Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Boogie Nights is a Classic. I wonder if its a masterpiece?

I'm sure jal76 can definitively answer that question for you.

 

[Khev]

Fury Road has made on other influential filmmakers from Quentin Tarantino to Steven Soderbergh, to Robert Rodriguez (the guy that made everyone?s precious Alita Battle Angel agrees that it is a masterpiece).

Fury Road was a great spectacle but it was all surface level. It does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Star Wars or even Alita IMO.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Imagine a movie that had as much "stuff" in it as a Star Wars movie but was shot like Fury Road...

 

[e30ernest]

This is such BS.. JUST COMPLETE BS!!!! No way someone who posts on a Toy Board eats Peking Duck

Darn it... now I crave for Peking Duck... Not easy to find here lately due to Covid limiting the number of open restaurants.

 

[Prime Clone]

Anyone catch the Black Chrome version of FR? I haven't.

 

[jye4ever]

Peking Duck is excellent.



Then there's this...


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[Sweet Rabbit]

Anyone catch the Black Chrome version of FR? I haven't.

The screening was cancelled

 

[Wor-Gar]

Fury Toad

 

[jye4ever]

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[jal76]

I'm sure jal76 can definitively answer that question for you.

Boogie Nights is on the cusp

 

[jal76]

Fury Road was a great spectacle but it was all surface level. It does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Star Wars or even Alita IMO.

That?s crazy talk right there.
George Miller is twice the filmmaker of anyone to ever make a Star Wars movie but I will concede that ANH was obviously more influential than Fury Road. As for Alita...well i?m going to assume that you are just trolling.

 

[Prime Clone]

The screening was cancelled

It's available on home vid tho...

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

That?s crazy talk right there.
George Miller is twice the filmmaker of anyone to ever make a Star Wars movie but I will concede that ANH was obviously more influential than Fury Road. As for Alita...well i?m going to assume that you are just trolling.

Why argue this sort of thing even if you are convinced you are right, arguing which movie is more influential or is a masterpiece is very subject. There are very few movies that are universally accepted as masterpieces and many haven't even been mentioned here. If i were you id just agree to disagree cause neither side is really wrong or right. The new mad max film was very good for a followup/remake of an older movie, only blade runner 2049 tops it in terms of a follow up movie. However as good as it was its still only the third best movie in the series, the original Mad Max and TRW are millers best movies. The new blade runner only had one movie to compete with but the new fury road had 3 with two of them being really good movies and difficult to beat. I will say fury road is the third best mad max film, but by default it would be hard to consider it masterpiece cause its not even better then the original 2. Sure its a great film, better then 99% of the crap hollywood puts out these days, its just not better then the 1982 TRW

 

[jal76]

Why argue this sort of thing even if you are convinced you are right, arguing which movie is more influential or is a masterpiece is very subject. There are very few movies that are universally accepted as masterpieces and many haven't even been mentioned here. If i were you id just agree to disagree cause neither side is really wrong or right. The new mad max film was very good for a followup/remake of an older movie, only blade runner 2049 tops it in terms of a follow up movie. However as good as it was its still only the third best movie in the series, the original Mad Max and TRW are millers best movies. The new blade runner only had one movie to compete with but the new fury road had 3 with two of them being really good movies and difficult to beat. I will say fury road is the third best mad max film, but by default it would be hard to consider it masterpiece cause its not even better then the original 2. Sure its a great film, better then 99% of the crap hollywood puts out these days, its just not better then the 1982 TRW

Well that would not be as much fun now would it?
I don?t entirely disagree with you but I think I may have mentioned before...filmmaking is not just an art it is a science too.
There is a technical component. Just like the culinary arts, for example, you?re in culinary school and the instructor can tell you that you have failed to create an objectively good souffl?. The student can?t just say ?well that?s like your opinion man? because there are established culinary standards.
Cinema is not entirely different.
A film can be objectively well made based upon the established tenets of what constitutes good filmmaking.
Anyone is able to say that they don?t ?like? The Godfather for example. It is truly not everyone?s cup of tea...but if the same person says ?I don?t like it because it?s a BAD movie? then they are simply demonstrating that they don?t know what they are talking about because it is objectively a great movie in purely technical terms.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

