Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

I'm sorry, but saying it's the novelization of the movie does NOT equate to it being widely read.

As you've acknowledged, it was cut from the final film (if it was ever in the script at all), so IMO it's irrelevant and not canon. It's like those early ROTJ drafts where GL was going to have Yoda or Ben's force ghost block Palpatine's lightning to save Luke. If this is canon, then it's hypocritical to say a force ghost can't physically interact with/affect the living world. We don't get to pick and choose which discarded drafts are canon and which are not.

No its not like early drafts thats not how movie novelizations work but if you need to tell yourself this to enjoy tros more power too you. They were very vague with the emperor for a reason cause the whole thing is a confusing mess. The novelization is as much canon as the movie again if you read it you would know this. Everything you see in the movie is in the book with word for word dialog so if its irrelevant so is everything you saw in tros with your eyes lol.

Thats like saying lord of the rings novel isnt canon cause peter jackson omitted a few characters from the movie lol. Movie doesnt override the book its based on. The rise of Skywalker book is the complete story the movie is based on but they couldnt fit everything in the book in the movie. Its the same exact story with more details, im sorry i dont get your arguement at all. If it was some random book or some pre rise book sure but its the actual movie novelization lol

 

[Prime Clone]

I thought I recalled Khev saying the TROS commentary referred to Rey as Palps' literal granddaughter and made no reference to a clone father. But it *is* weird they allowed the novelisation to conflict with the film to such an extent.

Abrams and Terrio must be taking the easy way out: Let the viewers decide!

 

[xipotec]

That's a very good point about the reasons why Disney bought SW.
What astonishes me is the hubris, the arrogance, of making a SW theme park without the OT/PT characters. It just boggles the mind that anybody would think it's a good idea to do a SW theme park and not have Vader and the other OT characters in it.

SWGE is incredible. I feel sorry for Star Wars fans who are boycotting is for some weird reason.....

It?s the best park I have visited and I have been to most around the world.

It does not have a huge ST slant besides the Stomies being of the new variety.....most of the ST stuff is minimal and fun.

The land itself is pure Star Wars and seeing the Falcon in real scale is a dream come true for this SW fan......


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[JAWS]

I'm sorry, but saying it's the novelization of the movie does NOT equate to it being widely read.

As you've acknowledged, it was cut from the final film (if it was ever in the script at all), so IMO it's irrelevant and not canon. It's like those early ROTJ drafts where GL was going to have Yoda or Ben's force ghost block Palpatine's lightning to save Luke. If this is canon, then it's hypocritical to say a force ghost can't physically interact with/affect the living world. We don't get to pick and choose which discarded drafts are canon and which are not.

Didn't Force Ghost Obi Wan interact with his surroundings when he sat his ass on a tree stump in ROTJ

 

[JAWS]

No its not like early drafts thats not how movie novelizations work but if you need to tell yourself this to enjoy tros more power too you. They were very vague with the emperor for a reason cause the whole thing is a confusing mess. The novelization is as much canon as the movie again if you read it you would know this. Everything you see in the movie is in the book with word for word dialog so if its irrelevant so is everything you saw in tros with your eyes lol.

Thats like saying lord of the rings novel isnt canon cause peter jackson omitted a few characters from the movie lol. Movie doesnt override the book its based on. The rise of Skywalker book is the complete story the movie is based on but they couldnt fit everything in the book in the movie. Its the same exact story with more details, im sorry i dont get your arguement at all. If it was some random book or some pre rise book sure but its the actual movie novelization lol

If people can ignore the whole PT or ST as canon... I would think it would be easy to ignore this.

Many times books are based on the script of a film before its shot.. Thus the spider with baby head thing.. Is that Canon to you then? Its not in the movie at all... There is no hint of it.. But its in the book so it must have happened?

Just because its in the script or the book does not mean its what the film makers intended with what is finally on screen.

SWGE is incredible. I feel sorry for Star Wars fans who are boycotting is for some weird reason.....

It?s the best park I have visited and I have been to most around the world.

It does not have a huge ST slant besides the Stomies being of the new variety.....most of the ST stuff is minimal and fun.

The land itself is pure Star Wars and seeing the Falcon in real scale is a dream come true for this SW fan......


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I can not agree more with this.. As soon as I found out there was no OT stuff I crossed it off my list of things to do.

 

[The Buffinator]

No its not like early drafts thats not how movie novelizations work but if you need to tell yourself this to enjoy tros more power too you. They were very vague with the emperor for a reason cause the whole thing is a confusing mess. The novelization is as much canon as the movie again if you read it you would know this. Everything you see in the movie is in the book with word for word dialog so if its irrelevant so is everything you saw in tros with your eyes lol.

Thats like saying lord of the rings novel isnt canon cause peter jackson omitted a few characters from the movie lol. Movie doesnt override the book its based on. The rise of Skywalker book is the complete story the movie is based on but they couldnt fit everything in the book in the movie. Its the same exact story with more details, im sorry i dont get your arguement at all. If it was some random book or some pre rise book sure but its the actual movie novelization lol

OMFG, you can't be serious. The difference between a TROS novelization and LOTR is that Tolkein wrote LOTR decades prior to Jackson's movies, whereas the TROS novelization was released after the fact, written by an author hired to expand upon TROS's script such that it had an adequate # of pages. An author, incidentally, who is not credited with contributing to the movie's screenplay nor the story on which it is based. My apologies if this comes off as rude, but no one gives a flying f@ck what it says in some cash grab novelization.

p.s. - Keep in mind that this is the Movie & TV Show section of the board - The Printed Word section in the next one down.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

 

[JAWS]

OMFG, you can't be serious. The difference between a TROS novelization and LOTR is that Tolkein wrote LOTR decades prior to Jackson's movies, whereas the TROS novelization was released after the fact, written by an author hired to expand upon TROS's script such that it had an adequate # of pages. An author, incidentally, who is not credited with contributing to the movie's screenplay nor the story on which it is based. My apologies if this comes off as rude, but no one gives a flying f@ck what it says in some cash grab novelization.

p.s. - Keep in mind that this is the Movie & TV Show section of the board - The Printed Word section in the next one down.

