Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[jye4ever]

I will never erase the PT. It at least tells a cohesive story about Anakin, the fall of the Jedi and the rise of the empire. I'll take the good stuff, such as Maul, Dooku, Palpatine, Obi Wan, and a few of the lightsaber fights. The ST on the other hand, can go to hell where they belong. I can't think of anything good I'd want to consider "canon."

DiFabio has spoken

In JJ's cut, Rose is the mustache. What remains of her in TROS will be digitally erased.

lulz


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[momaw]

Thanks Khev. Very interesting.

 

[JAWS]

Spot on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD5mLw0A8vI

The guy who wanted more Rose and for Finn and Poe to have a homosexual relationship is spot on?? A wasted opportunity that we didn't get an Han and Leia ESB relationship with those two

Look I don't care if it fits the story.. But man that would have just been so distracting.

 

[jye4ever]

HOLY CRAP ALL THE JEDI AT THE END WERE ACTUALLY FILMED HELPING REY!




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[JAWS]

Me neither, I think it's similar to the RO phenomenon, people latch onto the "feel" that reminds them of the OT.

The Child probably has a lot to do with it too.

I think RO has more going for it.. Its a great looking film was some great looking shots.. If anything you can complain about the characters but otherwise its a solid film... A film where the characters IMO got better with repeat viewings.

 

[ironwez20]

HOLY CRAP ALL THE JEDI AT THE END WERE ACTUALLY FILMED HELPING REY!




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Damn really?

 

[jye4ever]

Damn really?

Mace, Anakin and QuiGon included!

I am speechless.

Forget the Snyder cut give me THIS!


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[Khev]

Thanks Khev. Very interesting.

No problem!

HOLY CRAP ALL THE JEDI AT THE END WERE ACTUALLY FILMED HELPING REY!

It's being reported that the George Lucas ending was Rey and Ben fighting Palpatine with lightsabers, Ben kills Palpatine and then Palps' spirit begins to enter Ben's body. Ben cries out to Rey to kill him first so she does by stabbing him with her saber. Then Palpatine's spirit comes out of Ben and tries to enter Rey but all the past Jedi spirits intervene and pull Palpatine's spirit away screaming to the Netherworld.

Final scene is several years later with Rey going to the Lars Homestead but this time there's a giant Jedi Temple that has been constructed in its place, she takes out out a blue and green double bladed lightsaber and gives it to her son with wavy black hair (Ben's son too, wtf???) and then Luke, Leia, Kenobi, Anakin, and Yoda's ghosts all appear and smile at them.

Uhhhh, yeah I definitely prefer the ending we got, lol.

 

[TaliBane]

No problem!



It's being reported that the George Lucas ending was Rey and Ben fighting Palpatine with lightsabers, Ben kills Palpatine and then Palps' spirit begins to enter Ben's body. Ben cries out to Rey to kill him first so she does by stabbing him with her saber. Then Palpatine's spirit comes out of Ben and tries to enter Rey but all the past Jedi spirits intervene and pull Palpatine's spirit away screaming to the Netherworld.

Final scene is several years later with Rey going to the Lars Homestead but this time there's a giant Jedi Temple that has been constructed in its place, she takes out out a blue and green double bladed lightsaber and gives it to her son with wavy black hair (Ben's son too, wtf???) and then Luke, Leia, Kenobi, Anakin, and Yoda's ghosts all appear and smile at them.

Uhhhh, yeah I definitely prefer the ending we got, lol.

We already saw that ending.

Rey getting all teary as Ben's gotta go, helped by all the dead Jedis.

 

[JAWS]

Watched TROS a second time. It played better as expected on repeat viewing... but still a lot of "now where we going?" moments and a lot of "where did that come from?" like when Poe says "I'm nothing like Leia" and Finn says "No, you are not"... where'd did that little spat come from?

I thought it held up pretty good the 2nd time... Not the film I saw the first but I still enjoyed it.

As for the "Im nothing like Leia" spat... I took that as Finn saying "No you are not like leia" but put on your big boy pants and be Poe, be the leader we need.

If I am remembering the scene correctly.

There's lots of trendy bickering that's funny but little real drama or resolutions between Finn and Poe and Rey. Still, it moves fast, juggles its light humor and light drama and light importance proportionally well. There's some odd cutbacks -- like Leia asking Greg Grunberg to be more positive, a scene that makes no sense and is simply needed as a very obvious time cut. There's a lot of unfinished business, like Finn never telling Rey or Poe what he wanted to say. Threepio is funny again though, which is quite an accomplishment because he hasn't been since 1980. So you see my point: this movie bounces back and forth between amusements and irritations like an erratic pinball machine.

It was weird that Finn never told anyone what it is he wanted to tell Rey.. I cant help bit think that Disney wants a TV series or even some more movies with these characters involved as I cant see just leaving it hanging out there..

As is I don't mind it.. In fact I kind of like it.. It could mean that he want to tell her he feels the force or perhaps he wants to say that he loves her... The 2nd makes more sense since when he said it was when they were about to die.. Its more something one keeps secret.

I am fine with either but I prefer to think that Finn and Rey have a relationship down the road.. There was genuine chemistry between those two... That Hug at the end of TLJ was really felt like there was love involved.

