Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Well, see, I don't agree:peace. Keeping in mind I like visuals that strike me, and get a lot from that. Also re any movie there may or may not be a lot to cram in within 2 hours - which is why I like the new streaming shows like Good Omens and Mandalorian so much. (E.g., u can binge watch a *really long movie*. Or not. These shows to me are able to do what's essentially a loooooooong movie that hopefully is well edited for break points or chapters. )

ANYWAY within the time frame of TFA I think a good job was set up for Finn - the visual of the bloody hand slipping away against white; he's breathing hard, the dark line of anonymous Stormtroopers, the ominous silhouette of Kylo, the flames, the obvious slaughter of entire village. And THEN Phasma *metaphorically* trashes him. Later he's even described as a number - almost like the First Order is talking about a robot that went haywire.

I hear yah about DETAILS but *family audience*:horror. Off the top of my head, Bucky in Civil War with the other Winter Soldiers is about as harsh as I remember for family audience movies, or the torture in WS. Rey's tortures don't get that dark, visually. The MCU/SW/Disney are pretty bloodless.

Also I saw Finn as one of those more resilient people - a nobody janitor/stormtrooper/number, but just one of those people who can keep a good heart, (like even thru a &^%$ job and poverty etc). I don't d*mn Boyega for being able to pull off humor - IMO it's one of the hardest things to do for an actor. Laffed my *ss off:lol at that scene between Han and him "we'll use the Force!" I mean, not everyone has to be Chadwick Boseman (who can also do humor).

Also I thought the scene where he gets honest with Rey and asks her to come with him was really well done. It's good IMO she instantly isn't fazed, as *realistically* she too knows what it's like to be a nobody; maybe to lie just to be SOMEONE, anyone, and not disposable nothing.

So, overall, for me TFA is "alright":chug. Lot of re-hash and fan service, but acceptable. Some refreshing new characters and some great visuals.

And then - well - some spectacular visuals. Some interesting ideas. And IMO strained writing and lots of stupidity:pfft:, including the unbelievably forced relationship with Rose. IMO BS where I, personally, can seen how life might have disillusioned Luke - especially since a lot of students died at Kylo's rampage *guilt* - but I don't believe he would've turned his back when Rey said she needed help. Especially when an untrained Force-powerful would be so much worse left untrained, and she flat-out says she's afraid. WTF. And Luke knows Kylo is already aware of her e.g. left wandering around of course she'd be a target. WTF.:banghead

Re Finn and Rose - well, yeah, OK, fangirl, except through their whole interaction, there's no sidelong looks from Rose that I remember at Finn. Ok, maybe when they are both gonna die, but that'd be pretty normal with prisoners who are even total strangers. Heck, even Finn looks kinda blank and baffled at the end over it. She's pretty business-like. Also IMO it gets patronizing, really, lecture, lecture, lecture. This is NOT establishing chemistry. WTF. (Long way away from the almost quasi-seduction re Kylo when Kylo meets Rey in TFA.) It's more like "Rose luvs Finn, cool, yah?":banghead And if u wanna support feminism, why did Rose have to be in luv with anyone at all?:banghead

Never mind Poppins-Leia and the nonsense of not just telling THE PLAN.:pfft:

Sorry for bein' long-winded - just I don't d*mn characters that I thought got good intros in TFA for the &^% writing that showed up in TLJ - 'coz thank gawd there was gonna be another movie. But yeah, TLJ should've been, like, the Two Towers or something; maybe one of the best of a trilogy. (Still can't believe with some stuff that an editor didn't call it out during TLJ filming). But, gonna be a bit optimistic that some of the backlash and complete logic breakdowns were heard for ROS. :grouphug

It didn?t hurt that Finn-Rey first meet up was immediately followed by an amazing Falcon escape sequence especially in Imax 3D that was and remains incredible.

Don?t get yourself caught up with the individuals here who hate every single second of TFA-TLJ it?s a very boring discussion path to find yourself on.

I learn more from those that present balanced views usually literally with a 50/50 love hate relationship with the ST.

Hell I even find good stuff in the PT like the music and end credits.



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Hell I even find good stuff in the PT like the music and end credits.



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:lol

I'll do you one better. I like the moment right before the 20th century fox logo at the start where I break out in a fit of laughter and hit the stop button saying ''like I was gonna watch that again''.

though earlier this year I actually did let them play all the way through - just because we must never forget....
 
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I'll do you one better. I like the moment right before the 20th century fox logo at the start where I break out in a fit of laughter and hit the stop button saying ''like I was gonna watch that again''.

though earlier this year I actually did let them play all the way through - just because we must never forget....

lol

It does take quite the courage and stamina to actually sit thru them entirely.


