Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Oh boy I forgot how much I loved those later scenes ... I take back my earlier comment, serious tone would have been weird haha.

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Wait did Poe say that ??? I must have been asleep to miss all the exposition in the movie haha! Just joshing you, I know it's from the visual dictionary and yes I can definitely forgive that one because I've let the prequels get away with a whole bunch of stuff / be enhanced by additional source material filling in the gaps.

Did Poe say that the inside of the bombers had artificial gravity that would have pulled the bombs downward? Nah man the movie itself did by showing the bombadiers walking around inside them. :) I don't do stuff like Visual Guides, comics, or any of that.

Didn't that happen in TFA?

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No, Ben killing Han wasn't the moment he turned. The opening scene with Max Von Sydow established that that had already occurred prior to the beginning of the film.

Good chatting with you Khev :duff (even if you are one of the ST loving crazies :lol)

Me watching TLJ, lol:

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Star Wars will survive. Kennedy won't.

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You’re exactly right on that last part unfortunately, here’s more from the interview tour where they say the same would have happened to ESB:

Johnson: "Empire" would have gotten roasted. If you look at the criticism of "Last Jedi," can you imagine what they would have said about Luke just getting his ass handed to him by Vader? Oh my God.

He's right of course. This very thread is certainly proof of that.

Whether it worked or not, I do applaud LFL/Johnson for taking a risk with TLJ.

Heck yeah. Who would have ever guessed that after TFA rebels would be blasting each other (albeit on stun) in hangars with Poe Dameron holed up on the bridge of a cruiser "Alamo style" until Leia herself burst through the door and put him down. Some crazy **** went down in this film, I freaking love it. :yess: Also it's pretty funny how much more hardcore the stun weapons have gotten in the 30 years since ANH. Imagine if when Leia got stunned in the opening sequence of SW that she flew through the air before ricocheting several feet off the nearest wall, lol.


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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

He's right of course. This very thread is certainly proof of that.

Can’t agree. Even before the internet people knew what they liked or didn’t like. Take alien 3 for example, barely anyone liked it and we all somehow ‘knew’ that barely anyone liked it. Much like TLJ it took what was established and upended it for the directors vision. There are other examples (godfather 3, terminator 3, etc etc)

Heck, somehow we even ‘knew’ that the ewoks weren’t very beloved in RotJ and that the holiday specials were crap.

And we all ‘knew’ without a magical computer network connecting us that ESB was awesome(and it contains one of the most if not *the* defining moment in western cinema history). Throwing ESB under the bus to prop up his own movie is disrespectful.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Throwing ESB under the bus to prop up his own movie is disrespectful.

He didn't throw ESB under the bus, he threw the overblown criticisms of TLJ under the bus. And frankly I commend him for it. It was annoying as hell watching Abrams apologize for every little damn thing that anyone ever said against TFA. Own your freaking decisions man.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Can’t agree. Even before the internet people knew what they liked or didn’t like. Take alien 3 for example, barely anyone liked it and we all somehow ‘knew’ that barely anyone liked it. Much like TLJ it took what was established and upended it for the directors vision. There are other examples (godfather 3, terminator 3, etc etc)

Heck, somehow we even ‘knew’ that the ewoks weren’t very beloved in RotJ and that the holiday specials were crap.

And we all ‘knew’ without a magical computer network connecting us that ESB was awesome(and it contains one of the most if not *the* defining moment in western cinema history). Throwing ESB under the bus to prop up his own movie is disrespectful.

movies got trashed before the internet all the time

look at rocky horror picture show
look at troll 2
look at mac and me

how did these become hated cult classics? they were having midnight screenings for them waaayyyy before the internet.
blaming the internet for backlash is such horse crap

how did plan 9 from outer space become the worst movie ever made?

how did Ed Wood become so famous nation wide for making the worst movie ever...
how did that happened exactly without the internet?

did people not have PHONES back then? were friends not talking about movies from one state to the other? did critics not write for NEWSPAPERS?


did they all forget about the movie FREAKS? how it shocked audiences? how it got banned in some theaters? how it made people faint??????????????????????? where was the internet back then?
what a seriously STUPID interview answer...
 
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

He didn't throw ESB under the bus, he threw the overblown criticisms of TLJ under the bus. And frankly I commend him for it. It was annoying as hell watching Abrams apologize for every little damn thing that anyone ever said against TFA. Own your freaking decisions man.

Except I don't remember JJ attacking and trying to belittle the fans (the people responsible for even giving him an opportunity to direct a SW movie by supporting it for 40 years) that weren't happy with the directions/creative liberties he took in order to make himself feel superior. If I'm wrong, please remind me.

The fact that Johnson struck back proves he has a fragile overblown ego and some serious insecurities that he felt he had to lash out.

Along with the fact that Kennedy was ordering him to get out there and defend her honor, I mean himself... :wink1:
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Except I don't remember JJ attacking and trying to belittle the fans

Exactly. Such a wuss. :wink1:

The best stance is the one Gareth Edwards took of course. Make an awesome movie, say you had fun doing it and ignore all the accompanying drama. Second best is putting haters in their place, lol.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Exactly. Such a wuss. :wink1:

The best stance is the one Gareth Edwards took of course. Make an awesome movie, say you had fun doing it and ignore all the accompanying drama. Second best is putting haters in their place, lol.

