Sideshow ESB/ROTJ Darth Vader

[Invictus Sol]

ARRGH! Toy Anxeity's shopping cart really sucks...

Yeah, I had problems a week or two ago on their site, using IE 11. Had to resort to buying the stuff I wanted via my iPad, but by then one or two things I wanted were gone.

...Ended up getting a second spare hilt. Looks like I'll have a complete CCFL and Hilt assembly for sale soon.

Looking forward to seeing how those turn out, pix.

 

[pixletwin]

Hey Pix, Commtech used a Y-stand, it's a few posts back.

I am going to paint myself ignorant here but oh well... What is a Y-stand?

 

[Asta]

I am going to paint myself ignorant here but oh well... What is a Y-stand?

Something like this:

 

[TheFiend]

The new Vader has one weird looking body when nekkid. Kinda makes me think of what someone was talking about earlier about him look boxy or clunky or something.

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[pixletwin]

Thank Kuat. I wonder how in heaven's he attached that to the clone torso.

 

[Nyhargo Dirge]

Someone else put this beautifully last month. David Prowse's "specs" are a starting point, but David Prowse is not Darth Vader. No more than Martin Freeman or Elijah Wood are Hobbits.

 

[Pixelpiper]

WHAAAT?

In other words, he's an actor, playing the part of a character that is all costume-based. And, he's not the only person to have played that character, even in the three original movies. I could have easily said Kenny Baker playing R2, Anthony Daniels playing C3PO, Mayhew as Chewbacca, Ahmed Best as Jar Jar, etc.

 

[Rambler]

I got my replacement belt, shoulder armor, and Anakin head today. The Anakin head was still crooked and the paint apps were worse on this one. Therefore, I decided to try to mod my original head and make it straight. I broke the glue joints free and separated the head from the collar. I then had to carve out a little on the sides of the head and I then reglued it in place. It's now straight and looks great.

Now to send the pics of my destroyed stuff to SSC.

 

[Solo_bones]

The new Vader has one weird looking body when nekkid. Kinda makes me think of what someone was talking about earlier about him look boxy or clunky or something.

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Yeah, some pictures he looks bold legged and that looks sort of weird. Maybe they felt it looked better with the cod piece? I think having muscular legs would have been a wiser choice, but perhaps it would make him look shorter? Who knows how and why they did what they did.

Got pics of your modded Vader?

 

[jedibear]

I got my replacement belt, shoulder armor, and Anakin head today. The Anakin head was still crooked and the paint apps were worse on this one. Therefore, I decided to try to mod my original head and make it straight. I broke the glue joints free and separated the head from the collar. I then had to carve out a little on the sides of the head and I then reglued it in place. It's now straight and looks great.

Now to send the pics of my destroyed stuff to SSC.

Where were the glue joints on it and how much was it glued in (was it hard to separate it from the collar)? My Anakin head is slightly crooked too....

 

[Indiana]

Another thing that kind of pushes Vader away from regal is the beginning of Jedi; Jerjerrod had set up the large welcome with dozens of officers and troopers. Vader then brushes off Jerjerrod's welcome: "You may dispense with the pleasantries, commander. I am here to put you back on schedule." The way I see it, he is basically just following the Emperor's orders to get this machine of war together, and is rather irritated that they spend time setting up this elaborate and ornate welcome.
Another thing that the Special Edition ruins: in Empire, after Luke jumps, you originally see Vader walking down a corridor demanding his shuttle to be ready for him. In the Special Edition, he orders the star destroyer to be prepared for his arrival, then show the exact same scene from Jedi (from another angle) of his shuttle arriving to pomp and circumstance. In my mind, destroying his goal driven character of relentless domination.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Another thing that kind of pushes Vader away from regal is the beginning of Jedi; Jerjerrod had set up the large welcome with dozens of officers and troopers. Vader then brushes off Jerjerrod's welcome: "You may dispense with the pleasantries, commander. I am here to put you back on schedule." The way I see it, he is basically just following the Emperor's orders to get this machine of war together, and is rather irritated that they spend time setting up this elaborate and ornate welcome.
Another thing that the Special Edition ruins: in Empire, after Luke jumps, you originally see Vader walking down a corridor demanding his shuttle to be ready for him. In the Special Edition, he orders the star destroyer to be prepared for his arrival, then show the exact same scene from Jedi (from another angle) of his shuttle arriving to pomp and circumstance. In my mind, destroying his goal driven character of relentless domination.

You've been thinking about this awhile, huh?

