Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[aa909]

I think there is a reason why Disney decided to announce that all Star Wars movies were going to be put on indefinite hold before Rise of Skywalker even came out... I think they see the handwriting on the wall and need to regroup and come up with a new strategy for their Star Wars franchise... IF Rise of Skywalker bombs I'm pretty sure Kennedy will be gone...

then I pray it bombs. Let them clean house, regroup and come back in 2-3 years with something worth watching. akin to the Schmacher Batman movies before Nolan rebooted the franchise.

 

[Sassafras]

Well of course. That cycle is constant. Next year the 105'' will be the price of a 85'' today. But I'm still on 55''... and it no longer satisfies.

I need at least 85'' to feel full. I think I could handle 95'' also. Anything more right now is just too much.


Can anyone recommend a great 85'' tv?

*Madness* coz u need furniture or load bearing wall to go with....

https://www.techradar.com/news/best-tv-us

IMO when in doubt, Samsung. Used to be Sony but happy w. all my Samsung stuff.

then I pray it bombs. Let them clean house, regroup and come back in 2-3 years with something worth watching. akin to the Schmacher Batman movies before Nolan rebooted the franchise.

Yeah, but if it bombs, it could be a lot longer than 2-3 years. Like they could take attitude to wait for next generation, like 10 years. Meanwhile pour money into streaming instead.

 

[Prime Clone]

Yeah their designs are great but I can?t accept them with who their clone is.

I resemble that!

I need at least 85'' to feel full. I think I could handle 95'' also. Anything more right now is just too much.

 

[TaliBane]

?The idea was to continue the story and to begin with this young woman who felt like Luke Skywalker was a myth,? Abrams sad. ?And to tell a story that was not just history repeating itself, but a story that embraced the movies that we know as the actual history of this galaxy. So that they are still living in a place where there is good versus evil, they?re still living in the shadow of what has come before, still grappling with the sins of the father and the people who have preceded them. This was not about a nostalgia play. It felt, to me, like a way of saying, ?Let?s go back to a Star Wars that we know, so we can tell another story.'


That's a whole lotta nothing he just said. Smarmy hack weasel words.

And the guy in the video said it best: stuff that only happened 30 years ago is a "myth"?

Han should have said "It's true, all of it...... wait wtf, it was only 30 years ago... hell, I was in my 40s when we blew up DSII."

They push in on Han and have the music rise, but the whole idea of people not believing Luke even existed is so absurd. I mean the Empire didn't triumph, it was defeated, so you'd think everyone would be talking freely about Luke and the rebels and what they did - in schools, on the street. The last thing you'd expect is everyone suddenly forgetting he even existed.

This is the core stupidity of so much of this ST stuff, even spackled over with rising John Williams music, incredible effects and massive BO as it always is - it's so laughably nonsensical.

I don’t think episode IX will bomb, but it definitely will not make as much as TFA.

People who think TROS could bomb just don't understand the way branded IP content works these days. There a greater chance that an asteroid will hit earth between now and Christmas than TROS "bombing." TFA numbers? Not a chance, but it will do TLJ numbers.

 

[jye4ever]

Asteroids do not concern me TaliBane.

I want that opening weekend slip not excuses.


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[The Buffinator]

And the guy in the video said it best: stuff that only happened 30 years ago is a "myth"?

Han should have said "It's true, all of it...... wait wtf, it was only 30 years ago... hell, I was in my 40s when we blew up DSII."

They push in on Han and have the music rise, but the whole idea of people not believing Luke even existed is so absurd. I mean the Empire didn't triumph, it was defeated, so you'd think everyone would be talking freely about Luke and the rebels and what they did - in schools, on the street. The last thing you'd expect is everyone suddenly forgetting he even existed.

IDK, it's not like they were all using the same internet and/or watching the same nightly news, nor were Luke's exploits televised across the galaxy. Heck, it didn't seem like all that many people within the rebel fleet in ROTJ actually knew Luke was a Jedi (let alone what that meant), so stories of his specific exploits vis-a-vis the 2nd Death Star, Vader and the Emperor could have been somewhat spotty at best. Assuming Luke even shared them. Seems pretty believable that 30 years later an orphan on a distant, desolate planet might consider him mythic, especially if another oppressive regime rose up in her lifetime.

 

[ZE_501]

IDK, it's not like they were all using the same internet and/or watching the same nightly news, nor were Luke's exploits televised across the galaxy. Heck, it didn't seem like all that many people within the rebel fleet in ROTJ actually knew Luke was a Jedi (let alone what that meant), so stories of his specific exploits vis-a-vis the 2nd Death Star, Vader and the Emperor could have been somewhat spotty at best. Assuming Luke even shared them. Seems pretty believable that 30 years later an orphan on a distant, desolate planet might consider him mythic, especially if another oppressive regime rose up in her lifetime.

They relied on that ?mythic? aspect pretty heavily, but I?ll give them this:

Vast galaxy, alien cultures, fog-of-war...sure there was a revolution that toppled the oppressive regime, but how many people actually knew who key players were? Even in the Alliance military? Add to that many who knew would have been killed in action.

Anybody know the names of the dudes in SEAL Team 6 that took out Bin Laden?

The marines who captured Saddam Hussein?

And how many people believe whatever governments and militaries tell them?

So that?s kind of the least of my problems.

Even in the Empire, your average stormtrooper probably never even *saw* Vader.


