Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[FlyAndFight]

The Disney ride looks spectacular.

The movie looks like Abrams & Co. are throwing in everything from all trilogies to make it the bestest, most wonderfulest movie evah!

 

[jye4ever]

Holy crap did everyone catch Kelly?s show of legs in the press conference like no joke she stole that show with those sexy power legs in a mini skirt and she made sure to show them off look at that side cut.

Hot Rose dafuq did RJ dress her up like that for what a fool.

Not for nothing but she ain?t nothing to kick out of the sack lol

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[j97e1]

Was hoping she's not in 'Rice of Soywalker'....

 

[TaliBane]

There is truth to this. Lets be honest. The parks are moving toward being a vehicle to push their modern properties.

I mean, Avatar? In Animal Kingdom? Thats weird. They should have went with the initial idea for animal kingdom which would have included fantasy animals.

I still love the parks, the technology and immersiveness is incredible.



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The wonders of the natural world, right?

There will be OT and PT elements added to Galaxies Edge over time. Right now they wanted to focus on the current movies - this is not an unusual process as LFL always did the same thing to us (Sideshow), we would present our list of figures we wanted to make, and they would pick out and approve what they wanted to be focused on at the time. Fans may not like that kind of process but it's normal operating procedures.

All that said Galaxies Edge is awesome, regardless of which generation of SW it is. Truly immersive and so much fun - I have season passes to Disneyland (Anaheim) and go all the time. Like every other part of the park, how packed it is varies on day and time. If it's underperforming it sure is hard to tell as you would then have to say the entire park is underperforming.

In comparison to theme parks, figure choices can turn on a dime though - 12-18 months later suddenly its a Hoth wave or a PT Jedi wave. Parks though... when you say "over time" you are talking about time segments of 5-7 years. That's how long this new ride has taken from development to opening - 5-6 years - and that process began with the excitement of a new SW trilogy coming.

And the reality is, if Galaxy's Edge underperforms (and the trajectory so far doesn't seem to be what you'd expect with a new and "final" $250m movie around the corner - shouldn't people be frenetically SW for the climactic end of Rey and Kylo?) it will be blamed on Star Wars in general, not the ST choices.

In that scenario, do you seriously think Disney will then start adding rides based on the OT or PT? It would require them to assign blame to their own self-produced product and embrace old content they had no hand in producing.

All I'm saying is I would have loved to have seen an immersion into the ANH cantina, or Jabba's throne room, or Hoth battle, or OT Death Star/stormies instead of a huge world that is "generic Star Wars" melded with ST-specific rides. Madame Tussauds was better balanced with OT/PT/ST.

What they don't seem to understand is that the ST's huge box office is more a product of the triumph and singular dominance of branded IP today (SW being one of the top five entertainment brands of all time) along with Disney's staggering capability in terms of marketing (and market share) than genuine obsessive/enduring love for Kylo Ren, Rey, the FO and the Resistance.

That enduring love is (supposed to be) what powers hunger for rides and experiences like Galaxy's Edge. I'd argue there isn't much for this ST world and characters.

 

[Sachiel]

 

[YoNoSe]

L3 called him Landonis in Solo.

 

[ironwez20]

Holy crap did everyone catch Kelly?s show of legs in the press conference like no joke she stole that show with those sexy power legs in a mini skirt and she made sure to show them off look at that side cut.

Hot Rose dafuq did RJ dress her up like that for what a fool.

Not for nothing but she ain?t nothing to kick out of the sack lol

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Will never get why people hated on her. While poorly written she wasn?t worse than jar jar. But she?s hated more than him

 

[YoNoSe]

Kelly Marie Tran is a good actress stuck in a bad role.
Rose Tico is the worst written character in Star Wars, in the worst Star Wars movie.

JarJar is at least consistently stupid in-universe - to a pivotal plot point in RotS.

Rose is a nonsensical wet blanket that the movie tells is is smart and insightful despite everything she says and does being insufferable and contradictory.

Rose is orders of magnitude worse than JarJar.

 

[xipotec]

**** dudes this will explain how maul, Palpatine and Windu survived I mean woooo [emoji2369]


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And possibly Luke.....

I know you guys will reach any depth for years to espouse your hate of the ST, but lets not get into it about Jar Jar.... if you were a kid during the PT you get a pass, but if not, then saying Jar Jar was anything but the biggest , most stupid mistake in any SW film is just too much.

