Prime Clone
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ROTS did have that hint of sexual jealousy from Anakin but George toned it down from his original version.
Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
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ROTS did have that hint of sexual jealousy from Anakin but George toned it down from his original version.
I think i read that but again that was before he was full on vader im talking about when she met him on mustafar. He was too far gone by then to care about sex, sith get off on power not sex, they completely lose the urge all together which is why no sith has has ever been shown in any cartoon or movie ive seen too even care about doing the nasty. He was a raving madman at that point, scaring the **** out of padma she wasnt going to **** him again anyway even if ben hadnt shown up
Prime Clone
Super Freak
True, true!
I can accept Rey being his actual granddaughter, but I agree it probably humanizes Palps too much.
And it's probably true about his son being too much of a threat. If you believe the new canon comics (many don't) Palps was auditioning other cyborgs without Force powers to replace Vader:
I can accept Rey being his actual granddaughter, but I agree it probably humanizes Palps too much.
And it's probably true about his son being too much of a threat. If you believe the new canon comics (many don't) Palps was auditioning other cyborgs without Force powers to replace Vader:
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Dude... You can fanboy over the PT all you want.. I enjoy the PT but it is a glowing example of how not to make movies from a script / direction / and acting standpoint.
Just as the ST are a glowing example of how not to make a trilogy without a plan and allowing different directors to do whatever the **** they want.
Wor- Gar said it best and I will just repost what he said..
Nah son. The ST is a glowing example of what u stated about the Pt. Poor direction, script and acting. Everything about is worse than the PT. I know the PT is bad but the ST apologist seem hell bent on thinking the PT is the devil and ST saved the franchise but look at what?s being supposedly retconned. It?s done. But the ST apologist keep trying to say how bad it was when the ST was just as bad if not worse.
Also wor gars post is nothing we don?t already know. Yes it was handled poorly but some stuff that was done was done well. Yes it could of been much better but it still has many redemption factors. ST has none.
jye4ever
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The Release the Lucas Cut petition is now a real thing 
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Why would Lucas even have a cut? I thought he was offended that they ignored his outline and went their own way with TFA. Are they now saying he still cared what they did in Episode IX?
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Maybe he still loves Star Wars enough that he'd like a crack at fixing what Disney have done to it. Say what you want about the prequels, but I'd watch them all day long over the sequel trilogy. Must be hard to actually move on from such a big part of your life.
Holy crap Kush
You have to be trolling at this point because this is literally what is happening:
Kush: What is 1 + 1
Khev/JAWS: 2
Kush: THAT MAKES NO SENSE NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION WHAT IS 1 + 1!
Khev/JAWS: 2
Kush: You guys are ignoring my question with double talk because you can?t give a good answer, I GOT YOU HAHA I GOT YOU!
Khev/JAWS: We miss ajp
Ducky: I?m here to conquer bitches! PT did everything right, ST did everything wrong! ROTS/Filoni > ESB just ask aussie!
Khev/JAWS: Christ...just repost Wor-Gar savage post and lets get the hell out of here.
Yep if I were some super stickler for quality or "greatness" then I'd stick with SW and ESB and forsake the rest. But ROTJ and the ST (and hell even aspects of the PT) are just too much fun to not enjoy. Even with its flaws the ST will just always be easier to revisit due to the beautiful cinematography, visuals and acting that often exceed that of the OT. TPM has a unique nostalgia that doesn't overlap with any other film due to the pre-film hype and unique aesthetic and then when I'm *really* slumming there's AOTC and ROTS, lol.
And always great to see ajp posting and offering his impeccable insight and point of view.
you guys like your sith to sparkle in sunlight and be romantic lovers, i prefer mine to be evil, ruthless and beyond such petty things as sex. The ability to bust a nut is insignificant next to the power of the force.
https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-rey-father-clone-palpatine/
"Whether that was a strong narrative choice is beside the point. The very existence of Rey Palpatine implies something even more disturbing than the potential of a Dark Rey: that Grandpa Sheev engaged in intercourse with a human woman."
"What's worse, if one does the math, is that this off-screen rendezvous likely occurred just after the events of Revenge of the Sith ... after Palp's reflected Force lightning disfigured his face into the wrinkly gray mess that came to be better known as Darth Sidious. Star Wars fans are always hungry for more galactic world-building, and are even pretty tolerant of romance plots, but this was a development nobody asked for."
"The film version of The Rise of Skywalker gives us scant but conclusive information about Rey's biological family tree. In addition to the big reveal, we also see her parents but for a few seconds in flashback, played by actors Billy Howle and Jodie Comer. The film changes their motivation for having abandoned her on Jakku, from drunken gambling to an attempt to protect her from a grandfather who sought to exploit her power. The thematic consequence here has more to do with the idea that Rey isn't destined to fall to the dark side, simply because of her genetics. Though we do see what appear to be Snoke clones in a pretty generic vat of science-liquid, and Palpatine alludes to being not entirely human, the concept of cloning isn't explored in any real way on screen."
"The Rise of Skywalker: Expanded Edition. There, we learn the Palpatine who's been lurking on Exegol for all of these years is actually a clone. That twist isn't much of a stretch for audiences, as the already-geriatric Emperor plummeted to what was probably a pretty gruesome end as Death Star II exploded. More surprising is the revelation that Palpatine's son was the result of a failed experimentation with cloning, and not traditional human reproduction.. We can all relax. It turns out, Palpatine wasn't spending the downtime getting busy."
