Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[JAWS]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Truth...

But it’s because of one simple fact....everyone is ignoring...

It’s become fashionable for the geek set to repel geek culture that has become mainstream.... it happened to SW before after ROTJ....

With every major film release it’s a rush on social media to be the first person to hate a film....cause if you hate your cool and ahead of the curve....

It’s a risk to say you LOVE something because you open yourself up to criticism and ridicule .....

Hate is safer.....

It will happen with Infinity War....Deadpool and every major upcoming release.

Geeks will destroy their own golden age of films.....

Excuse me.. I just threw up in my mouth a little

Guess anyone who did not like the PT were just geeks hating it because it was safer... Jye and Khev that is very shallow of you

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Now I am not saying that what you have said above is not 100% false... But it is yet another way to ignore the fact that there are plenty of people out there that have legitimate issues with the film. Its like saying "The only possible way anyone can not like this film is if they are just trying to be fashionable..
It's the same if I said "The only reason so called "fans" of this film like it is because they just love anything with the SW name stamped on it regardless of quality." ​

I will post the same thing I posted a few pages back with regards to the "haters' Being at opening night pf Episode 9 and Solo a SW movie. I would make somewhat the same rebuttal to the above quote.

Of course TLJ haters will be there.. They will be there because they love SW... Its why they go on and on.. It's why the fans have gone on and on... Its why I have gone on and on... We all love SW. If this was some generic franchise we would not all be ignoring our loved ones just to post opinions to a bunch of strangers :LOL But we do because we love SW ​

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I complained about TLJ because I love SW
I gave TLJ a chance because I love SW
I found some things to like about TLJ because I love SW.
I am still very frustrated with TLJ because I love SW


Everyone needs to remember that We love this franchise and so the heat gets raised a bit more then it will for the average film. I think because people love it so much they become protective of it and they have a hard time understanding how anyone could not agree with them. After all chances are we all love SW for the same reason so how can we see this film so differently??

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Yeah...but I cannot get my head around sinking time and energy into hating something...makes sense to spend time on something you love...why not just move on from something you hate...I loved Transformers as a child and seeing the animated Transformers: The Movie as a 10 year old was life changing. I hate what Michael Bay has done to Transformers but I don't really spend a lot of time thinking about it...can't imagine spending my day on the internet talking about how much I hate what Bay did to my childhood heroes...I just put that energy into enjoying things that I actually like...kinda makes sense...

Again I will point to what I said above.... It's the love of all things SW that keeps many coming back.. Its why I have.. Go look at any of the Transformers threads on here and you will hardly find any posts form me there because they are trash films that I have no love for to begin with... Hell go look at any Harry Potter thread and you will find little to no post by me there also... And I like those films but would not say I love them...

But I love SW and TLJ has really split the fans down the middle.. So the argument is easy to continue because (I will say it again) both sides LOVE SW. Its why either side has spent so much time posting about this film.

Besides do you really want a circle jerk were everyone just agrees with each other and talk about how good they feel?

Personally I have not laughed as much as I have in these SW threads with comments from both camps. The key is to not take it personally and just understand its all being said because people love the subject.

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I can't wait to throw this back at you. One day you too will hate a movie yet talk about the upcoming sequel. It is inevitable. Indiana Jones perhaps? Jaws 6? Skull Island 2? There will be something.

It was called Transformers 2, hated it so much I never saw another one.

Even KOTCS had enough in it for me not to completely hate it.

 

[Magpie 7]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I strongly disliked AOTC but it didn't stop me watching and enjoying ROTS, i'm going into Ep9 hoping for a similar experience.

 

[crows]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Disliking a movie does not necessarily equal "basher," troll, etc.

Plenty of reasonable people watch a movie, don't care for it, and then carry on with their lives without spamming every discussion about it with repetitive attention seeking garbage. Those who feel the need to conduct such behavior *will* be back each and every year with each and every release. Of that I have no doubt.

Name 5 non haters that disliked the movie... i double dare you

You cant can you? Can you?

 

[punisher1974]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Not watching the video, but that thumbnail is an Oh face if I ever saw one.

An **** oh face at that

 

[Deeznutz6]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Every single TLJ hater that sees (and complains) about episode 9, has absolutely no credibility on any post they make complaining about that movie. If you truly hate TLJ as much as you say you do, then you'll stay far away from the next one.

Agree, and I hated TLJ

Now it shouldn't stop me from seeing the next one, but to I'm fool if I complain about

Transformers is a great example

 

[crows]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Agree, and I hated TLJ

Now it shouldn't stop me from seeing the next one, but to I'm fool if I complain about

Transformers is a great example

Rushmore is completely and absolutely wrong because the fact that JJ is coming back is enough to make everyone want to see it back.

Also human beings are completists and we feel the need to finish what we started.

It is nothing but human nature to want to finish what we began. As painful as it is.
Combine that with our sense of curiosity and u have a full theater.

