Can we rename this thread to the masterpiece theater thread lol we can help disney kick start the reboot by wiping tros of the face of this forum
Hey op if your around rename it
Hey op if your around rename it
Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
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This is awesome.....the thread for Rise of ****burger has morphed into basically the best movies ever thread.
Obviously, I'm biased because I was young in the 90s and everyone looks at their youth with rose-colored glasses, but I think that was the last decade of really groundbreaking Hollywood movies. I don't mean big CGI armies charging against other big CGI armies. All that crap still just looks rubbery and fake to me.
I mean it was the last time we'd see major studios taking chances on innovative and unique ideas. You have a decade that starts with Goodfellas and ends with Being John Malkovich.
I've said it before, but I really think 1999 was the last year of really original and groundbreaking movies, and the last renaissance of American cinema since the new wave stuff in the late 70s.
Just look at the movies that came out in 1999 alone.....and forget Phantom Menace....it got all the hype but it was completely outclassed by The Matrix. But you also had Fight Club, Being John Malkovich, The Sixth Sense, American Beauty AND American Pie AND American Movie, Blair Witch Project (which wasn't great but the idea was a game-changer) Iron Giant, South Park, Eyes Wide Shut, Office Space, Magnolia, Toy Story 2, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Go, Election, Run Lola Run, Summer of Sam, 13th Warrior, Three Kings, The Insider, Dogma, Sleepy Hollow, Any Given Sunday, Man on the Moon, and the Talented Mr. Ripley.
Wow.
There's so many good directors and performances in those movies and the plots and subject matter are so diverse and all over the place. I can't believe all those movies came out in the same year, and most of them are still a part of the pop culture lexicon two decades later.
Sadly, we'll never see that much creativity come out of Hollywood cause all they care about is franchises and "cinematic universes" and big Chinese box office returns.
Obviously, I'm biased because I was young in the 90s and everyone looks at their youth with rose-colored glasses, but I think that was the last decade of really groundbreaking Hollywood movies. I don't mean big CGI armies charging against other big CGI armies. All that crap still just looks rubbery and fake to me.
I mean it was the last time we'd see major studios taking chances on innovative and unique ideas. You have a decade that starts with Goodfellas and ends with Being John Malkovich.
I've said it before, but I really think 1999 was the last year of really original and groundbreaking movies, and the last renaissance of American cinema since the new wave stuff in the late 70s.
Just look at the movies that came out in 1999 alone.....and forget Phantom Menace....it got all the hype but it was completely outclassed by The Matrix. But you also had Fight Club, Being John Malkovich, The Sixth Sense, American Beauty AND American Pie AND American Movie, Blair Witch Project (which wasn't great but the idea was a game-changer) Iron Giant, South Park, Eyes Wide Shut, Office Space, Magnolia, Toy Story 2, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Go, Election, Run Lola Run, Summer of Sam, 13th Warrior, Three Kings, The Insider, Dogma, Sleepy Hollow, Any Given Sunday, Man on the Moon, and the Talented Mr. Ripley.
Wow.
There's so many good directors and performances in those movies and the plots and subject matter are so diverse and all over the place. I can't believe all those movies came out in the same year, and most of them are still a part of the pop culture lexicon two decades later.
Sadly, we'll never see that much creativity come out of Hollywood cause all they care about is franchises and "cinematic universes" and big Chinese box office returns.
The irishman was good but studios wouldnt purchase it so poor martin had to go to netflix, its why he started ranting about superhero movies not being cinema. He couldnt give away that movie, its shame too cause its actually really good, old school type character study
I didnt realize how much people liked dirk digler, dont get me wrong i love the move i just never thought of it in that way
I didnt realize how much people liked dirk digler, dont get me wrong i love the move i just never thought of it in that way
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I actually thought that 2019 was a really solid way to close out the decade in cinematic terms. A lot of people jumped on the Parasite band wagon, which is great because the more the merrier, but I have been a Bong Joon Ho fan for a long time.
So for me a single year where I get films from legends like Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino, Terrence Malick AND Bong Joon Ho is cause for celebration.
Then when you throw in some really solid works like Us, Midsommar, 1917, Uncut Gems, JoJo Rabbit, Knives Out (I try to mentally erase the TLJ connection).
The list goes on...yep 2019 was a really great year for cinema.
Any year that delivers 3 genuine masterpieces in the forms of The Irishman, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Parasite is definitely a good one.
So for me a single year where I get films from legends like Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino, Terrence Malick AND Bong Joon Ho is cause for celebration.
Then when you throw in some really solid works like Us, Midsommar, 1917, Uncut Gems, JoJo Rabbit, Knives Out (I try to mentally erase the TLJ connection).
The list goes on...yep 2019 was a really great year for cinema.
Any year that delivers 3 genuine masterpieces in the forms of The Irishman, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Parasite is definitely a good one.
