Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[Chakor]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I don't even want to get into Ragnarok...

Please do. I am one of the few here who can sympathize.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Please do. I am one of the few here who can sympathize.

Then I feel your pain. I loved the first Thor. I thought it was as good of a rendition of cb Thor as could be expected in a mass-market movie for today's audiences. It took itself seriously enough, while knowing what it was. Ragnarok took all of that and basically said, "Thor, and everything about the setting, characters, and themes within the brand need to be turned into a joke because we don't want to have to keep making movies that feel too different from the rest of the MCU - the way Thor should." I don't know; I even felt insulted watching it. Really wish I hadn't. Thankful for the first one, though!

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The worldwide success and pop culture impact of the MCU in the last ten years shows that it's possible to not only match previous success but get better. How long will it last? Who knows? It's a different type of franchise, so it might not be a fair comparison, since they didn't peak with the first or second film, instead, they have grown over the years, never taking time off, let alone 16 years like the PT or the ST.

MCU is indeed a WW phenomenon now it sure took long enough though remember when it was a dud in Hollywood for like 40 years!

SW showed up in 77 all by its lonesome with no prior history (other than what GL copied) and conquered the world (not China though lol) and it didn’t have no Stan Lee doing interviews for 45 years before the MCU struck gold.

AEG is more anticipated than IX though so that’s a nice accomplishment....you know for the same studio that owns BOTH

lol

Maul could have been the most popular SW character ever. The Maul hype was real in 1999. He was arguably cooler than Vader. He was agile, a better fighter, had presence without even talking. It's almost as if Mr. Vader himself felt threaten by the young cool buck, and had him killed like that young cool dude in Shawshank Redemption. Maul was gunned down...or cut in half in his prime, underdeveloped and never given a proper chance or push (wrestling terminology) to reach his full potential. He's been relegated to crappy cartoons where's he's a crazy spider and killed like a punk by Obi Wan and countless fan made videos on You Tube. The tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise has nothing on the tragedy of Maul. He's fat now, and doing pointless cameos in prequels that bomb at the box office.

Ouch!

 

[Chakor]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Then I feel your pain. I loved the first Thor. I thought it was as good of a rendition of cb Thor as could be expected in a mass-market movie for today's audiences. It took itself seriously enough, while knowing what it was. Ragnarok took all of that and basically said, "Thor, and everything about the setting, characters, and themes within the brand need to be turned into a joke because we don't want to have to keep making movies that feel too different from the rest of the MCU - the way Thor should." I don't know; I even felt insulted watching it. Really wish I hadn't. Thankful for the first one, though!

The first Thor is actually my second favorite movie in the MCU next to the original Avengers. I know a lot of people tend to consider it a dud because 50% of it takes place on Earth, but the soundtrack and Asgard visuals are breathtaking and Loki's development in that film alone blows away anything in dull Thor 2 and trainwreck Thor 3 IMO.

I too felt extremely insulted by Thor 3 mainly due to the nonstop comedy, but I have since made peace with the comedic aspects of the film (aside from the final battle) and my main reason for disliking it/feeling insulted by it is the horribly underwritten and completely disposable main villain who was just a Loki clone but without most of the character qualities that made Loki work so well. Even the writer Eric Pearson mentioned in a Yahoo interview that he thought making Hela Thor's sister was a bad idea when he proposed it to Kevin Feige and seemed surprised when Feige actually thought it was a good idea and approved it.

Plus in Thor 3 Loki doesn't get enough to do, the Doctor Strange cameo is too short, Thor is at his least funny, Hulk is at his silliest, and the Asgard sets looked like a cheap Game of Thrones set instead of the gold and grand Asgard from Thor 1. Then of course there is the trainwreck of a final battle that has no weight to it mainly due to, again, the villain's terrible writing and partly the comedy... Bleah...

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Ouch!

I feel bad for those people who got Maul tattoos in 1999. The only saving grace might be that those 20 year old tattoos now look like the current Maul in Solo.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Right back at ya, jye! Thanks.