So rushmore is literally attacking human nature.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It was called Transformers 2, hated it so much I never saw another one.

But did you talk about the sequel?

BTW, regarding Transformers, I left after viewing the first one.

 

[crows]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

But did you talk about the sequel?

BTW, regarding Transformers, I left after viewing the first one.

Transformers doesnt really have a good continuous story from movie to movie

They kinda made it up as they went along. Theres no big important connection between movies. Not like star wars

 

[Chakor]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Transformers doesnt really have a good continuous story from movie to movie

They kinda made it up as they went along. Theres no big important connection between movies. Not like star wars

TFA and TLJ are exactly like Transformers - no consistent stories, just random and ham-handed events (the latter much more so, but still).

 

[crows]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

TFA and TLJ are exactly like Transformers - no consistent stories, just random and ham-handed events (the latter much more so, but still).

Thats thanks to idiot rian.
You just confirmed he made this franchisr into transformers.

But JJ coming back is enough to make me wanna see how he fix this crap pile.


Thats like if uillermo del toro came back to pacific rim 3.
I would be curious to see what he did

 

[xipotec]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Just finished my 3rd viewing and it’s safe to say it’s gotten better for me as a film.

No need to refute what I am saying , we have heard the arguments before , this is mainly posted to those who liked the film, in an attempt to discuss a few things I noticed this time...

Most of the “shock” scenes everyone hated just didn’t bother me at all...even one of the scenes I was bothered by actually was enjoyable this viewing (space Leia). Canto Blight still feels forced and unneeded, but I like the DJ character quite a bit. BB8’a parts during that still bothers me , and this viewing made me not really like BB8 much at all in TLJ. His scene in the hanger on the ATST was the most bothersome scene.

I notice a few thing about the main new force power....projection.

Kylo has water on himself after the force meeting with Rey....so there is some physical component to it. I think Luke was able to make the dice appear in real spacetime.....and I think he was able to touch Leia .....it’s almost like a variation on the telepathy based on how powerful you are.

The Force, according to Luke is not something people should feel is a power to them. He seems to be directing Rey to look at it as a connection between Things, this theme seems to be the driving force between Kylo and Rey...

Disney seems to want to get away from the old story of Empire vs Rebels...by going back to the roots of the “spark” or the Rebellion. So , in basically we will see the rebels become the underdogs again. And possibly the birth of a new Jedi order that does not suffer from the “hubris” of the original Jedi.

Luke , I believe , had the most truthful telling of what happened between himself and Kylo....once again the grey truth , not the simple black and white of OT and PT.

I saw a lot more , and will post that next time....

Like Rey seeing Kylos future , which came true, and Klyo seeing Rey’s future which also came true...just not what they expected...

And Leias clear handoff of the story to the new cast...


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[crows]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Just finished my 3rd viewing and it’s safe to say it’s gotten better for me as a film.

No need to refute what I am saying , we have heard the arguments before , this is mainly posted to those who liked the film, in an attempt to discuss a few things I noticed this time...

Most of the “shock” scenes everyone hated just didn’t bother me at all...even one of the scenes I was bothered by actually was enjoyable this viewing (space Leia). Canto Blight still feels forced and unneeded, but I like the DJ character quite a bit. BB8’a parts during that still bothers me , and this viewing made me not really like BB8 much at all in TLJ. His scene in the hanger on the ATST was the most bothersome scene.

I notice a few thing about the main new force power....projection.

Kylo has water on himself after the force meeting with Rey....so there is some physical component to it. I think Luke was able to make the dice appear in real spacetime.....and I think he was able to touch Leia .....it’s almost like a variation on the telepathy based on how powerful you are.

The Force, according to Luke is not something people should feel is a power to them. He seems to be directing Rey to look at it as a connection between Things, this theme seems to be the driving force between Kylo and Rey...

Disney seems to want to get away from the old story of Empire vs Rebels...by going back to the roots of the “spark” or the Rebellion. So , in basically we will see the rebels become the underdogs again. And possibly the birth of a new Jedi order that does not suffer from the “hubris” of the original Jedi.

Luke , I believe , had the most truthful telling of what happened between himself and Kylo....once again the grey truth , not the simple black and white of OT and PT.

I saw a lot more , and will post that next time....

Like Rey seeing Kylos future , which came true, and Klyo seeing Rey’s future which also came true...just not what they expected...

And Leias clear handoff of the story to the new cast...


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This is a nice and thick post, like a full course meal kind of post.
This post could feed a family of four. This is the kfc bucket of delicious posts.
Thank u my bro, i was getting hungry

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Good catch on the water drops on Kylo's hand. I never linked that to Luke touching Leia. Rey seemed to react as if Kylo's fingers were physically touching her as well so from here on out I'll take it as Luke really kissing Leia at the end. I like the idea of the Force projection providing a very limited form of physical contact and am glad that the film does indeed support that notion after all.