The following lines is actual dialogue from Jar Jar. No matter how sappy Rose was, her lines cannot compare with this jibberish... no comparison.

Jar Jar quotes;

I don?t know. Mesa day startin pretty okee-day with a brisky morning munchy, then BOOM! Gettin very scared and grabbin that Jedi and POW! Mesa here! Mesa gettin? very very scared!

You'd say, "boom de gasa"... den crashded da boss's heyblibber... den banished.

Uh-oh! Biiiiig Goober fish!

Ooh mooey mooey I love you!

It?s a longo taleo buta small part of it would be mesa? clumsy



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[YoNoSe]

Every one of those lines is less ridiculous than Rose’s mantra after she has twice, through violence, prevented Finn from saving what he loves.

Rose is a master course in every way characterization can fail.

But JarJar has a silly accent.

 

[greedo737]

Every one of those lines is less ridiculous than Rose?s mantra after she has twice, through violence, prevented Finn from saving what he loves.

Rose is a master course in every way characterization can fail.

But JarJar has a silly accent.

What he said

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

In comparison to theme parks, figure choices can turn on a dime though - 12-18 months later suddenly its a Hoth wave or a PT Jedi wave. Parks though... when you say "over time" you are talking about time segments of 5-7 years. That's how long this new ride has taken from development to opening - 5-6 years - and that process began with the excitement of a new SW trilogy coming.

And the reality is, if Galaxy's Edge underperforms (and the trajectory so far doesn't seem to be what you'd expect with a new and "final" $250m movie around the corner - shouldn't people be frenetically SW for the climactic end of Rey and Kylo?) it will be blamed on Star Wars in general, not the ST choices.

In that scenario, do you seriously think Disney will then start adding rides based on the OT or PT? It would require them to assign blame to their own self-produced product and embrace old content they had no hand in producing.

All I'm saying is I would have loved to have seen an immersion into the ANH cantina, or Jabba's throne room, or Hoth battle, or OT Death Star/stormies instead of a huge world that is "generic Star Wars" melded with ST-specific rides. Madame Tussauds was better balanced with OT/PT/ST.

What they don't seem to understand is that the ST's huge box office is more a product of the triumph and singular dominance of branded IP today (SW being one of the top five entertainment brands of all time) along with Disney's staggering capability in terms of marketing (and market share) than genuine obsessive/enduring love for Kylo Ren, Rey, the FO and the Resistance.

That enduring love is (supposed to be) what powers hunger for rides and experiences like Galaxy's Edge. I'd argue there isn't much for this ST world and characters.

Fair enough, though I never said they would be adding rides, just OT elements - they've not expounded on that since they haven't announced it, it's just people that work there that have whispered that elements are being added. They have to play the long game with theme parks. So if it bombs then, yes I still see OT elements being added because they want to make money plain and simple. Does that mean rides? I doubt it - well in Anaheim anyways as there is no room - but they'll have no issues added things that sell, Disney loves money more than anything else, and if they don't acknowledge fan's questions about failures then it never happened - it wouldn't be the first time Disney did that.

So you know, in most cases from the time that we submit a list, items on said list get approved and the items are finally shipped out and you are looking at 2 to 3 years time (not 12 to 18 months.) So LFL was always looking into what they wanted to do years in advanced, and the same it happening here with the theme park. The reality is that Disney made these ST movies, and they are going to pimp them first. We can argue the merits of that, but I wasn't commenting on that to begin with, I was just stating what the normal procedures are when it comes to putting out items that said companies want to focus on.

Granted I will be very excited when OT stuff starts making it into Galaxies Edge - other than all the droid stuff, legacy lightsabers, jewelry, and...well a crap ton of merchandise really - but I'm actually enjoying being in a SW environment that is not directly out of any of the movies, I've seen all of that stuff before, I'm enjoying new experiences (kind of like enjoying the familiar hints of SW in the Mandalorian but getting new environments and characters.)

 

[SilverStar17]

Will never get why people hated on her. While poorly written she wasn?t worse than jar jar. But she?s hated more than him

Kelly Marie Tran is a good actress stuck in a bad role.
Rose Tico is the worst written character in Star Wars, in the worst Star Wars movie.