Sorry, Vader is badass in ANH -- an underling that is smarter and shrewder than Tarkin, and takes action, handling everything himself, even getting out there into the end battle with his own special TIE -- then he gets more regal and shiny in ESB, giving orders rather than acting himself, even gets his own underlings and a fancy, colorful Star Destroyer (though he's still an excellent villain here) -- but finally by Jedi he's so boring he has nothing to do but get the Emperor's mail. He's wasted in Jedi more than Han is. Basically he's there for Luke to save in the end.

 

[TheFiend]

Wor-Gar is a 'first movie is da best' kinda guy.

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[OutLander]

You've been thinking about this awhile, huh?

Sorry, Vader is badass in ANH -- an underling that is smarter and shrewder than Tarkin, and takes action, handling everything himself, even getting out there into the end battle with his own special TIE -- then he gets more regal and shiny in ESB, giving orders rather than acting himself, even gets his own underlings and a fancy, colorful Star Destroyer (though he's still an excellent villain here) -- but finally by Jedi he's so boring he has nothing to do but get the Emperor's mail. He's wasted in Jedi more than Han is. Basically he's there for Luke to save in the end.

And You've been thinking about this awhile, huh?

 

[kirklondon]

You guys should listen to the ROTJ commentary with Sam Witwer (Clone Wars Darth Maul's voice) on Rebel Force Radio. The podcast is great every week, but Sam gives great insight into the film.

https://www.shotglassdigital.com/release_category/rebelforceradio/

As for Han being wasted in Jedi, they didn't know Harrison was going to do the movie until late. He was only contracted for the first two movies. So they had to add Han into the movie more than planned.

 

[TheFiend]

I get what Wor-Gar is saying, but I dig Vader throughout. He has his moments in all the movies. But Vader in that TIE fighter is really kick ***. I love the way Vader look in ANH, although I think I prefer his armor over the robe. But nothing beats the ANH mask, man.

Anyway, while Wor-Gar argues Vader's badassery in ANH it can also be argued that he's a bit of a lackey. Tarkin essentially told him to knock it off... and he did. "As you wish." Now, even that can be seen in two ways. One as being submissive to a superior, or that Vader was sort of playing with Motti. The way he says " As you wish" make we think this. Nothing more than intimidation.

 

[Indiana]

You've been thinking about this awhile, huh?

Sorry, Vader is badass in ANH -- an underling that is smarter and shrewder than Tarkin, and takes action, handling everything himself, even getting out there into the end battle with his own special TIE -- then he gets more regal and shiny in ESB, giving orders rather than acting himself, even gets his own underlings and a fancy, colorful Star Destroyer (though he's still an excellent villain here) -- but finally by Jedi he's so boring he has nothing to do but get the Emperor's mail. He's wasted in Jedi more than Han is. Basically he's there for Luke to save in the end.

Oh, I love Vader's characterization in ANH. In context of the series, I don't really see him as an underling to Tarkin. For example, there is a deleted scene included in the blu-ray set where Vader and Cmdr. Sideburns discuss Tarkin's foolish attempts to extract the information from Leia. Vader knows that the plans will show up, and is being patient and just humoring Tarkin. Vader's job is to catch the rebels, and it crosses into the Death Star, which is Tarkin's territory. He simply lets Tarkin take care of all the stuff dealing with the Death Star. I definitely didn't and don't mean to go into a rant or anything; I just was giving what you said some thought. I do see the character shift some, but it seemed he had more to do in the later movies. It can be said he was more regal and less battle ready, but just about the only thing I can think that he could have done is personally followed the Falcon in the asteroid field in his own TIE fighter. That would have been awesome.
I recently read the novelization of Jedi, and it gives Vader more depth and characterization than the movie does as it follows some of his inner monologue. In it, he is constantly plotting in his mind to just follow the Emperor until Luke is strong and loyal enough to rule the galaxy at his side. So he is doing what the Emperor says, but is planning to kill him when the time presents itself. I just think that ups his character to reinforce that he was telling the truth to Luke in Empire. Now if he planned to be a regal ruler or not, I don't know.

 

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[Wor-Gar]

Wor-Gar is a 'first movie is da best' kinda guy.

I do go back and forth a lot on ANH and ESB and which I favor. Right now, I'm on an ANH upside. Ask me a year ago I probably would have said ESB. I think ESB is more watchable because of the 3 intercut storylines, while ANH is linear and can seem to plod along after multiple immediate viewings. But the first STAR WARS will always have a special place in my heart.

And Indiana, I was just razzing you because you brought up an old post from like two days ago. Believe me, I actually do think about these things. Stupid OCD loop. Also, you have the rockin'-est sig so you're always good in my book.

 

[Wor-Gar]

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DAMN -- that's one awesome pic!!!

I had just gotten over wanting this figure -- distracted myself with Grievous -- now I want it again.