Nothing is "sad" about personally enjoying one movie or the other.
I don't need validation or Jye responding to me to get validation, for my opinions.
And, I don't know what you are going on about.
"You aren?t getting it. Interest... any interest... is indicative of a reaction, positive or negative. There is some passion to want to like it or hate it. The ST doesn?t have that. People saw the movie so they could talk to there buddies at work for a week and then it?s done. There is no interest, no rewatch value, nothing from the ST."
I said the above. You are twisting my words, coming to false conclusions, then hammering home a small portion of a point while feeling bad for me??? When... you addressed literally one word, "negative" in that reply?
It's not all that I've got, but when some of replies are ignored and others are brushed off with jokes, then I'll move on to the next thing.
So, where is the lasting interest in the ST? I can't seem to find it.
Why did Star Wars movies and TV shows get put on hold AFTER the ST? PT comes out and we still get a Clone Wars movie and two Clone Wars shows, one that spanned 7 seasons... because there is INTEREST in the PT.
Why did the 3.75" line, that has existed since the 80s, basically die AFTER the ST? Funny how the peak of the 3.75' line came AFTER the PT and how it's death came AFTER the ST>
Why are there no novels set after TROS? There big multi media event is about events set thousands of years BEFORE the ST. The PT had multiple novels and books post PT.
Why didn't Hot Toys make Poe? Why didn't they make "um 500 HT Poes" to sell out like Anakin then? Not even Poe! A main character in the ST, can not get made! Meanwhile, Hot Toys will be selling a green tentacled jedi that has 1 minute of screen time in three movies because there is INTEREST in the PT.
What is your argument for the clear decline in interest in Star Wars after the ST? You should be thanking the PT for keeping the franchise still going.
Can't have much of a discussion when you say literally everything is bad.
I've already admitted parts of the writing were bad.
What acting was bad? Qui-Gon? Kenobi? Mace? Yoda? Padme? Palpatine? Everything from Anakin? Who was bad? What scenes were so awful?
Are you really knocking the visual effects from a 99/02/05 movie compared to 15/17/19 movies? Most of them are still good. What visual effects are so bad? You should be thanking the PT for advancing the state of film making.
Cinematography?
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PT easily passes. Far better than the 2019 video game graphics of TROS Rey vs Palpatine that is pulled right from The Force Unleashed
Explain.
"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."
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I forgot, OT elitists hate lightsaber duels. Instead, they should just hurl rocks at each other?
That doesn't make a movie bad, it just means you didn't get what you wanted. This goes partly for me too in the ST.
Serious question here, when was the last time you watched the movie?
They were shot in the back. Every single one of them. Every. Single. One. The only one strong enough to sense the betrayal was Yoda.
I forgot, only puppet Yoda allowed. Again, that is just you not getting what you wanted. But, that is a testament to just how strong Yoda is in the force. Every fight he is in he uses the force to fight, flip, jump, etc...
The high ground is 100% a real thing dating as far back as Sun Tzu.
Dying of heartbreak is a real medical condition. Shock + stress = heart failure. Add in being force choked and going into child labor while seeing the man you loved slaughter children all in the sake of your name.... fully plausible.
Nah. You should the see one it is based off of!
Sounds like Luke is constipated.
The only idiocy was Disney's entire handling and lack of planning of the ST.
Ah, so when we bring up interest in these movies, the original point at hand, we can't use arguments? So, you pick and choose what to believe in the ST and are picking and choosing which arguments are acceptable now?
You should check places like BBTS and see the Black Series sales for the ST. Now compare them to the PT.
You'll notice one needs to be marked down to 78% off to sell, while PT is selling at or above retail. Why? INTEREST. People are attached to these characters. You don't see that with the ST.
No, what killed the ST toy line is the terrible characters in those movies. Padme, Kenobi, Dooku all sell because they are good characters that people like.
Toys are a microcosms of movies. They help show what is good and what is bad based on fan interest. The reason those toys didn't sell aren't because they are toys, it's because the source material they were based off of were failures to begin with! The characters were failures to beging with. That's why toys are relevant to this discussion. That's why so many of these rot because the interest/quality whatever you want to call it, simply wasn't there for the ST.
You do realize all the other Jedi were shot in the back with no chance, right?
That's really ironic considering you've admitted to picking and choosing what to believe from the ST novels then retcon all of Snoke with Jye and JAWS trying to piece together how it all makes sense he was Plagueis all along, straight up imagining things that were never stated in the films.
Last time I watched them was three months or so ago. Still as good as the first time I ever watched them. Probably will be re watching them all again this week considering the world right now.