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It didn?t hurt that Finn-Rey first meet up was immediately followed by an amazing Falcon escape sequence especially in Imax 3D that was and remains incredible.

Don?t get yourself caught up with the individuals here who hate every single second of TFA-TLJ it?s a very boring discussion path to find yourself on.

I learn more from those that present balanced views usually literally with a 50/50 love hate relationship with the ST.

Hell I even find good stuff in the PT like the music and end credits.



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*Smiles*:duff

I get movie-rage tho, I really do. My head practically exploded over Infinity War and my poor bro had to listen to me *b^t&#* all the way home and then there was the Captain Marvel thing (he luvs, I had different opinion) but we'll still be in our seats for ROS with the collectible popcorn buckets.

'Coz it's Star Wars and anyway all is forgiven with the Mandalorian - which IMO as of yesterday for me is on my top 10 of "most incredible ever and gotta get the fig" list even if I'm broke! I need a green Plushie! And a poster!:cool:
 
*Smiles*:duff

I get movie-rage tho, I really do. My head practically exploded over Infinity War and my poor bro had to listen to me *b^t&#* all the way home and then there was the Captain Marvel thing (he luvs, I had different opinion) but we'll still be in our seats for ROS with the collectible popcorn buckets.

'Coz it's Star Wars and anyway all is forgiven with the Mandalorian - which IMO as of yesterday for me is on my top 10 of "most incredible ever and gotta get the fig" list even if I'm broke! I need a green Plushie! And a poster!:cool:

Your posts are my favorite always bat **** crazy in other words always perfect lol


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lol

It does take quite the courage and stamina to actually sit thru them entirely.

Okay confession time. Since Disney+ debuted I've been pulling a "JAWS" by going through the entire SW Saga as a lead in to TROS. I've been kind of bouncing around though since I started by sampling the OT to see what additional changes were made and to soak in the awesome color correction and 4K HDR. And I love that when you finish one movie D+ immediately suggests playing the next one in the series.

And believe it or not I though TFA plays very well immediately after ROTJ. I know people don't like the "Ducktroopers" but seeing them storming Jakku immediately after the dopey Endor Troopers really made them out to be quite the badasses. I didn't watch too much of TFA though because I decided to pause and revisit the PT.

Man....

TPM is still dopey fun but AOTC and ROTS are just excruciating to sit through. About halfway through AOTC I was even starting to just get soured on SW period. I can't believe the power that movie has to just suck all the joy out of liking the Saga. I started rethinking my whole life, lol. ROTS was marginally better but at least the shadowy cinematography allowed the cool HDR to pop. But ROTS's end to end low res computer backgrounds are just so bad and don't sync up with the aesthetic of the OT or ST at all.

I do admit to getting sucked into ROTS once Anakin went to Mustafar and the narrative shifted to Obi-Wan's point of view. From that point on the movie was pretty enjoyable (pity it ends with the one/two punch of losing the will to live and "Noooo.") But Obi-Wan carrying the third act of a crappy film does bode well for his D+ series.

Then after ROTS I immediately watched Solo and was surprised at how well it played right after the PT. If you were to watch them in chronological order for the first time holy crap does the quality skyrocket once Solo begins. The instant chemistry he has with Q'ira is off the charts after 14 hours of Anakin/Padme, lol. And him sneaking into the shadows with her on Corellia does kind of echo Anakin and Padme sneaking into the shadows when she announces her pregnancy. And then you've got Han jumping into the stolen speeder which echoes Anakin in the yellow AOTC speeder. Han really kind of plays like a replacement Anakin if you hadn't seen the OT and didn't know better.

Forturnately the soul sucking drain of AOTC/ROTS was immediately undone as I settled into Solo so I'm glad that good SW still trumps all as we're seeing right now with Mando.
 
Okay confession time. Since Disney+ debuted I've been pulling a "JAWS" by going through the entire SW Saga as a lead in to TROS. I've been kind of bouncing around though since I started by sampling the OT to see what additional changes were made and to soak in the awesome color correction and 4K HDR. And I love that when you finish one movie D+ immediately suggests playing the next one in the series.

And believe it or not I though TFA plays very well immediately after ROTJ. I know people don't like the "Ducktroopers" but seeing them storming Jakku immediately after the dopey Endor Troopers really made them out to be quite the badasses. I didn't watch too much of TFA though because I decided to pause and revisit the PT.

Man....

