Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[ironwez20]

I love rots but I def understand why people hate it. And the dialogue is horrendous

 

[YoNoSe]

I can?t see one of these without thinking of the other.

 

[xipotec]

I love rots but I def understand why people hate it. And the dialogue is horrendous

That is my gavorite of the PT. I actually enjoy most of it, marked with some ?look away? moments.

The other two, have the opposite, just a few ?look at that moments?

Although right now I can only think of 1 from AOTC.


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[SilverStar17]

I’m a fan of RotS, easily my favorite of the PT. Mostly due to the fact that it basically gets to the point already (Anakin becoming Vader) of what the point of the PT is. I liked the way all the main characters were portrayed, but yeah, it does suffer from some cheesy dialogue and cringe worthy acting moments; not as much as AotC though. And the Mustafar saber duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan is easily the best saber duel in all of SW, and one of the best SW moments in general, imo.

While I do like characters in the PT, TPM and AotC are pretty much unwatchable for me.

 

[TaliBane]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Always sounds like a tag line from a Vodka commercial.

If this were Facebook you would be the Winklevoss twins and KerotanFrog is apparently Zuckerberg

You and Junkiion have been on fire lately.

Like an intact Palpatine's office rocketing off the Death Star.

Must be a Millennial thing. They have not been raised to deal with criticism well and it certainly shows.

I believe you can learn as much from negativity as you can from positivity. And in most cases it tells you much more about the speaker than it does about the content.

This sounds verbatim like something Ben Kenobi would have told Luke in a pep talk session.

Obi-War Garenobi?

I?m a fan of RotS, easily my favorite of the PT.

The best thing I can say about ROTS is it meant you didn't need to watch TPM and AOTC to get "the story of guy who became Vader" thing - if you needed that story I mean.

 

[SilverStar17]

The best thing I can say about ROTS is it meant you didn't need to watch TPM and AOTC to get "the story of guy who became Vader" thing - if you needed that story I mean.

It’s the only film of the PT that I really consider pertinent. Already starting Anakin off as a Jedi Knight is fine with me. I personally didn’t really need to see his background as a 9-year-old slave and him during his Padawan years. Based on the story Obi-Wan told Luke in the OT, RotS alone covered his background just fine.

To me, the only point the first two episodes served in terms of tying into the OT was the whole “chosen one” aspect, and him fulfilling that prophecy at the end of RotJ by killing Palps. However, Padme saying at the end of RotS “there’s still good in him” and Vader/Anakin not willing to watch his son be killed, was enough reason for me for why he dispatched Palps. Didn’t need the whole “chosen one” aspect.

 

[xipotec]

It?s the only film of the PT that I really consider pertinent. Already starting Anakin off as a Jedi Knight is fine with me. I personally didn?t really need to see his background as a 9-year-old slave and him during his Padawan years. Based on the story Obi-Wan told Luke in the OT, RotS alone covered his background just fine.

To me, the only point the first two episodes served in terms of tying into the OT was the whole ?chosen one? aspect, and him fulfilling that prophecy at the end of RotJ by killing Palps. However, Padme saying at the end of RotS ?there?s still good in him? and Vader/Anakin not willing to watch his son be killed, was enough reason for me for why he dispatched Palps. Didn?t need the whole ?chosen one? aspect.

I would argue TPM and AOTC actually HURT RoTS.




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[SilverStar17]

As opposed to all these other spin-offs, I’ve always been a proponent of seeing another film that features Hayden and Ewan (while they’re both still young enough to do it) reprising their roles as Anakin and Obi-Wan respectively, that focuses solely on their exploits and takes place right before RotS. Essentially a real time version of TCW cartoon series. The film would focus solely on them, so you wouldn’t need Portman in it (thankfully).

As I mentioned a few posts back, I liked the way they were portrayed and I think it’d be interesting to see what they can do in the roles when given the chance again, when it focuses on them just being Jedi Knights without all the extraneous drama.

 

[xipotec]

As opposed to all these other spin-offs, I?ve always been a proponent of seeing another film that features Hayden and Ewan (while they?re both still young enough to do it) reprising their roles as Anakin and Obi-Wan respectively, that focuses solely on their exploits and takes place right before RotS. Essentially a real time version of TCW cartoon series. The film would focus solely on them, so you wouldn?t need Portman in it (thankfully).

