Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[YoNoSe]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

She would rather kiss a wookie.

Disney World can arrange that.

Well, a hug at least.

 

[abake]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Thinking about it last night it’s pretty cool how Luke manages to fulfill Rey/Leia’s requests without compromising his beliefs.

He saves the day, while also proving how futile it would have been to show up
in person (he would have been obliterated on sight). Unlike with Vader, Luke knows he will not be the one to reach Kylo. His value to the galaxy really is his inspirational legend. Once he overcomes his guilt and acknowledges that, it’s pretty spectacular how he utilizes it.

So he uses the Force to effect change without doing harm to anyone but himself, without abusing it as a Jedi Power. The only weapons he uses are words.

That's pretty cool, I like that interpretation.
I still have a problem with how we get to that point, how the story is told, but that's a cool interpretation.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Nope RO has problems just like TLJ does. Only 2 perfect SW movies came out in 77/80 you know this to be true.

Can we agree that not all problems are the same??

RO may have problems.. But they are not the same as TLJ

There is no Rose, Holdo, DJ, or Hux in RO

There is no Canto Bight in RO

There is no Slow ass space chase in RO

There are no really really lame jokes in RO.. Not ones that stand out in TLJ


Yeah sorry Jye. TLJ is not even close to being on the same level as RO

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yes Holdo bugs me but not because of her destroying the patriarchy could give 2 craps about that ridiculous noise but because I felt Ackbar had earned a send off of that quality and magnitude.

C’mon at least admit Bor Gullet was a waste of screen time lol

 

[abake]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I don’t see any problems with further exploring chain of command war time behavioral characteristics.

I bet in the history of wars there were heroes who have been reprimanded on their next mission for many of reasons that range from politics to personally conflicts or vice versa bad apples being hailed as heroes.

You 2 are thinking way too small for me c’mon out of the box dammit out of the box lol

The problem with that "exploration" is that it is clumsily done to destroy the myth of the (male) hot-headed hero, sacrificing one of the most important aspects of SW: the idea that you have to question authority and find your own way.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Happy Birthday Old man....

You got me by about 6 months...


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Thanks!!

I do because I can look past the frumpy female asian aesthetics that drives your spazz’s and snikt’s of the world into frothing madness.

Could’ve she been fleshed out better and given a more solid purpose and foundation of course she could’ve but so could’ve many of the RO resistance side characters and no one is complaining about them.

After losing her sister she had no tolerance for weakness going as far as doing a citizens arrest on a resistance hero that she was in awe being in his presence at first until she discovered what he was up to.

DJ’s betrayal certainly had an impact on her as did having a near death execution experience evident by how she learned to honor her sister’s death for the resistance in a different manner which was by saving Finn instead of letting him go out like her sister did.

All of the themes on heroics, selflessness, sacrifice, selfishness and failures connected all of the character arcs into one grand theme of survival for the right reasons.

Again she wasn’t perfect but for a connective side character good enough.

Regarding her acting, zero problems.

Dude.. I got to say.. I think you are a Kathleen Kennedy Apologist.



Rose's acting I guess was fine.. It was that judgmental face that I could not stand looking at.

And I can't help but LOL when she gives her speech about "winning the war by saving those we love" and the laser cannon blast open the door to the resistance right after..


I can only assume that since everyone can have the force that she new Luke would show up. Or she was a spy for the New Order and Luke screwed up her planes to destroy the resistance.. I like the second idea better

Plus she had Anakin/Padme type chemistry with Fin

 

[Chakor]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

C’mon at least admit Bor Gullet was a waste of screen time lol

That he definitely was.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The problem with that "exploration" is that it is clumsily done to destroy the myth of the (male) hot-headed hero, sacrificing one of the most important aspects of SW: the idea that you have to question authority and find your own way.

Didn’t Poe put the “hot head” female Holdo in her place?

Sure seemed like he did when he shoved a gun into her face!

Where was the “tradition” of “finding your own way” sacrificed?!

Poe didn’t find his own way?

Didn’t Leia put him back in charge at the end?

Rey found her own way when she decided to leave Luke!

Kylo found his own way he killed Snoke!

Hell Rian found his own way as a director HE UPHELD YOUR SW TRADITION that you are so embracing yet here you are hating Rian for doing so!

People clumsily pick and choose what to complain about while ignoring the movie that’s right under their noses.

The answers are all in the movie to all these questions.

I mean holy crap you are complaining that they “sacrificed” the SW “tradition” of questioning authority YET Rian had Poe question authority it was all part of his arc lol

Luke even questioned authority!!!

Where was questioning authority sacrificed please show me lol

Oh my head lol

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

No way.. I love Bor Gullet.. I don't know what it is but I find him very likable. And when compared to the characters I mentioned in TLJ he's freaking wonderful.

Plus he gave them their call sign!!!

he was also very heroic at the end like everyone else.

Bor Gullet was running around being a likable hero at the end?? Was that how Edwards originally edited the final battle? Damn you Gilroy!!!