Gareth Edwards was true fan, not a poser like Johnson. Edwards took pride in being a Star Wars geek/nerd, and it showed when he told people in interviews embarrassing things about himself as he laughed it off. Johnson tries to make it seem like he is an intellectual educated film maker and adult that just happens to be a scifi fan and enjoyed Star Wars as a kid. Two very different people.

Gareth would be my friend and we'd have fun talking geek stuff. Rian would get a punch to the face as he's trying to intelligently explain how he is better than me... :lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

TLJ is Gareth approved. :wink1:

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Yeah, he filmed that scene as a giddy fan, long before he saw the complete edit of the movie... He's looking at that guy and thinking seriously, he needs to declare it's salt???? Then quietly exited stage left. How come he hasn't come out to show his support for Johnson? Or has he?? He probably hated TLJ too and he knows he was a one and done with RO and is happy he has nothing to do with Disney' Wars new ST.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yeah, he filmed that scene as a giddy fan, long before he saw the complete edit of the movie... He's looking at that guy and thinking seriously, he needs to declare it's salt???? Then quietly exited stage left. How come he hasn't come out to show his support for Johnson? Or has he?? He probably hated TLJ too and he knows he was a one and done with RO and is happy he has nothing to do with Disney' Wars new ST.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Well Khev if you can recall the ONLY criticism I ever took seriously and somewhat subscribed too, and we both addressed it quite extensively with him, was JAWS’s “The movie was spinning its wheels in the mud no forward narrative momentum” and now after having watched it twice at home I can unequivocally say that I no longer subscribe to any part of that complaint.

The movie not only held up wonderfully it actually improved for me.

The narrative moves at a good clip for all characters and even addresses the resistance as its own character by showing that there is no calvary coming to the rescue and that to do the “right” thing is always much easier said than done which only helped to make the primary characters actions look even more heroic.

Even Sicario’s betrayal seemed more brutal this time out.

Wow look I like TLJ and my manhood is still intact wonders never cease.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Well Khev if you can recall the ONLY criticism I ever took seriously and somewhat subscribed too, and we both addressed it quite extensively with him, was JAWS’s “The movie was spinning its wheels in the mud no forward narrative momentum” and now after having watched it twice at home I can unequivocally say that I no longer subscribe to any part of that complaint.

The movie not only held up wonderfully it actually improved for me.

The narrative moves at a good clip for all characters and even addresses the resistance as its own character by showing that there is no calvary coming to the rescue and that to do the “right” thing is always much easier said than done which only helped to make the primary characters actions look even more heroic.

Even Sicario’s betrayal seemed more brutal this time out.

Wow look I like TLJ and my manhood is still intact wonders never cease.

Thank god for JAWS. i seriously thank god he was here when the movie came out. I thank JAWS for his reviews and his opinions. In amidst all the chaos and all the trolling by snikt and Spazz JAWS was a bright light in the darkness.

I will never forget JAWS input and i will forever respect him and i hold his opinions dearly. JAWS is one of the guys i would always respect. hes such a great guy to have here. the fact that he fought the good fight will always have him in my good sides
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Thank god for JAWS. i seriously thank god he was here when the movie came out. I thank JAWS for his reviews and his opinions. In amidst all the chaos and all the trolling by snikt and Spazz JAWS was a bright light in the darkness.

I will never forget JAWS input and i will forever respect him and i hold his opinions dearly. JAWS is one of the guys i would always respect. hes such a great guy to have here. the fact that he fought the good fight will always have him in my good sides

Damnit reading that you almost make it sound like he's dead lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Well Khev if you can recall the ONLY criticism I ever took seriously and somewhat subscribed too, and we both addressed it quite extensively with him, was JAWS’s “The movie was spinning its wheels in the mud no forward narrative momentum” and now after having watched it twice at home I can unequivocally say that I no longer subscribe to any part of that complaint.

Yeah, I also thought he had a point with his funny "slowest chase sequence EVER" comments about Snoke following Leia's ship but then I realized that it's really just a "fortress under siege" and the fact that her ship is moving at all adds a new dynamic on that level alone.

The movie isn't above reproach obviously as it really doesn't make any sense for the FO to apparently have not one single bomber of their own (when both the Resistance and Empire had them) but eh, if I can write off the bad tactics of the OT (and even find them endearing) I can give a pass to stuff like that in TLJ.

The movie not only held up wonderfully it actually improved for me.

Even though Han is my favorite SW character (probably my favorite character in all of fiction) there's nothing in these new films that quite compares to seeing Luke himself on screen again. Probably because Ford has been a constant in cinema the last 40 years (even playing Indy pretty similarly to Han in many ways) while we essentially haven't seen any version of Hamill or Luke since 1983. It can't be overstated how profound it is to see him back, and delivering such a powerhouse performance on top of that.

The narrative moves at a good clip

It really is surprising that even though it's the longest SW film it doesn't have a single boring scene. No ROTJ Dagobah or "becoming part of the tribe" moment in sight.

even addresses the resistance as its own character by showing that there is no calvary coming to the rescue and that to do the “right” thing is always much easier said than done which only helped to make the primary characters actions look even more heroic.

Yep, when has there ever been a "lighting of the beacons" sequence that was *not* answered in a movie before?

Even Sicario’s betrayal seemed more brutal this time out.

He's the reason the Resistance numbers 13 instead of 400 at the end. :eek:

Wow look I like TLJ and my manhood is still intact wonders never cease.

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