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[jye4ever]

They relied on that ?mythic? aspect pretty heavily, but I?ll give them this:

Vast galaxy, alien cultures, fog-of-war...sure there was a revolution that toppled the oppressive regime, but how many people actually knew who key players were? Even in the Alliance military? Add to that many who knew would have been killed in action.

Anybody know the names of the dudes in SEAL Team 6 that took out Bin Laden?

The marines who captured Saddam Hussein?

And how many people believe whatever governments and militaries tell them?

So that?s kind of the least of my problems.

Even in the Empire, your average stormtrooper probably never even *saw* Vader.


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And that?s just on planet earth lol


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[ZE_501]

And that?s just on planet earth lol


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Yep.

Buddy of mine is a US Marine, did 2 tours in Iraq, saw some house to house fighting, he knew some guys attached to his group who found Saddam.

Another buddy of mine: Canadian Military, close protection. He was deployed in Afghanistan during a couple of newsworthy events that he never got close to, knew some guys there. Another of his buddies I met at his wedding described a couple of routine patrols to me.

My own late father (who was much older than me and my mother ? 2nd marriage bla bla bla) was actually in WW2 ? engineer, career army thereafter, stationed in the Middle East and Italy. He told me next to nothing about his experiences.

That?s all I know directly beyond what the news tells me, in an age of internet, phone cameras and 24/7 news cycles. The rest is rumours, documentary and hearsay.

The conflict between the Alliance and the Empire spanned light years in an information-suppressed totalitarian environment.



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[TaliBane]

Yeah, I recently discovered Winston Churchill, and Generals MacArthur and Patton and Rommel and Montgomery and de Gaulle actually existed. It was apparently some kind of battle against this guy named Hitler (I think I got that name right?) and involving some guy named Stalin. I always thought the rise of that evil Empire, and the people who defeated it, were myths.

Fog of War? More like Fog of Idiocy.

Anybody who doesn't know the names Vader and Skywalker as real figures - and been fully aware of them just 30 years after the galaxy-wide war ended (with the restoration of freedom no less) - is an in-universe moron.

 

[ZE_501]

Yeah, I recently discovered Winston Churchill, and Generals MacArthur and Patton and Rommel and Montgomery actually existed. It was apparently some kind of battle against this guy named Hitler (I think I got that name right?) and involving some guy named Stalin. I always thought the rise of that evil Empire, and the people who defeated it, were myths.

Fog of war? More like fog of idiocy.

Anybody who didn't know the names Vader and Skywalker as real people - and been fully aware of them just 30 years after the galaxy-wide war ended - is an in-universe moron.

Nah, I think this is one of those times I have to respectfully disagree.

I imagine people had heard of Vader and there were rumours about him being scary and some kind of war veteran; and I imagine people knew there was a crack pilot named Luke Skywalker who fired the kill shot that took down the weapon that destroyed Alderaan.

What I don?t buy is that everyone knew what they did and that they were space wizards proficient with esoteric melee weapons.

What I find harder to believe is that the Jedi Order itself was so quickly forgotten; but given that context I?m not expecting the general galactic population to know details about Commander Skywalker and Lord Vader.




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[jye4ever]

Yeah, I recently discovered Winston Churchill, and Generals MacArthur and Patton and Rommel and Montgomery and de Gaulle actually existed. It was apparently some kind of battle against this guy named Hitler (I think I got that name right?) and involving some guy named Stalin. I always thought the rise of that evil Empire, and the people who defeated it, were myths.

Fog of War? More like Fog of Idiocy.

Anybody who doesn't know the names Vader and Skywalker as real figures - and been fully aware of them just 30 years after the galaxy-wide war ended - is an in-universe moron.

I can find you adults right now that have no clue who those people you mentioned are or the events they participated in.




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[YoNoSe]

WTF did the New Republic even do? All we’ve seen in this trilogy are people living in poverty/servitude and a casino. No wonder nobody answered Leia’s distress signal.
We’re part of an Empire, clean up that bantha crap.
Some bombs went off. Republic. Clean the crap.

Hey, supposedly that Luke Skywalker guy showed up and they couldn’t kill him with lasers.
But coincidentally he died of natural causes moments later. Anyway, that crap ain’t gonna shovel itself.

 

[jye4ever]

WTF did the New Republic even do? All we?ve seen in this trilogy are people living in poverty/servitude and a casino. No wonder nobody answered Leia?s distress signal.
We?re part of an Empire, clean up that bantha crap.
Some bombs went off. Republic. Clean the crap.

Hey, supposedly that Luke Skywalker guy showed up and they couldn?t kill him with lasers.
But coincidentally he died of natural causes moments later. Anyway, that crap ain?t gonna shovel itself.

Did you not read the opening crawl that explained 32 years worth of events lol


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[jye4ever]

https://youtu.be/1qphC39PJf4

If nothing else the movie looks to be the most gorgeously cinematic of the 3.




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[YoNoSe]

Luke: Confronting fear is the destiny of all Jedi.

Rey: Yeah but you ****ed off to Porg Island to die.

 

[dan350zr]

Special Effects look awesome but I still have serious doubts about the story itself...

 

[SilverStar17]

Cut them some slack...they had no source material in which to use as a crutch.

 

[jye4ever]

Who pays 4 billion for something and not use the included product lol


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[ZE_501]

Who pays 4 billion for something and not use the included product lol


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They didn?t read the instructions. [emoji1787]


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