And of course, there's that crazy and ridiculous ending with Palpatine. Man, does that go all over the place. One minute, kill me, then next minute Force lightning destroying all ships, the next minute Ben Solo climbs down a thousand foot chain in mere seconds, the next minute Palps is super-charged and even has a new fancy red inner robe, then a quick beat about all is lost, until Lando says "on your left" and we're supposed to cry because a thousand ships show up... that somehow all have guns to take out the thousand Star Destroyers... all while hundreds of thousand cloaked Sith People chant and get wiped out by flying ash... oh god, I have to stop, there's just no end to it. And I didn't even get to the charge of the light brigade on the Destroyer. It is the most convoluted and strange climax in a Star Wars movie ever. Its like some sugar-high child ranting about what they'd like to see come to life.

So weird as I like the ending.. The space battle could have been more epic but I did not mind a single thing with the emperor.. It worked for me.. Will it continue to work for me down the road? I don't know... I have a feeling this will be very much like ROTJ for me. A flawed film whos flaws I ignore because I like the world of SW. That IMO is what makes it different then TFA (which does not feel like a real SW movie to me) TLJ and the PT (which are just bad movies).. Its another ROTJ. A film with both good and goofy moments. Both films feel a bit rushed to get to the ending but for very different reasons.. ROTJ because there was a lot to tie up and answer.. TROS because it had to start from scratch thanks to TLJ.

As for the Lando "On your left moment" You are not supposed to cry in that moment.. You are supposed to get goosebumps... Granted mostly because of the John Williams score but lets face it.. What is any Star Wars film without John WIlliam' Score?

Where some people see a triumphant ending to the Skywalker Saga, I just see a hot mess

Hmmmm? A Triumphant ending to the Skywalker Saga... No I don't think that.. A miracle that, for me personally, managed to make the ST something I will be happy to watch now IMO it stuck the landing.

Did it make the OT better?? Not one bit. Not at all. The OT is a few less goody moments in ROTJ from being perfect.

It did make me like the ST a lot more and appreciate some things in the PT a little more.


Seriously I cant stress how much TFA and TLJ just killed my love of SW... After the PT and then those two films, I had trouble even finding enjoyment out of the OT because my mind was bombarded with images of a whiney Anakin / Child Murdering Vader from the PT and the Awful father Han from the TFA and the hot mess that was TLJ.

Somehow this film fixed that for me. It was fun, it was funny, it was exciting... It was STAR WARS.

Sorry to those who think that I and the others who liked this film, "Have bad taste in Star Wars films" To that I say... It must be that You just don't understand Star Wars.

Wor-Gar... Glad you can find some enjoyment out if it...

The best thing about this ST for people that hated it.. You can easily ignore it.. Much more easily then the PT since GL has found it fit too screw around with the OT and force you remember the damn PT ​

 

[JAWS]

No problem!



It's being reported that the George Lucas ending was Rey and Ben fighting Palpatine with lightsabers, Ben kills Palpatine and then Palps' spirit begins to enter Ben's body. Ben cries out to Rey to kill him first so she does by stabbing him with her saber. Then Palpatine's spirit comes out of Ben and tries to enter Rey but all the past Jedi spirits intervene and pull Palpatine's spirit away screaming to the Netherworld.

Final scene is several years later with Rey going to the Lars Homestead but this time there's a giant Jedi Temple that has been constructed in its place, she takes out out a blue and green double bladed lightsaber and gives it to her son with wavy black hair (Ben's son too, wtf???) and then Luke, Leia, Kenobi, Anakin, and Yoda's ghosts all appear and smile at them.

Uhhhh, yeah I definitely prefer the ending we got, lol.

Yep...

 

[JAWS]

Lets make a deal.

I?ll fully get behind erasing the ST from history but the entire PT has to go along with it Darth Maul battle and all.

Suck it PT lovers lol

Hell even Mando is tainted by the PT that might has to go as well literally throwing the baby out with the bath water.

But he is soooooo cute isn?t he.

Nonetheless he must go as well as that ObiWan Cassian series.

SW must end once and for all!

RO will be the final word in SW!

Now who are the top 20 ST haters on here.

You 20 have to combine your power rings together like Power Rangers and make this happen lol

But no whining about losing your precious sith scenes and clone troopers in the PT DiFabio.

Be strong like Prime and take it like a man.

Should we just get rid of RO too make Wor-Gar and Khev sad




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Not a fair deal... ST wont sneak into the OT and stink it up like the PT did... Freaking Lucas and his Hayden Ghost spirit and "Weesa Free" on Naboo

 

[JAWS]

All right here's my take:

Good thoughts.. Glad you enjoyed it fully the 2nd time.

 

[JAWS]

Ben Shapiro gets it

Pretty much sums up exactly how I feel about the film and its decisions it made with its story and characters. ​

 

[Wor-Gar]

GL has found it fit too screw around with the OT and force you remember the damn PT

Perhaps that is the true meaning of The Force...

 

[JAWS]

Perhaps that is the true meaning of The Force...

 

[JAWS]

All right here's my take:

Glad you pointed out the ESB has always been a classic... One of the many lies that RJ keeps trying to push.

 

[jye4ever]

The best thing about this ST for people that hated it.. You can easily ignore it.. Much more easily then the PT since GL has found it fit too screw around with the OT and force you remember the damn PT

Yousa right


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[Getter Dragon]

It was weird that Finn never told anyone what it is he wanted to tell Rey..

He was going to tell her that he wasn't a drug dealer, but that Poe was.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Someone said that this movie is racist because it shows Spanish-heritage Poe as a ex-drug dealer and Finn as a lazy black guy who skips out on his job while Caucasian Rey has all the powers, more than she needs and never earned them.

Do people really see that when they watch this movie?