Cool i’m allowed supervised visitation only 1 day a month

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Maul could have been the most popular SW character ever. The Maul hype was real in 1999. He was arguably cooler than Vader. He was agile, a better fighter, had presence without even talking. It's almost as if Mr. Vader himself felt threaten by the young cool buck, and had him killed like that young cool dude in Shawshank Redemption. Maul was gunned down...or cut in half in his prime, underdeveloped and never given a proper chance or push (wrestling terminology) to reach his full potential. He's been relegated to crappy cartoons where's he's a crazy spider and killed like a punk by Obi Wan and countless fan made videos on You Tube. The tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise has nothing on the tragedy of Maul. He's fat now, and doing pointless cameos in prequels that bomb at the box office.

Like the Prequels themselves, he really was a missed opportunity.

The side prequel villains on paper and design are all really, really cool. Darth Maul, Count Dooku, Jango Fett, General Grievous all had potential to be more if the focus was on them. They could have rivaled Vader and Tarkin if they were depicted better. Having 4 different villains within the trilogy in addition to Palpatine and Anakin is just too much.

I like the concept of a mysterious Sith assassin that’s tracking the Queen. I like the idea of a bounty hunter that is so narcissistic he has a clone son that he raises as his own. I think the idea of a wise Jedi Master who abandoned the order and rebels as this anti-Ben Kenobi foil is fantastic. A cyborg general that is the leader of the robot army that hunts and kills Jedi and takes their lightsabers as trophies? That’s brilliant. They’re all great designs and concepts but I think it was wrong to feature them all. They’re all disposed of so quickly and they’re all under utilized. I know the point was that they’d be expanded upon in cartoons, books and comics as supplemental material for the movies, but they’re just wasted potential in my eyes. They should have taken Maul, Jango, Dooku and Grievous and narrowed them down to two villains. Just combine traits of Maul, Dooku and Grievous as one guy and have Jango be his go to henchmen or something. I don’t know. Attack of the Clones is the biggest offender though. Not only do you have Sidious > Dooku > Jango but then you have that shape shifting bounty hunter chick as an underling to Jango and the mysterious Jedi that ordered the clones and never revealed or mentioned again. Why? That whole movie has too much.

Still way better side antagonists than Hux, Phasma and Snoke though. I can wait to see how they use Captain Phasma again!

 

[ajp4mgs]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I feel bad for those people who got Maul tattoos in 1999. The only saving grace might be that those 20 year old tattoos now look like the current Maul in Solo.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The worldwide success and pop culture impact of the MCU in the last ten years shows that it's possible to not only match previous success but get better. How long will it last? Who knows? It's a different type of franchise, so it might not be a fair comparison, since they didn't peak with the first or second film, instead, they have grown over the years, never taking time off, let alone 16 years like the PT or the ST.

Maul could have been the most popular SW character ever. The Maul hype was real in 1999. He was arguably cooler than Vader. He was agile, a better fighter, had presence without even talking. It's almost as if Mr. Vader himself felt threaten by the young cool buck, and had him killed like that young cool dude in Shawshank Redemption. Maul was gunned down...or cut in half in his prime, underdeveloped and never given a proper chance or push (wrestling terminology) to reach his full potential. He's been relegated to crappy cartoons where's he's a crazy spider and killed like a punk by Obi Wan and countless fan made videos on You Tube. The tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise has nothing on the tragedy of Maul. He's fat now, and doing pointless cameos in prequels that bomb at the box office.

I feel bad for those people who got Maul tattoos in 1999. The only saving grace might be that those 20 year old tattoos now look like the current Maul in Solo.

Fat Maul

Imagine me the one geek of my family sitting with all of my siblings opening night TPM thinking “Thank God for that Maul battle that will save me” and then when the lights finally went on on what felt like an eternity they all looked at me with disgust and said “Sorry little bro”

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Like the Prequels themselves, he really was a missed opportunity.

The side prequel villains on paper and design are all really, really cool. Darth Maul, Count Dooku, Jango Fett, General Grievous all had potential to be more if the focus was on them. They could have rivaled Vader and Tarkin if they were depicted better. Having 4 different villains within the trilogy in addition to Palpatine and Anakin is just too much.

