Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

And also, why didn't Disney/Kennedy just give Johnson the reigns to continue his story into EP9 after letting Trevorrow go? If they loved his ideas for EP8 so much? It really doesn't make sense to bring JJ back, especially since Johnson clearly derailed most story development JJ had in play. So now JJ has to make up a story to continue on after Johnson decimated all his ideas... Only remote interest I have in EP9 is seeing how JJ re implements his story plots/ideas back into EP9 after Johnson went so far off tangent. Although then it will look like damage control as well...

The only reason I can think of is the time frame. Johnson wouldn't have had time to work on EP9 while finishing EP8, since there are only 2 years between the releases, and no way Disney would push it off. Or to save face under the pretense EP8 was successful. Announce giving him his own future trilogy to back their choice and his competence, till one day they announce Johnson has decided to move on and it is cancelled or some ****.

Sad that there are now parallels between the failing WB/DC DCEU movies and Disney's Star Wars... Whedon trying fix JL, Howard to fix Solo, not admitting they didn't believe in Snyder/Johnson's visions of BvS/TLJ... Just so many.

What a **** storm SW has become under Kennedy/Disney...

Lucas his laughing so hard....... this was his plan along. He gave the the fans/Lucas haters what they wanted after all. :lol

A Lucas free Star Wars. :(
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

We all know Johnson and Disney has been doing extensive damage control for the TLJ, and pathetically at that, since shortly after its release and all the backlash started. But has Kennedy herself even made a peep?? She did maybe, what 1 or 2 interview panels with other people, but has she come out on her own and made any official statements??

I think Disney has quietly chained her in a dungeon somewhere. Bob Iger is making her pay for her war crimes against the fans and Disney's bottom line.

Well they only really have two official options open to them.

(1) Do a DC/WB, throw Snyder (Rian) under the bus and say that BvS (TLJ) was an experiment / misstep which ultimately didn't work for enough of their fanbase (failing to generate the ticket revenue and toy sales that they were hoping for); or

(2) Kathleen can bury her head in the sand, not comment and hope that this blows over. In two years time it's likely that people will have mellowed and will come back for 9 regardless because Star Wars.

To release statements like Rian has been doing just fans the flames and helps in neither respect. To admit to a mistake didn't work so well for DC/WB.

So they appear to be going with the official line that there is no problem (Kennedy is not making any potentially polarising statements and LFL/Disney are having articles published to cast dispersions on the 'haters' and create excuses unrelated to their poor story telling to explain ticket revenue and toy sales) and more subtlety they are course correcting by hiring JJ to finish off the trilogy.

That's my take on it
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Hasbro CEO Brian Goldner making excuses for TLJ merchandise’ low sales:



As if they haven’t been doing this every single year and don’t know how it works by now. As if ‘other toys hitting around the same time’ ever stopped something that people really wanted. I’m sure they must have sold more before people saw the movie and didn’t want the toys anymore in fact.

They’re in full damage control mode on every aspect of this, from the film itself to the toys.

Wish Disney store will deep discount those great diecast figures to $10 each...they are awesome but not $26 awesome. Got alot of TFA and RO s for $7 each
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

So they appear to be going with the official line that there is no problem (Kennedy is not making any potentially polarising statements and LFL/Disney are having articles published to cast dispersions on the 'haters' and create excuses unrelated to their poor story telling to explain ticket revenue and toy sales) and more subtlety they are course correcting by hiring JJ to finish off the trilogy.

That's my take on it

You’re exactly right on that last part unfortunately, here’s more from the interview tour where they say the same would have happened to ESB:

Johnson: "Empire" would have gotten roasted. If you look at the criticism of "Last Jedi," can you imagine what they would have said about Luke just getting his ass handed to him by Vader? Oh my God.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Whether it worked or not, I do applaud LFL/Johnson for taking a risk with TLJ. Last thing I expected, especially after TFA and RO.

My theory is that Johnson's concept offered them a way forward (Canto Bight Kids or whatever) that was worth the initial pain/backlash.