Yes no way you can compare the two. LOTR films were based on the books and TROS was a book based on a script and film..

Just like the LOTR too many liberties with the novel so did the Novel of TROS take many liberties from the film/script.

It's like telling a fan of the LOTR book that you have to accept the Elves coming to help fight at the battle of Helms Deep as canon because they filmed it and its in the movie.

Or If you are just a fan of the films then you have to accept as canon that Arwen also fought at Helms Deep because it was in the original script and they filmed scenes of her there.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

I dont care what you people say maybe lord of the rings was not a good example but this is from the official book approved bybthe same mother****ers that brought you the movie and includes everything you saw in the ****** movie. You cant say no but in my head canon he had sex with a girl and had a baby his son if its not true because it makes the movie horse****. The reason they vague about the “son” And only showed him in a flashback is cause the explanation for him actually being his son made no sense but think what you want. Its in the book for you, failed clone.

 

[JAWS]

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Dude read my post above.

Better yet here it is.

Yes no way you can compare the two. LOTR films were based on the books and TROS was a book based on a script and film..

Just like the LOTR too many liberties with the novel so did the Novel of TROS take many liberties from the film/script.

It's like telling a fan of the LOTR book that you have to accept the Elves coming to help fight at the battle of Helms Deep as canon because they filmed it and its in the movie.

Or If you are just a fan of the films then you have to accept as canon that Arwen also fought at Helms Deep because it was in the original script and they filmed scenes of her there.

Point is... It does not matter if its in the Book!!!! You dont have to accept it as canon because its not on screen

 

[JAWS]

I dont care what you people say maybe lord of the rings was not a good example but this is from the official book approved bybthe same mother****ers that brought you the movie and includes everything you saw in the ****** movie

So

baby Spider Legs is Canon and happened in the film.. We just didnt see it..


Guess Arwen raly did fight at helms Deep.. Its in the script and it was filmed.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

So

baby Spider Legs is Canon and happened in the film.. We just didnt see it..


Guess Arwen raly did fight at helms Deep.. Its in the script and it was filmed.

The move never told you where he had a son so how do explain that the book does its a son its a failed clone. Which is why they dont explain it in the movie but expect people to make up their own ideas and everyone assumes its his son cause they ****ing say that, sadly you cant see the “son” around the son, but you did see the cloning chambers with a bunch of failed snoke clones. Maybe thats why only a select few like tros because half of the movie is made up head canon Because everything with palps (including his return, how he survived, what his plan was, how he had a son ext) in the movie is intentionally vague as ****

 

[JAWS]

The Novelization of the film ALIEN based on Dan O'Bannon's book states that the Face Hugger has a large eye on its back.. Must be true.. Its in the book

 

[JAWS]

The move never told you where he had a son so how do explain that the book does its a son its a failed clone. Which is why they dont explain it in the movie but expect people to make up their own ideas and everyone assumes its his son cause they ****ing say that, sadly you cant see the “son” around the son, but you did see the cloning chambers with a bunch of failed snoke clones. Maybe thats why only a select few like tros because half of the movie is made up head canon Because everything with palps explained in the movie is intentionally vague as ****

Dude I have had to head Canon SW ever since they uttered the word Midiclorians and that was in the movie

Seriously though.. Why is it that I cant accept it as his son and Rey as his Granddaughter. It was the only assumption you could come to until the novel mucked it up.. I swear they only added that because everyone was bitching about the idea of Palps ****ing.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

Naw the prequel books were exact mirrors of the movies with just a few extra details. You guys are blindly defending tros and will just say about anything to discount valid contradictions even if they are cited from the freakin novel istelf. Instead you call canon what you make up in your mind. So please tell me how did he survive the desth star explosion when did he have a time to have son after his body had ****ing been destroyed. How did bang his clone bang a chick stuck on that apparatus in exegal with half a ****. He had no child in the ot and maybe the book ****ed it up but i think its more kk and disney made poorly planned movies

 

[Prime Clone]

What complicates things is that, under the LF Story Group, the books and comics are supposed to be as canon as the movies. So do we add the disclaimer "except the movie novelisations"?

 

[JAWS]

Just for the record.. Yoda was Blue in the Novelization of The Empire Strikes Back as well the Marvel comic.. But he was green in the movie.. I don't know what to believe anymore

 

[Prime Clone]

And Jabba looked like this:

But that was in simpler times, when the comics were "secondary canon"!

 

[Prime Clone]

Meanwhile...

 

[JAWS]

Naw the prequel books were exact mirrors of the movies with just a few extra details. You guys are blindly defending tros and will just say about anything to discount valid contradictions even if they are cited from the freakin novel istelf. Instead you call canon what you make up in your mind. So please tell me how did he survive the desth star explosion when did he have a time to have son after his body had ****ing been destroyed. How did bang his clone bang a chick stuck on that apparatus in exegal with half a ****. He had no child in the ot and maybe the book ****ed it up but i think its more kk and disney made poorly planned movies

Now this I will give you.. I am not sure of the age of his son.. Its 30 + years after ROTJ.. So I can accept that Palps impregnated a chick right before the events of ROTJ.. which would work just fine IMO. He does look younger then 37 years.