 

[jal76]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Just finished my 3rd viewing and it’s safe to say it’s gotten better for me as a film.

No need to refute what I am saying , we have heard the arguments before , this is mainly posted to those who liked the film, in an attempt to discuss a few things I noticed this time...

Most of the “shock” scenes everyone hated just didn’t bother me at all...even one of the scenes I was bothered by actually was enjoyable this viewing (space Leia). Canto Blight still feels forced and unneeded, but I like the DJ character quite a bit. BB8’a parts during that still bothers me , and this viewing made me not really like BB8 much at all in TLJ. His scene in the hanger on the ATST was the most bothersome scene.

I notice a few thing about the main new force power....projection.

Kylo has water on himself after the force meeting with Rey....so there is some physical component to it. I think Luke was able to make the dice appear in real spacetime.....and I think he was able to touch Leia .....it’s almost like a variation on the telepathy based on how powerful you are.

The Force, according to Luke is not something people should feel is a power to them. He seems to be directing Rey to look at it as a connection between Things, this theme seems to be the driving force between Kylo and Rey...

Disney seems to want to get away from the old story of Empire vs Rebels...by going back to the roots of the “spark” or the Rebellion. So , in basically we will see the rebels become the underdogs again. And possibly the birth of a new Jedi order that does not suffer from the “hubris” of the original Jedi.

Luke , I believe , had the most truthful telling of what happened between himself and Kylo....once again the grey truth , not the simple black and white of OT and PT.

I saw a lot more , and will post that next time....

Like Rey seeing Kylos future , which came true, and Klyo seeing Rey’s future which also came true...just not what they expected...

And Leias clear handoff of the story to the new cast...


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I liked it the first time that I saw it but definitely felt a bit challenged by it in some respects. The Blu Ray has definitely taught me that this is a film that really benefits from repeat viewings.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

So Ben was sitting on that rock afterall in ROTJ.

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

So Ben was sitting on that rock afterall in ROTJ.

One less thing to criticize ROTJ for.

 

[xipotec]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Good catch on the water drops on Kylo's hand. I never linked that to Luke touching Leia. Rey seemed to react as if Kylo's fingers were physically touching her as well so from here on out I'll take it as Luke really kissing Leia at the end. I like the idea of the Force projection providing a very limited form of physical contact and am glad that the film does indeed support that notion after all.

Yeah I think it has something to do with the “link” between people....Luke and Leia share and link, and Kylo and Rey also share a link.

I am not totally convinced that they are not related....I feel like Rian May have thrown out some serious Red Herrings and a lot of us fell for it...

The Jedi symbol at the temple has a Yin Yang motif....which suggest Light cannot exist without dark....as Snoke also says the dark rises and the light come to meet it....




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[Boba Ben]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Double force projection, bros. Luke on Ahch-To was an illusion to test whoever found him and Rey has failed the test. Real Luke is still alive, but doubtful of Rey's ability to carry on the Jedi into the future because she gave up on the defeated Luke she found on the island, unlike Luke who never gave up on Vader who had fully turned to the dark side.

Rose Tico is a First Order spy who actually was trying to destroy the Resistance from within. That's why she smashed into Finn's ski speeder when he was trying to stop the First Order cannon from blasting a hole into the base where the very last remnants of the Resistance was hiding. Maybe an order from Hux was given for the AT-AT squad to hold fire because he had sent her on the mission personally and figured she would be of more use alive than dead. It could also be revealed that she secretly provided the information about the Resistance's escape plans rather than DJ if they want to bring him back as a Han Solo type heroic rogue character that does the right thing in the end, just wish he didn't have that stutter.

Just a couple Episode 9 ideas from me.

 

[loki2371]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Every single TLJ hater that sees (and complains) about episode 9, has absolutely no credibility on any post they make complaining about that movie. If you truly hate TLJ as much as you say you do, then you'll stay far away from the next one.

So, by your logic, any fan that liked the OT but was unhappy with TPM should've then ended their SW Fandom right then and there. Never watching the rest of the PT, not watched the new ST or RO, or have any interest in Solo even though they loved the character of Han Solo in the OT, correct?

I do believe most PT haters watched all 3. I don't know anyone who watched ep1, then didn't watch ep2 or ep3 cause they didn't like ep1. Or watched ep1 and liked it, then watched ep2 and didn't, so they didn't bother watching ep3 to finish the trilogy.

Out of 9 movies I liked 8. I love the OT, I enjoyed the PT, loved RO, enjoyed TFA, but my displeasure with TLJ means I should never watch another SW movie again. I should skip Solo and not even bother with EP9, even though JJ has a shot at fixing what I didn't like about TLJ even if I liked what HE was setting up yet was squandered by Johnson.

I guess if my favorite group/band comes out with a bad album, or even one bad song I should stop listening to any new music they produce ever again.

Thanks for the tip. Maybe I am insane.