JarJar is at least consistently stupid in-universe - to a pivotal plot point in RotS.

Rose is a nonsensical wet blanket that the movie tells is is smart and insightful despite everything she says and does being insufferable and contradictory.

Rose is orders of magnitude worse than JarJar.

My sentiments also.

KMT as an actress portrayed the character well. Me thinking Rose is a useless character has nothing to do with her portrayal of the character.

Rose I didn’t think was an annoying character, just a needless character. While conversely, Jar-Jar I thought was an annoying character, but not a useless character.

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah but I don?t want to **** Jar Jar


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[YoNoSe]

Yeah but I don?t want to **** Jar Jar


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Is that an ethical stance or do you have a number?

 

[ironwez20]

Yeah but I don?t want to **** Jar Jar


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Yea u do u sicko

 

[Nailz]

 

[jye4ever]

Yea u do u sicko

Well he does have 17 D**** lol


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[TaliBane]

Fair enough, though I never said they would be adding rides, just OT elements - they've not expounded on that since they haven't announced it, it's just people that work there that have whispered that elements are being added. They have to play the long game with theme parks. So if it bombs then, yes I still see OT elements being added because they want to make money plain and simple. Does that mean rides? I doubt it - well in Anaheim anyways as there is no room - but they'll have no issues added things that sell, Disney loves money more than anything else, and if they don't acknowledge fan's questions about failures then it never happened - it wouldn't be the first time Disney did that.

So you know, in most cases from the time that we submit a list, items on said list get approved and the items are finally shipped out and you are looking at 2 to 3 years time (not 12 to 18 months.) So LFL was always looking into what they wanted to do years in advanced, and the same it happening here with the theme park. The reality is that Disney made these ST movies, and they are going to pimp them first. We can argue the merits of that, but I wasn't commenting on that to begin with, I was just stating what the normal procedures are when it comes to putting out items that said companies want to focus on.

Granted I will be very excited when OT stuff starts making it into Galaxies Edge - other than all the droid stuff, legacy lightsabers, jewelry, and...well a crap ton of merchandise really - but I'm actually enjoying being in a SW environment that is not directly out of any of the movies, I've seen all of that stuff before, I'm enjoying new experiences (kind of like enjoying the familiar hints of SW in the Mandalorian but getting new environments and characters.)

Yeah, see I think for me the appeal is you saw it in the movie and now you're literally standing in it. A SW land that is "generic" - ie sort of SW inspired but not really a recreation of any particular location - is pretty much a waste of time.

I'm no Harry Potter fan but my kids were just blown away literally standing in Daigon Alley in HP World, and also the accurate recreation of riding in the Hogwarts Express. That to me is the transporting magic of a fan being able to stand in the "real" classic Mos Eisley Cantina, accurately recreated in 3 dimensions vs a generic bar with "SW-inspired" creatures.

And as a former SSC employee, do you know one way or the other if Sideshow has now not renewed/lost the SW 1/6 license? With each passing month of no SW 1/6 activity that does seem to be further confirmed (you realize companies make announcements about landing a license, but not about losing one - it's just silence.) It would be a pity if that Lando Skiff 1/6 proto they showed a year or so ago never made it to production.

 

[TaliBane]

My sentiments also.

KMT as an actress portrayed the character well. Me thinking Rose is a useless character has nothing to do with her portrayal of the character.

Rose I didn?t think was an annoying character, just a needless character. While conversely, Jar-Jar I thought was an annoying character, but not a useless character.

Yeah, JJ was clearly a silly little-kids creation that was meant to be comic relief. It was stunningly grating, poorly executed in every way and even offensive to some, but there was no doubt what the creation was intended to be.

The Rose character we were clearly supposed to instantly fall in love with as a heroic, fully fleshed out new SW icon, despite cloying dialog, inane attitudes and stupid actions.

To me she also personified the ST's meta attachment to the adoring fan - pretty much every new character in the ST has this fanboy aspect of being in awe of something of the SW world (with this wide-eyed golly-gosh thing - staring in awe at OT helmets or gushing about some past OT attribute.) The fanboy way Rose introduces herself to Finn was just so incredibly dumb and it went downhill from there.

Pretty much any actress in that role in that movie would have ended up with the same reaction.

Nearly a third of that is unintelligible, especially toward the end - maybe appropriate for the movies it covers.