I would have been told shut up SuperFan.

After this long if Indy isn't like Gandalf, Obi-Wan CW, Obi-Wan ANH type level then its sad really. The pics we've seen I'm happy with so for now I feel pretty good about things in general.

Better question. And going by your post/thread history, this'll be a good one. Is there anything Sideshow's ever released that you haven't cried about?

 

[agent5]

As I said...

You think that because it didn't cost $1200 that we shouldn't voice our opinion on what we've been shown so far?

I don't need the figure in front of me to see these flaws. I'm not looking at a prototype anymore, I'm looking at an actual production figure so I think I'm fully entitled to give this opinion on what I can see so far. I guess then you're saying that once I get my figure you won't have anything to say about my critique then? Awesome!

Shawn, your figure is incredible! You're the kind of reference they needed for the costume. I just never thought of you as an actual company. Fan stuff is almost always better anyways because there is so much time to do it right and then there is the love that goes into it.

 

[Morbo]

From a person who is not a nit picker when it comes to figures (apart from loose joints ) I can see how a real Indy fanatic could be annoyed by what they see as easily identifiable mistakes or errors. I, personally, could give a stuff if his jacket has the wrong straps, or his gunbelt is a shade lighter than the movie. Its INDY, you can see it's INDY and that's all I care about.
And surely half the fun of collecting is modifying and customising your figures?
I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong in their opinion, just that it's a massed produced toy when all is said and done, and I think that Sideshow have done a fine job.

 

[MaulFan]

In the end, I just want a cool Indy figure based off how he looked in the first three movies, which this figure will satisfy. My only gripes so far are the inconsistent paint app reports and the loose joint report, that's a problem for me, I've always been fearful of the stubble paint and it sucks because some heads that have been posted hear look to have a good, subtle stubble effect and others have the chin strap beard look, which is unaacceptable because too thick would be one thing, but to have a beard style not even close to right for the character is really sloppy. I hate that this figure seems to be as pjam said, a Russian roullette of decent body joints and face paint apps. Clonobi came out very well and quite consistent, as does Gandalf seem to be, why Indy's plagued is baffling. I really think they should have just left the stubble at the texture Trev sculpted, it's too risk trying to paint that on a production figure.