I always thought everyone liked the first 2 godfathers. Hell my mom hates gangster movies but she cried when sonny died. The tough one for me personally are The deer hunter (i love the war scenes and some of the character bulding but the character bulding goes on far to long to the point its boring) and apocalypse now. The latter i just cant warm up too, no matter what cut i watch. Sure i can appreciate the technical aspects but its just one of those movies that does not captivate me (the thin red line also comes to mind but i likes that better than AP now) but both are considered classics/masterpieces but i personally am not a huge fan of either of them

 

[jal76]

Yep and that makes sense. I agree with your take on The Deerhunter. Great film but such a long build up. It took me some time to warm up to Apocalypse Now but once it clicked for me there was no going back.

 

[Khev]

That?s crazy talk right there.
George Miller is twice the filmmaker of anyone to ever make a Star Wars movie but I will concede that ANH was obviously more influential than Fury Road. As for Alita...well i?m going to assume that you are just trolling.

No one gives a **** about how "well made" a film is if the end result doesn't resonate. Alita resonated. Fury Road was well shot, well staged, and beautifully scored but the whole was not greater than the sum of its parts IMO. And that's why I haven't revisited it since 2015.

Sure Miller might have told the story of Tom Hardy escorting Playboy models across the desert in *the absolute best way imaginable*...but that still doesn't mean that it was a story worth telling, or watching, or caring about. Yes it was an enjoyable watch, actually I watched it three times the year it came out so I'll give it that. And it didn't disrespect or disgrace the series in any way. But I don't know that it was anything more.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Well, if you are talking about near unwatchable movies that are masterpieces then start with the king: Citizen Kane. It is a masterpiece, no doubt -- it expanded the language of film, and it is amazing to learn why every shot is there and about depth of focus and framing and time cuts and everything else we now take for granted, and understand that this was the first movie to do it... but its another thing to actually sit down and watch it. I find it tedious. Brilliant for its time, but tedious now.

 

[Khev]

Well, if you are talking about near unwatchable movies that are masterpieces then start with the king: Citizen Kane. It is a masterpiece, no doubt -- it expanded the language of film, and it is amazing to learn why every shot is there and about depth of focus and framing and time cuts and everything else we now take for granted, and understand that this was the first movie to do it... but its another thing to actually sit down and watch it. I find it tedious. Brilliant for its time, but tedious now.

I didn't find it tedious the one and only one time I've ever watched it beginning to end but I also spent the whole movie trying to figure out the Rosebud thing and was quite amazed at how "ahead of its time" it was in so many areas. I wonder if I would feel the same as you if I sat through it again.

And I'm definitely not saying that Fury Road is or was unwatchable. I'm sure if I ever actually cared to put the disc (which I own) back in the player that I'd still find it to be quite entertaining.

 

[jal76]

No one gives a **** about how "well made" a film is if the end result doesn't resonate. Alita resonated. Fury Road was well shot, well staged, and beautifully scored but the whole was not greater than the sum of its parts IMO. And that's why I haven't revisited it since 2015.

Sure Miller might have told the story of Tom Hardy escorting Playboy models across the desert in *the absolute best way imaginable*...but that still doesn't mean that it was a story worth telling, or watching, or caring about. Yes it was an enjoyable watch, actually I watched it three times the year it came out so I'll give it that. And it didn't disrespect or disgrace the series in any way. But I don't know that it was anything more.

Resonate with whom exactly? Resonate with you? No movie will ever be considered a success if it does not resonate with this guy Khev on the Toy Forum?
The movie resonated with me amazingly.
Saw it twice in the theaters, later that year viewed it about 3 times in a row on a flight to Tokyo. Watched the 4K Blu Ray more times than I can count.
Guess you were mistaken. Turns out it resonated.