 

[abake]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I'm in agreement that it seems like the FO could have taken out Leia's ship instead of simply keeping pace with it. But I also agree that Tarkin could have just blown up Yavin instead of orbiting it or the Empire could have just sent TIE Bombers under the Hoth shield instead of AT-AT's and wiped out the Rebels before they even left the ground. I guess the Empire/FO just likes to savor all the little emotions instead of going for the quick kill.

Wait a minute...

Tarkin had to orbit Yavin in order to get to the moon where the rebel base, right? Blowing up Yavin didn't mean they would necessarily destroy the moon with the base on it.
As for the bombers on Hoth, the Rebels had air support that could shoot down the bombers, whereas it was much more difficult to destroy the armoured AT-AT's, so the ground attack made perfect sense.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Bor Gullet was running around being a likable hero at the end?? Was that how Edwards originally edited the final battle? Damn you Gilroy!!!

LOL Oh the Squid thing.. LOL


The one thing I will say that is bad about RO is I cant remember anyone's names... I typed in Bor and the Pilot is who came up


Now I have to go back and edit out all my stupid comments..


I blame Old Age

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

LOL Oh the Squid thing.. LOL


The one thing I will say that is bad about RO is I cant remember anyone's names... I typed in Bor and the Pilot is who came up

Wow your defense and 100% love of RO is crumbling like a sand castle in a tsunami lol

Googling the characters really JAWS lol

You’re like Sorento in RPO you need Khev in your ear piece before debating with me

 

[JAWS]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yes Holdo bugs me but not because of her destroying the patriarchy could give 2 craps about that ridiculous noise but because I felt Ackbar had earned a send off of that quality and magnitude.

C’mon at least admit Bor Gullet was a waste of screen time lol

Ok Now I got my bearings

Bor Gullet was in the film for such a small about of time that I have no issues with it other then it is said that one tends to lose their mind when he reads their thoughts.. and of course the pilot did not... So that was silly.

But I will take a 30 sec sequence of Bor Gullet over any of those characters I mentioned any day

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Ok Now I got my bearings

Bor Gullet was in the film for such a small about of time that I have no issues with it other then it is said that one tends to lose their mind when he reads their thoughts.. and of course the pilot did not... So that was silly.

But I will take a 30 sec sequence of Bor Gullet over any of those characters I mentioned any day

I prefer RO to TLJ as well i’m just busting your ass

But some of these TLJ complaints are embarrassing.

 

[abake]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The Force......

No other answers needed.....

Kinda the same for how did a bunch of Teddy Bears beat an Imperial Garrison.....

Actually, rewatching ROTJ a few months back, the Ewok battle made a lot more sense. The Imperial troops were massacring the Ewoks and only when Chewie gets on the AT-ST does the tide turn. So it wasn't that silly after all.
But it still is. A bit.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Wow your defense and 100% love of RO is crumbling like a sand castle in a tsunami lol

Googling the characters really JAWS lol

You’re like Sorento in RPO you need Khev in your ear piece before debating with me

Dude other then Jyn.. I cant remember anyones names in that film

You should see me at work.. Luckily I work in a Hospital so I can just call most of the providers Doc

I suck with names.. Always have.

I called "A Quiet Place" the "Sound of Silence" for three months.. And that was even after watching trailers for it appear before every film

 

[JAWS]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I prefer RO to TLJ as well i’m just busting your ass

But some of these TLJ complaints are embarrassing.

Dude I am use to it.. All my friends look at me in amazement when I forget the name of someone I just met 30 seconds ago..

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Dude other then Jyn.. I cant remember anyones names

You should see me at work.. Luckily I work in a Hospital so I can just call most of the providers Doc

I suck with names.. Always have.

I called "A Quiet Place" the "Sound of Silence" for three months.. And that was even after watching trailers for it appear before every film

I started off as a phlebotomist in a hospital setting

 

[JAWS]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I started off as a phlebotomist in a hospital setting

Whats up Doc



OK you were not a Doc but It had to be said.

I am a trainer... I teach the Electronic Health records and how to use them to all the new Doc's and Nurses.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Wait a minute...

Tarkin had to orbit Yavin in order to get to the moon where the rebel base, right? Blowing up Yavin didn't mean they would necessarily destroy the moon with the base on it.

1. Blow up Yavin
2. See if it took the rebel moon with it
3. If the moon is still there destroy it with one final unobstructed shot

vs. orbiting the planet for 30 minutes while the Rebels attack you and/or the entire Alliance simply gets on ships and evacuates the solar system.

As for the bombers on Hoth, the Rebels had air support that could shoot down the bombers, whereas it was much more difficult to destroy the armoured AT-AT's, so the ground attack made perfect sense.

You literally just described the mindset as to why Hux didn't send bombers after Leia. Well done.

As for Hoth, yeah, definitely best to give the rebels 20 extra minutes to escape rather than losing some bombers to the Rebels' three turrets. That totally sounds like Vader in ESB, looking out for the lives of his own men as he zero'd in on Skywalker, lol.