Bong Joon Ho the host fantastic movie, its more my style the parasite to be honest. I loved seeing that ordinary family go all rambo to save their loved one from that creature. Its got humor, action, drama, horror- its the total package
Midsummer is a weird one for me i know alot of people like it i just couldnt get into it, the cult thing just didnt work for me. Once they started bashing in peoples faces that survived the ?faith walk? i was like damn these dumb people need to run for hills, that one smart dude freaked out for a bit but they still stuck around, just wasnt believable for me after that. I felt really bad for the main girl its tough movie to watch
Id rather watch the hills have eyes remake then midsummer again, i love that ****ing movie lol. Its ****ing badass, seeing that yuppie dude turn into a lean mean brutal killing machine in order to get his baby back, best use of the american flag ever in a movie and that dog
But yes once upon a time in Hollywood is classic QT and most definitely a masterpiece, i really hope he doesnt stop making movies like he says he is
Midsummer is a weird one for me i know alot of people like it i just couldnt get into it, the cult thing just didnt work for me. Once they started bashing in peoples faces that survived the ?faith walk? i was like damn these dumb people need to run for hills, that one smart dude freaked out for a bit but they still stuck around, just wasnt believable for me after that. I felt really bad for the main girl its tough movie to watch
Id rather watch the hills have eyes remake then midsummer again, i love that ****ing movie lol. Its ****ing badass, seeing that yuppie dude turn into a lean mean brutal killing machine in order to get his baby back, best use of the american flag ever in a movie and that dog
But yes once upon a time in Hollywood is classic QT and most definitely a masterpiece, i really hope he doesnt stop making movies like he says he is
100 bucks says they don't care..
I know I don't
Personally I am shocked the thread went on as long as it did.
Had I never seen movies about Cults before.. Then maybe Midsommer would have had an effect on me.
I freaking loved Hereditary and think of that film as a modern horror masterpiece.
Midsommer was average at best. I watched the youtube deep dives to make sure I didnt miss anything.. Nope.. I got it
It was just average and a bit too pretentious for my tastes.
TROS > ROTJ
And JAWS, a fellow OT fan since long before most of you were even born, also knows this to be true.
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AOTC > TROS...
AOTC was bad but was not bad enough to actually ruin every other Star Wars movie that came before it...that is some serious bad...you can lump TLJ in with TROS if it helps. They can go on the ash heap together.
AOTC was bad but was not bad enough to actually ruin every other Star Wars movie that came before it...that is some serious bad...you can lump TLJ in with TROS if it helps. They can go on the ash heap together.
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TROS > ROTJ
And JAWS, a fellow OT fan since long before most of you were even born, also knows this to be true.
The two of you should be tarred and feathered.
Ha, and now you reveal that all your pretentious talk about your oh so discerning taste in film was just for show.
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Had I never seen movies about Cults before.. Then maybe Midsommer would have had an effect on me.
I freaking loved Hereditary and think of that film as a modern horror masterpiece.
Midsommer was average at best. I watched the youtube deep dives to make sure I didnt miss anything.. Nope.. I got it
It was just average and a bit too pretentious for my tastes.
Midsommer is not even fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Hereditary.
The two of you should be tarred and feathered.
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O they care. This thread would be dead if they didn?t
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TROS > ROTJ
And JAWS, a fellow OT fan since long before most of you were even born, also knows this to be true.
See. This is how khev gets the fire going again lol
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Speaking of Tarantino, I love most of his movies, but I think he's lost a bit of that edge his scripts used to have. The dialogues are not as sharp as they used to be.
I mean, compare the opening scene in Reservoir Dogs (or basically any scene from Pulp Fiction) to anything in Django or Hateful 8... there's just no comparison in how real the dialogue is. The problem I have with latter Tarantino films is that he takes these genres (Kill Bill - Hong Kong martial arts, Django/Hateful 8 - westerns, Inglorious Basterds - WWII) and makes these sort of satires. I enjoy them (except for Kill Bill, for some reason I really can't sit through those movies), but apart from Pulp Fiction I don't think his movies are masterpieces. Once Upon a Time however, was a return to form in terms of overall quality IMHO.
And since we're discussing great cinema in general, how about the great directors?
Some of my favourites:
- Coppola: For such a famous director, he really only has three indisputable masterpieces, doesn't he? Godfather I & II and Apocalypse Now. Although I must say that I absolutely love his Bram Stoker's Dracula (Keanu ad Winona's cringe-worthy acting notwithstanding). And there's also this odd little movie called Rumble Fish, really interesting, very low-budget, auteur type of deal.
- Scorsese: I suppose his only "bad" movie is New York New York, right? One of my favourite movies of his is often overlooked: After Hours. But can you say about a man who can master genres as diverse as Age of Innocence, Taxi Driver, Wolf of Wall Street, Shutter Island and The Last Temptation? The man is a genius.
- Kubrick: I don't think there's one of his movies that I find fault with. They are all so engrossing and so unique, it's always an amazing experience to sit down and watch them.
