Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[Khev]

Who pays 4 billion for something and not use the included product lol

Imagine if we had gotten to see KK's MCU:

2008: Captain Marvel 1 (Tony Stark dies)

2010: Captain Marvel 2 (Steve Rogers dies)

2011: Bob Iger announces that they're releasing too many films and will put the franchise on hiatus for three years.

lol

 

[jye4ever]

Imagine if we had gotten to see KK's MCU:

2008: Captain Marvel 1 (Tony Stark dies)

2010: Captain Marvel 2 (Steve Rogers dies)

2011: Bob Iger announces that they're releasing too many films and will put the franchise on hiatus for three years.

lol

KK announces that part 3 will have Dark Phoenix reborn to take on Professor Hulk and his blandly dressed Avengers.


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[The Buffinator]

KK announces that part 3 will have Dark Phoenix reborn to take on Professor Hulk and his blandly dressed Avengers.


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And in the final battle, right as Hulk is about to take out Dark Phoenix he's blindsided by Betty Ross (played by Melissa McCarthy) in a semi truck...

 

[jye4ever]

semi truck lol


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[Khev]

 

[JAWS]

A month away and I still have zero excitment.

 

[YoNoSe]

I’m playing Fallen Order and a character said they shut themself off from the Force. It bummed me out hearing a TLJism. It’s really real, isn’t it? We’re really going with this.

 

[Cocoboloboy]

2.5 hour TROS movie anticipation excitement:




37 minute Episode 4 of The Mandalorian anticipation excitement:

 

[greedo737]

A month away and I still have zero excitment.

Agreed. They won?t get any of my money.

 

[greedo737]

I?m playing Fallen Order and a character said they shut themself off from the Force. It bummed me out hearing a TLJism. It?s really real, isn?t it? We?re really going with this.

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[greedo737]

2.5 hour TROS movie anticipation excitement:

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37 minute Episode 4 of The Mandalorian anticipation excitement:

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[TaliBane]

Nah, I think this is one of those times I have to respectfully disagree.

I imagine people had heard of Vader and there were rumours about him being scary and some kind of war veteran; and I imagine people knew there was a crack pilot named Luke Skywalker who fired the kill shot that took down the weapon that destroyed Alderaan.

What I don?t buy is that everyone knew what they did and that they were space wizards proficient with esoteric melee weapons.

What I find harder to believe is that the Jedi Order itself was so quickly forgotten; but given that context I?m not expecting the general galactic population to know details about Commander Skywalker and Lord Vader.


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So these galactic hicks didn't notice all the brutal stormtroopers suddenly occupying their hundreds/thousands of dusty home planets (like even backwater Tatooine) and weren't curious about the people who got somehow rid of those stormtroopers? I mean the sense you get is that maybe thousands of worlds/systems fell under the grip of the Empire. Right?

This isn't a situation of "hey I live in rural Kansas and wasn't aware a world war was going on" - that celebration Lucas added at the end of the ROTJ special edition (yes, horrible I know) certainly seems to suggest that a whole hell of a lot of people were aware of what happened and were mighty happy about it.

With talk of Iraq, you seem to be missing the scale/scope of what happened in the OT. Or did you always view it as this sort of skirmish involving a few dozen worlds, ignored or not known by the vast majority of the galaxy's occupants?

I can find you adults right now that have no clue who those people you mentioned are or the events they participated in.

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I can find you adults right now that have no clue who the current president is. And that's quite a feat, right?

And those names I listed were in action 75 years ago. The time gap we're talking about here - 30 years ago - would mean the equivalent of a total war all across the globe claiming millions of lives taking place in 1990. That few have heard of to a point where they think it's... a myth??

WTF did the New Republic even do? All we?ve seen in this trilogy are people living in poverty/servitude and a casino. No wonder nobody answered Leia?s distress signal.
We?re part of an Empire, clean up that bantha crap.
Some bombs went off. Republic. Clean the crap.

Hey, supposedly that Luke Skywalker guy showed up and they couldn?t kill him with lasers.
But coincidentally he died of natural causes moments later. Anyway, that crap ain?t gonna shovel itself.

This is part of the point I'm making - the Empire was defeated and freedom restored to the galaxy. The yoke of terror and oppression was lifted after a long war, but... ummm... 90% of the galactic population weren't even aware the war was going on (WTF was the point of the rebellion then???,) had barely heard of Vader or the Empire, and in hindsight, weren't even sure the war was even real.

And presumably the new galactic leaders, savoring that new freedom, did nothing to express gratitude to the brave people who had achieved so much and ensured they were promptly forgotten. To a point where a person born only TEN YEARS after the DSII explosion - Rey - believes it was all a myth? "All of it..."

I can't believe people are defending this idiocy. It renders pretty much pointless (or at least a storm in a teacup) the whole story of the OT, right?

 

[Ropen]

You know, as former infantry who has been blown up, been shot at, survived a two story fall from a building after a grenade was thrown on the roof and got lucky it didn?t go off, has been knocked unconscious for 7 minutes after a humvee flipped after a bomb went off and they made my first deployment into a mini series for nat geo.