TPM is still dopey fun but AOTC and ROTS are just excruciating to sit through. About halfway through AOTC I was even starting to just get soured on SW period. I can't believe the power that movie has to just suck all the joy out of liking the Saga. I started rethinking my whole life, lol. ROTS was marginally better but at least the shadowy cinematography allowed the cool HDR to pop. But ROTS's end to end low res computer backgrounds are just so bad and don't sync up with the aesthetic of the OT or ST at all.

I do admit to getting sucked into ROTS once Anakin went to Mustafar and the narrative shifted to Obi-Wan's point of view. From that point on the movie was pretty enjoyable (pity it ends with the one/two punch of losing the will to live and "Noooo.") But Obi-Wan carrying the third act of a crappy film does bode well for his D+ series.

Then after ROTS I immediately watched Solo and was surprised at how well it played right after the PT. If you were to watch them in chronological order for the first time holy crap does the quality skyrocket once Solo begins. The instant chemistry he has with Q'ira is off the charts after 14 hours of Anakin/Padme, lol. And him sneaking into the shadows with her on Corellia does kind of echo Anakin and Padme sneaking into the shadows when she announces her pregnancy. And then you've got Han jumping into the stolen speeder which echoes Anakin in the yellow AOTC speeder. Han really kind of plays like a replacement Anakin if you hadn't seen the OT and didn't know better.

Forturnately the soul sucking drain of AOTC/ROTS was immediately undone as I settled into Solo so I'm glad that good SW still trumps all as we're seeing right now with Mando.

I try not to hold the cgi against the PT but holy crap Mace running in Geonosis is freaking abysmal lol

I just can?t...can?t...can?t watch Yoda flipping around I just can?t sorry.

The actual Clone Wars component of the PT is just handled so freaking bad which just breaks my heart.

ROTS opening space battle is super lame as well and I love those republic fighters.





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I try not to hold the cgi against the PT but holy crap Mace running in Geonosis is freaking abysmal lol

I just can?t...can?t...can?t watch Yoda flipping around I just can?t sorry.

The actual Clone Wars component of the PT is just handled so freaking bad which just breaks my heart.

ROTS opening space battle is super lame as well and I love those republic fighters.

Yeah there are a lot of great designs that were just so under-utilized. I hope that Mando (or another D+ show) can work in practical suits of Phase I Clonetroopers since I still like the look of those guys to this day.
 
No... but that 85'' Sony looks pretty good to me for Black Friday.

I really want 95 now though.

lulz

Yeah there are a lot of great designs that were just so under-utilized. I hope that Mando (or another D+ show) can work in practical suits of Phase I Clonetroopers since I still like the look of those guys to this day.

Yeah their designs are great but I can?t accept them with who their clone is.


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Yeah there are a lot of great designs that were just so under-utilized. I hope that Mando (or another D+ show) can work in practical suits of Phase I Clonetroopers since I still like the look of those guys to this day.

I was happy with the design of those guys, I did not need a further redesign to transition into the Stormtroopers of the Empire, I got it. The AOTC clones would become Stormtroopers.
 
Yeah their designs are great but I can?t accept them with who their clone is.

AOTC Jango/Boba were fakes, lol. Jango took his helmet off every second, even young Boba should have had a helmet as we're now learning from Mando. ESB Fett flew Slave I with his helmet on because he was the real deal. The way I see it the real Boba Fett was about 25 years old during the PT and "Jango" worshiped him so he took on the Fett name and then named his kid after his idol. Sadly young Daniel Logan went down to the arena, picked up his dad's helmet and then was promptly shot in the head by a random Battle Droid that assumed he was with the Jedi.

:)
 
No... but that 85'' Sony looks pretty good to me for Black Friday.

I really want 95 now though.

Srsly tho research first 'coz a lot of the BF sales are just to dump stock vs. incoming newer models.

Tho we picked up a couple of smaller Samsungs a while back on a BF deal - depends on what u need.
 
the real Boba Fett was about 25 years old during the PT and "Jango" worshiped him so he took on the Fett name and then named his kid after his idol. Sadly young Daniel Logan went down to the arena, picked up his dad's helmet and then was promptly shot in the head by a random Battle Droid that assumed he was with the Jedi.

:)

I like it. Good canon. Imposter killed.

Its like the way Jye feels about Joker.
 
Srsly tho research first 'coz a lot of the BF sales are just to dump stock vs. incoming newer models.

Well of course. That cycle is constant. Next year the 105'' will be the price of a 85'' today. But I'm still on 55''... and it no longer satisfies. :horror

I need at least 85'' to feel full. I think I could handle 95'' also. Anything more right now is just too much. :D


Can anyone recommend a great 85'' tv?
 
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