""One genetic strandcast lived," the leaked passage reads, referencing a term first used on The Mandalorian. "Thrived, even. A not-quite-identical clone. His 'son.' But he was a useless, powerless failure. Palpatine could not even bear to look upon such disappointing ordinariness. [...] The boy's only worth would lay in continuing the bloodline through more natural methods."
The notion of Palpatine creating life the old-fashioned way never made much sense. He didn't have a tragic love interest, as did his mentor, Darth Plagueis, or his apprentice, Darth Vader. And actor Ian McDiarmid always portrayed the character as being hornier for power than for human companionship. But the clarification makes you wonder what the members of the Lucasfilm Story Group knew, and when they knew it. How much is revisionist history? The scene in The Last Jedi in which Rey longs to see her parents but instead sees an endless reflection of herself, for example, could've meant much more had these new plot points been woven into the overarching story of the sequel trilogy -- earlier and with more purpose."
https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-rey-father-clone-palpatine/
"Whether that was a strong narrative choice is beside the point. The very existence of Rey Palpatine implies something even more disturbing than the potential of a Dark Rey: that Grandpa Sheev engaged in intercourse with a human woman."
"What's worse, if one does the math, is that this off-screen rendezvous likely occurred just after the events of Revenge of the Sith ... after Palp's reflected Force lightning disfigured his face into the wrinkly gray mess that came to be better known as Darth Sidious. Star Wars fans are always hungry for more galactic world-building, and are even pretty tolerant of romance plots, but this was a development nobody asked for."
"The film version of The Rise of Skywalker gives us scant but conclusive information about Rey's biological family tree. In addition to the big reveal, we also see her parents but for a few seconds in flashback, played by actors Billy Howle and Jodie Comer. The film changes their motivation for having abandoned her on Jakku, from drunken gambling to an attempt to protect her from a grandfather who sought to exploit her power. The thematic consequence here has more to do with the idea that Rey isn't destined to fall to the dark side, simply because of her genetics. Though we do see what appear to be Snoke clones in a pretty generic vat of science-liquid, and Palpatine alludes to being not entirely human, the concept of cloning isn't explored in any real way on screen."
"The Rise of Skywalker: Expanded Edition. There, we learn the Palpatine who's been lurking on Exegol for all of these years is actually a clone. That twist isn't much of a stretch for audiences, as the already-geriatric Emperor plummeted to what was probably a pretty gruesome end as Death Star II exploded. More surprising is the revelation that Palpatine's son was the result of a failed experimentation with cloning, and not traditional human reproduction.. We can all relax. It turns out, Palpatine wasn't spending the downtime getting busy."
""One genetic strandcast lived," the leaked passage reads, referencing a term first used on The Mandalorian. "Thrived, even. A not-quite-identical clone. His 'son.' But he was a useless, powerless failure. Palpatine could not even bear to look upon such disappointing ordinariness. [...] The boy's only worth would lay in continuing the bloodline through more natural methods."
The notion of Palpatine creating life the old-fashioned way never made much sense. He didn't have a tragic love interest, as did his mentor, Darth Plagueis, or his apprentice, Darth Vader. And actor Ian McDiarmid always portrayed the character as being hornier for power than for human companionship. But the clarification makes you wonder what the members of the Lucasfilm Story Group knew, and when they knew it. How much is revisionist history? The scene in The Last Jedi in which Rey longs to see her parents but instead sees an endless reflection of herself, for example, could've meant much more had these new plot points been woven into the overarching story of the sequel trilogy -- earlier and with more purpose."
You couldn't be more wrong. It's stuff like this that gives geeks a bad rep.
IT was a freakin joke jeez, im sorry if i have a bad rap for finding plot holes in tros, i wanted to like the movie as much as you trust me. we are all huge star wars fans, no need for hostility or lynch mob mentality. I dont give a **** if your **** in the dc threads whats the difference. Jye had a complete meltdown in the snyder cut thread when it was first announced. I think most of that **** is funny, just not when Jye did it. But i dont get so emotionally attached to what others think about the movies i like
And it should be obvious that mine was as well. After all, we're both on a action figure collectibles forum.
jye4ever
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Yep if I were some super stickler for quality or "greatness" then I'd stick with SW and ESB and forsake the rest. But ROTJ and the ST (and hell even aspects of the PT) are just too much fun to not enjoy. Even with its flaws the ST will just always be easier to revisit due to the beautiful cinematography, visuals and acting that often exceed that of the OT. TPM has a unique nostalgia that doesn't overlap with any other film due to the pre-film hype and unique aesthetic and then when I'm *really* slumming there's AOTC and ROTS, lol.
And always great to see ajp posting and offering his impeccable insight and point of view.
Here is Khev going over to JAWS house for an AOTC viewing
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JAWS better make a beer run...
And it should be obvious that mine was as well. After all, we're both on a action figure collectibles forum.
Again im trying to insult any of you guys, if you like the movie fine i've been simply saying why over time i have became to hate it. Its got too many plot wholes for my taste, and ruins to many OT characters IMO including the Emperor having sex, yes its got some cool scenes in it but those few scenes dont make up for the rest for me
jye4ever
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That I did and don?t think for a second that i?m over it either.
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All that is totally valid dude. Your take is your take.
A lot of good peeps share your opinion of the movie, even those who haven't succumbed to full blown derangement.
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