It?s true, all of it, being at the very bottom and boots on ground, sometimes you really have no idea what the organization wants, I mean Vader is complete middle level management and the emperor a complete myth, chain of command, etc, once you realize how the military works, the empire makes sense, a simple storm trooper would not never ever heard or seen Vader unless they kept pictures of him on the wall by their office they wouldn?t. Heck despite the atrocities that happened in world war 1-2, Korean War, Vietnam, the people do really forget what happened, they are still holocaust deniers.

The storm troopers are the enlisted of course doing their dirty work, their captains are more like their platoon leaders, then you have the imperial officers which of course are the ones giving the real orders to the boots on ground and vader is like a sergeant major while tarkin was the general and the emperor the president, his absence in films like rogue one makes sense, the emperor tells Vader what to do and Vader enforces it by talking to the imperial officers to get it done, I.e admiral piett and his threats of doubling the efforts of the second Death Star. As a military guy believe it or not I would fear tarkin or the emperor more than Vader himself tbh.


Quite frankly, i can honestly say that yes, this is a situation of ?Hey, I live in rural Kansas and wasn?t aware a world war was going on? because the last time a real world war happened was back in the 1940?s where countries invaded each other, cities destroyed leveled to the ground heavy artillery going off and randomly leveling city blocks and nuclear bombs going off in the world.

The war on terror is in The Middle East for obvious reason, travel over there and see how bad they have it, sad to say mass shootings in schools pale in comparison to the conflict between terrorists blowing themselves up in public spaces or being worried about the car next to you in the highway being a bomb.

It?s the same logic, we can say that here we don?t really have to worry about it, you guys are Rey, and I?m Han Solo telling you, it?s true, all of it.



I can also tell you that despite the empire being evil, the Jedi and the resistance use more of guerilla tactics and methods of overthrowing their government than anything, so in all reality no one really wins.

I mean it?s the way the world works, foreign invasion in this day an age would be taken lightly because if it happened in New York and I?m Texas, I wouldn?t really care because it really would be business as usual unless they come from the border then I?m screwed. The empire covered a whole freaking galaxy, therefore it would be hard to think a regular Joe Schmoe would think a distress signal is that serious and would blow it off unless he received a huge influx of them I guess


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[DiFabio]

Jesus.

 

[jye4ever]

 

[ZE_501]

Jesus.

LOLOLOL

 

[ZE_501]

So these galactic hicks didn't notice all the brutal stormtroopers suddenly occupying their hundreds/thousands of dusty home planets (like even backwater Tatooine) and weren't curious about the people who got somehow rid of those stormtroopers? I mean the sense you get is that maybe thousands of worlds/systems fell under the grip of the Empire. Right?

I think we're arguing 2 different points here.

Of course the Empire occupied a multitude of worlds to varying degrees. I imagine they projected force via their highly mobile fleet so the level of occupation no doubt varied based on proximity to the core and importance of said world (resources, strategic etc.).

Everyone was well aware of the Empire, and well aware of a rebellion. Out on Tatooine Luke's dialogue indicates that backwater hicks knew about it but didn't have a lot of information.

Average citizens (and enlisted troops) knew there was an emperor, and they *may* have heard of Vader during the Empire's reign via propaganda, although I'm really not sure he was a good candidate for that unless they wanted to paint him as a war hero.

If we're going by the films I didn't see any Vader holos up at the recruiting station on Corellia (Solo).

I don't think the Alliance would have used Luke's name and face for propaganda during the conflict as it would have made it hard for him to move around in a galaxy full of bounty hunters and imperial spies.

In the New Republic era? Maybe...if Luke even permitted it (monk-like ascetic Jedi and all) .. and I'm not sure they would have said "Hey everyone, we won the war in a climactic naval battle but *this guy* kicked Vader's *** and then got him to turn on the Emperor and throw him down a reactor shaft and he's TOTALLY A JEDI."

Or maybe they would have. It's a fictional universe so for the sake of this argument, technically neither of us is "wrong" unless canonical source material directly contradicts us.

 

[Wor-Gar]

You know, as former infantry who has been blown up, been shot at, survived a two story fall from a building after a grenade was thrown on the roof and got lucky it didn?t go off, has been knocked unconscious for 7 minutes after a humvee flipped after a bomb went off and they made my first deployment into a mini series for nat geo.

It?s true, all of it, being at the very bottom and boots on ground, sometimes you really have no idea what the organization wants, I mean Vader is complete middle level management and the emperor a complete myth, chain of command, etc, once you realize how the military works, the empire makes sense, a simple storm trooper would not never ever heard or seen Vader unless they kept pictures of him on the wall by their office they wouldn?t. Heck despite the atrocities that happened in world war 1-2, Korean War, Vietnam, the people do really forget what happened, they are still holocaust deniers.

Wait -- I'm confused. Are you comparing your real-world experiences to Darth Vader?

 

[Khev]

I'm fine with Rey having heard of Luke but not believing the stories. Who knows what BS Unkar Plutt might have filled her head with to keep her from hitching a ride off-world in search of adventure.

Luke had never even heard of the Force so apparently those Outer Rim desert denizens can live pretty sheltered lives.

 

[jye4ever]

I'm fine with Rey having heard of Luke but not believing the stories. Who knows what BS Unkar Plutt might have filled her head with to keep her from hitching a ride off-world in search of adventure.

Luke had never even heard of the Force so apparently those Outer Rim desert denizens can live pretty sheltered lives.

Since its a galaxy and not just a single planet I buy misinformation or lack of information.




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