As I mentioned a few posts back, I liked the way they were portrayed and I think it?d be interesting to see what they can do in the roles when given the chance again, when it focuses on them just being Jedi Knights without all the extraneous drama.

Live action CW....

Yeaaaaah I like that idea alot.


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[SilverStar17]

Live action CW....

Yeaaaaah I like that idea alot.


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Well I mean not exactly a live action TCW, it just focuses on a specific time point. But yes, I do like that idea better than showing me Solo’s backstory, or bringing Emperor back because you didn’t know what to do with Snoke, completely diminishing what Vader did in RotJ.

 

[xipotec]

Well I mean not exactly a live action TCW, it just focuses on a specific time point. But yes, I do like that idea better than showing me Solo?s backstory, or bringing Emperor back because you didn?t know what to do with Snoke, completely diminishing what Vader did in RotJ.

I was not being sarcastic....I DO like that idea.


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[SilverStar17]

I was not being sarcastic....I DO like that idea.


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Ah. A drawn out yeaaaah typically denotes sarcasm.

 

[Ropen]

i hate Disney because they don?t care about me and you all they care for is profits. You mean to tell me that after i bought the movies fair and square physical and digital, the only way I can watch them in 4K HDR with dolby atmos, i.e the highest standard possible is by signing up for Disney + monthly until who knows when they will keep it on??XDXDXDXD

This is why it baffles when people defend their actions as a good thing for the industry...


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[Wor-Gar]

I was watching the movies on TNT today and there was an aspect about Vader established very early on that just disappears later. I think Lucas needs to retcon. I can hear it now:


ANH: Vader seeing Luke and the gang escape the Death Star -- Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

ANH: Vader's ship is hit out of the trench and sent spinning into space -- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

ESB: Vader enters the ice hanger just as the Millennial Falcon jets away in escape -- Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!

ESB: Vader watching Luke fall from the gantry -- Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

ESB: Lando at the wheel, with assist from R2, jump into hyperspace as Vader watches -- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Rogue One: Vader watches the Tantive IV jet away with the stolen plans -- No-No-Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!


Finally, Vader is a cohesive character.

This really should go in the Positivity Thread

 

[YoNoSe]

Worgar requests permission to post in the Positivity thread.

Nooooooooooooooooo!

 

[SilverStar17]

I was watching the movies on TNT today and there was an aspect about Vader established very early on that just disappears later. I think Lucas needs to retcon. I can hear it now:


ANH: Vader seeing Luke and the gang escape the Death Star -- Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

ANH: Vader's ship is hit out of the trench and sent spinning into space -- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

ESB: Vader enters the ice hanger just as the Millennial Falcon jets away in escape -- Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!

ESB: Vader watching Luke fall from the gantry -- Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

ESB: Lando at the wheel, with assist from R2, jump into hyperspace as Vader watches -- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Rogue One: Vader watches the Tantive IV jet away with the stolen plans -- No-No-Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!


Finally, Vader is a cohesive character.

This really should go in the Positivity Thread

He kind of does come full circle in the 2004 retcon of RotJ.

RotS: Vader realizes he let his unborn son die - NOOOOOOOOO!

RotJ: Vader realizes he’s letting his previously thought dead unborn son die - NOOOOOOOOO!

 

[Prime Clone]

Sort if related - I actively seek out positive TLJ analysis because even now I would prefer to like the movie. So I don?t go into those dens looking fir trouble.

My problem is that my problems with it are less to do with the general themes, which supporters seem to celebrate, and more to do with the character motivations, plot management and contrivances, which fans tend to dismiss.

That reminds me, how do you explain the FO not being able to catch the Resistance fleet, but Finn and Rose being able to fly across the galaxy and back, attempting a mission along the way?

 

[YoNoSe]

That reminds me, how do you explain the FO not being able to catch the Resistance fleet, but Finn and Rose being able to fly across the galaxy and back, attempting a mission along the way?

I dunno. But we do know in TLJ the weight of your ship matters in space.

Careful where you park it, though.

 

[YoNoSe]

Maybe RJ thinks light-speed is time travel? His time logic in Looper was pretty bad.

 

[Wick]