I like the concept of a mysterious Sith assassin that’s tracking the Queen. I like the idea of a bounty hunter that is so narcissistic he has a clone son that he raises as his own. I think the idea of a wise Jedi Master who abandoned the order and rebels as this anti-Ben Kenobi foil is fantastic. A cyborg general that is the leader of the robot army that hunts and kills Jedi and takes their lightsabers as trophies? That’s brilliant. They’re all great designs and concepts but I think it was wrong to feature them all. They’re all disposed of so quickly and they’re all under utilized. I know the point was that they’d be expanded upon in cartoons, books and comics as supplemental material for the movies, but they’re just wasted potential in my eyes. They should have taken Maul, Jango, Dooku and Grievous and narrowed them down to one villain. Just combine traits of Maul, Dooku and Grievous as one guy and have Jango be his go to henchmen or something. I don’t know. Attack of the Clones is the biggest offender though. Not only do you have Sidious > Dooku > Jango but then you have that shape shifting bounty hunter chick as an underling to Jango and the mysterious Jedi that ordered the clones and never revealed or mentioned again. Why? That whole movie has too much.

Still way better side antagonists than Hux, Phasma and Snoke though. I can wait to see how they use Captain Phasma again!

I will give you Phasma a complete let down you know just like 90% of the PT....ehhh make that 95%.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I can wait to see how they use Captain Phasma again!

TFA - "Death" by trash chute

TLJ - "Death" by fall and fire

Ep 9 …..

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I will give you Phasma a complete let down you know just like 90% of the PT....ehhh make that 95%.

It’s not just the Prequels though. 95% of Star Wars as a whole is disappointing my son. Just look at the 10 theatrical movies alone, less than half of them are any good and that’s being generous. As a whole, there’s way more bad than good, with only two films being really standing out as something truly special. You throw in all those terrible things from other media, and it’s even worse. Those crappy comics out now where they just trace over existing reference photos is just as bad as the crazy stories from the 90s. It’s junk.

There’s a lot of stuff that make up Star Wars and most of it is garbage. Since the early 2000s the franchise has sucked. It’s only held up by the few things that made it great in the beginning with those things being constantly recycled.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It’s not just the Prequels though. 95% of Star Wars is disappointing my son. Just looking at the 10 theatrical movies alone. As a whole there’s more bad than good, with only two films being really, really good. You throw in all those terrible things from other media, and it’s even worse. Those crappy comics out now where they just trace over existing reference photos is just as bad as the crazy stories from the 90s. It’s junk.

I mean yeah sure you’re technically right I have always maintained that BUT c’mon Fabs let your hair down and live a little will ya it’s like you’re the living embodiment of Snyder’s DCEU vision lol

You’re the green apple of the apple family

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The DCEU and Snyder suck too. Unlike Star Wars’ track record, everyone of those DC movies sucked (though I never saw Justice League, Wonder Woman or Aquaman). I hope that Snyder cut is never released.

Granny Smiths are my favorite you little *****. They’re more crisp than the other apples and I love that tart taste.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019



I put salt on mine

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Jesus, keep that up and and you’re gonna hnnnnnnng. Don’t you want to live to see Stah Wahs Episode LXIII?


Put peanut butter on your apple slices bro, you’ll live longer.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Oh look I found a before and after TPM opening night photo of me.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Jesus, keep that up and and you’re gonna hnnnnnnng. Don’t you want to live to see Stah Wahs Episode LXIII?


Put peanut butter on your apple slices bro, you’ll live longer.

PB!?!

I have to try that.

I’ll get back to you tomorrow on it lol

Wait PB on an apple....umm ok lol

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Oh look I found a before and after TPM opening night photo of me.

That’s how unexpected pregnancies happen.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

That’s how pregnancies happen.


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Was he trying to imply something about Shmii’s pregnancy to Anakin there

Hey sit lets have a talk just ignore those giant sperms floating around in the giant egg lol