Nice chatting with you again bud. I like it when PT boys like you and Prime Clone chime in. :duff


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And all the bad guys died from forceboy's broom of entitlement. ..he christened it Mickey...even gets to defeat Thors Hammer with it when the crossover happens...ah I can see it now...similar to the Magical coin of centrifuge from looper
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Whether it worked or not, I do applaud LFL/Johnson for taking a risk with TLJ. Last thing I expected, especially after TFA and RO.

My theory is that Johnson's concept offered them a way forward (Canto Bight Kids or whatever) that was worth the initial pain/backlash.

I’d also be glad for a risk (TFA was way too safe) as long as it followed the logic of the universe established before.

Further, there always were force sensitive kids being born, that never stopped. They could have gone in that direction at any point, no?

Only difference was they couldn’t use their powers without training before.
 
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I’d also be glad for a risk (TFA was way too safe) as long as it followed the logic of the universe established before.

Further, there always were force sensitive kids being born, that never stopped. They could have gone in that direction at any point, no?

Only difference was they couldn’t use their powers without training before.

True, there are a lot of "revolutionary" concepts in TLJ that ain't so revolutionary. And my biggest beef is that these setups should have come at the end of the trilogy, not in the middle.
 
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True, there are a lot of "revolutionary" concepts in TLJ that ain't so revolutionary. And my biggest beef is that these setups should have come at the end of the trilogy, not in the middle.

That's the problem. Johnson tried to cram 2 movies into 1 so he could get all his wonderful ideas on screen.. He didn't want the next guy screwing up his revolutionary ideas like he ****ed with JJ's ideas and vision.

One of the many reasons why this movie is a mess. Too much going on in too short a time frame.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I’d also be glad for a risk (TFA was way too safe) as long as it followed the logic of the universe established before.

Further, there always were force sensitive kids being born, that never stopped. They could have gone in that direction at any point, no?

Only difference was they couldn’t use their powers without training before.

Every child has a right to a force education using the air they breathe according to Antifa dictionary
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I’d also be glad for a risk (TFA was way too safe) as long as it followed the logic of the universe established before.

Further, there always were force sensitive kids being born, that never stopped. They could have gone in that direction at any point, no?

Only difference was they couldn’t use their powers without training before.

Where's the fun in that.. Training, preparation, bah, that's for pussies...

Aren't all the Mutants & Inhumans in the Marvel universe born with mastery over their powers? So why not in Star Wars too? :cuckoo:

No need for character development, nor for a hero's journey... That's old school thinking.. It's simple today. "I'm here, therefore I am"...
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Where's the fun in that.. Training, preparation, bah, that's for pussies...

Aren't all the Mutants & Inhumans in the Marvel universe born with mastery over their powers? So why not in Star Wars too? :cuckoo:

No need for character development, nor for a hero's journey... That's old school thinking.. It's simple today. "I'm here, therefore I am"...
How "liberalating" lol that sounds...
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

These Star Wars threads are pure gold. :rotfl

Who knew glorified toy ads were taken this seriously. :lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

These Star Wars threads are pure gold. :rotfl

Who knew glorified toy ads were taken this seriously. :lol

Toys especially those from a cereal box are brainwashing America...keep eating Trix ,lucky charms,Kennedy kibbles,Johnson puffs and sugar rose's sister bombs ...hoping Kingsman 3 is about the brainwashing star wars toys and threads and the bad guy is Kennedy Johnson...manners maketh man...and in TLJ I saw no man...lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

These Star Wars threads are pure gold. :rotfl

Who knew glorified toy ads were taken this seriously. :lol

yeah so funny right?

Multi BILLION, GLOBAL glorified ads that employ thousands of people and even has their own 100 dollar ticket theme parks where people from around the world come....

yeah but lets simplify these glorified kid toy ads, hahaha, hehehe, hihihi, hohohoh, hahaha hehehehe, :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl hahaha what a STUPID multi BILLION DOLLAR TOY AD AHAHAHAH HEH EHAHAHAHEHEE
What IDIOTS to care about movies that cost HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLAR :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl HOHOHO HEEHEHE HAHAHAHAHA SO STUPID

These Movie ads are FOR KIDS :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl
 
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