- Spielberg: he's got a few duds, but I think few (if any) directors have been able to move so well between blockbusters and "serious" cinema, and sometimes making both in one single movie!
- P.T. Anderson: although I couldn't really get into Phantom Thread, the man who made Boogie Nights, There Will Be Blood, Magnolia and Punch Drunk Love will always get a pass from me.
- The Coen Brothers: Raising Arizona, Fargo, The Big Lebowski, No Country For Old Men...
- Denis Villeneuve: Sicario, Arrival and Blade Runner have quickly established him as one of my favourite directors.
- Danny Boyle: Transporting (talk about influential), 28 Days Later, Slumdog Millionaire, all amazing films. And I know a lot of people hated it, but I thought The Beach was really good.
- Wes Anderson: the man really has a unique style, I love his movies, especially The Royal Tennenbaums, Rushmore and The Grand Budapest Hotel.
- David Fincher: I think some of his first movies, like Seven and Fight Club, must be among the most influential of the late 90's early 00's
- Christopher Nolan: a true visionary in my opinion, his movies are really "larger than life"... Inception, Dunkirk, Memento, Interstellar...
- Alejandro I??rritu: I can't say I'm a true fan of his movies, but they really are amazing.
- Ridley Scott: the man behind two of my most beloved films Alien and Blade Runner, but also the man behind Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Black Hawk Down...
And I could go on and on...
Not to mention the old masters, Hitchcock, David Lean, John Boorman, John Huston, Sergio Leone, Polanski...
I mean, compare the opening scene in Reservoir Dogs (or basically any scene from Pulp Fiction) to anything in Django or Hateful 8... there's just no comparison in how real the dialogue is. The problem I have with latter Tarantino films is that he takes these genres (Kill Bill - Hong Kong martial arts, Django/Hateful 8 - westerns, Inglorious Basterds - WWII) and makes these sort of satires. I enjoy them (except for Kill Bill, for some reason I really can't sit through those movies), but apart from Pulp Fiction I don't think his movies are masterpieces. Once Upon a Time however, was a return to form in terms of overall quality IMHO.
And since we're discussing great cinema in general, how about the great directors?
Some of my favourites:
- Coppola: For such a famous director, he really only has three indisputable masterpieces, doesn't he? Godfather I & II and Apocalypse Now. Although I must say that I absolutely love his Bram Stoker's Dracula (Keanu ad Winona's cringe-worthy acting notwithstanding). And there's also this odd little movie called Rumble Fish, really interesting, very low-budget, auteur type of deal.
- Scorsese: I suppose his only "bad" movie is New York New York, right? One of my favourite movies of his is often overlooked: After Hours. But can you say about a man who can master genres as diverse as Age of Innocence, Taxi Driver, Wolf of Wall Street, Shutter Island and The Last Temptation? The man is a genius.
- Kubrick: I don't think there's one of his movies that I find fault with. They are all so engrossing and so unique, it's always an amazing experience to sit down and watch them.
- Spielberg: he's got a few duds, but I think few (if any) directors have been able to move so well between blockbusters and "serious" cinema, and sometimes making both in one single movie!
- P.T. Anderson: although I couldn't really get into Phantom Thread, the man who made Boogie Nights, There Will Be Blood, Magnolia and Punch Drunk Love will always get a pass from me.
- The Coen Brothers: Raising Arizona, Fargo, The Big Lebowski, No Country For Old Men...
- Denis Villeneuve: Sicario, Arrival and Blade Runner have quickly established him as one of my favourite directors.
- Danny Boyle: Transporting (talk about influential), 28 Days Later, Slumdog Millionaire, all amazing films. And I know a lot of people hated it, but I thought The Beach was really good.
- Wes Anderson: the man really has a unique style, I love his movies, especially The Royal Tennenbaums, Rushmore and The Grand Budapest Hotel.
- David Fincher: I think some of his first movies, like Seven and Fight Club, must be among the most influential of the late 90's early 00's
- Christopher Nolan: a true visionary in my opinion, his movies are really "larger than life"... Inception, Dunkirk, Memento, Interstellar...
- Alejandro I??rritu: I can't say I'm a true fan of his movies, but they really are amazing.
- Ridley Scott: the man behind two of my most beloved films Alien and Blade Runner, but also the man behind Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Black Hawk Down...
And I could go on and on...
Not to mention the old masters, Hitchcock, David Lean, John Boorman, John Huston, Sergio Leone, Polanski...
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Ha, and now you reveal that all your pretentious talk about your oh so discerning taste in film was just for show.
Not really...the difference between you and I is that my taste is discerning enough to recognize that both of those films are garbage...one pile just stinks a tiny bit less than the other...you actually think that one of those movies is good...so I really don?t know what to tell you what that says about your taste...
TROS > ROTJ
And JAWS, a fellow OT fan since long before most of you were even born, also knows this to be true.
AOTC > ESB
That is basically what you just did.
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