It's not about changing anyone's opinion about a movie from positive to negative or vice versa since that can't really be done just by discussing it. You either like something or you don't. But dissecting the specifics of what worked and what didn't can be fun, especially if someone's take helps you put a finger on what you didn't like better or helps you to appreciate something even more.
Yes I'm well aware of what you are claiming. I just happen to think it's nonsense. A good episode is a good episode, regardless of what came before. X-Men 3 and X-Men Origins were garbage then DOFP was great. Age of Apocalypse was absolutely hot garbage and then Logan was awesome. "Nope Logan followed AoA so I know it's crap." Ridiculous. We went from Vader the idiot in ROTS to Vader the badass in RO. TCW was lame for six and a half seasons and now all of a sudden with two episodes it's sweet. That's how it can always go, you never know.
I think what is nonsense is pretending that you need to see any other movie to understand Logan or other episodes for TCW. I barely remember those other X-Men movies, so I have nothing to say about those.
TCW jumps around the timeline in it's own show. Show is done by arcs as well, which very few are actually connecting. The only thing you need to know is that Ahsoka is Anakin's padawan and Maul is alive. That's it. There is no where near the same self reliance on past episodes as it is for the ST. And TCW was pretty good. There were episodes just as good, or at least near, these last two imo. You just need to know what to watch and what to skip as there are episodes that are clearly just child oriented.
As far as Logan, you don't need anything to watch it. You can jump right in and understand with very limited knowledge. You can't do that with the ST. Logan isn't tainted by any past movie, TROS is.
I would honestly have to go back and rewatch to recommend anything as i can't really recall specific episodes. I think I have seen all of them at one time or another, I used to watch them with my nephew. Most of the time I enjoyed the dynamic between Ahsoka and Anakin, again taking into consideration the context of it being a kid's show. But I agree there were some annoying parts too like kid Fett. I also remember liking some of the stuff they did with Maul and Kenobi too, both together and independently. And I really liked Captain Rex. It's not ever dethroning the OT or coming close to The Mandalorian level of entertainment but I usually found it to be fun way to kill 25 minutes with my nephew.
I might try to watch it start to finish on Disney + now that new content is out there. I haven't seen the new stuff people are raving about yet.
If you rewatch it, I'd suggest watching it in chronological order and not just by seasonal order. It doesn't really matter if you don't, as things will still be easily understandable, I just think it is a better experience.
Watching ROTJ this last time I was kind of LOLing at the celebration of all the planets at the end thinking.. Well Palps is still around and a new Empire is about to come about... I find myself thinking about everyone who hate that the ST ruin this ending... And I get it.. but two things.
1. All the crap in the ST does not start to happen for probably about IDK like 20 years.. So that's 20 years of a happiness.
2. Since George changed everything around and said he wanted the series to be about the redemption of Anakin Skywalker. Well the film Succeeded in doing that so the ST does not make the events of ROTJ irrelevant.
In the special editions, I like to think you can hear Jar Jar cheering at the end of ROTJ celebration... "Wesa Free!!!"
Han became a space NASCAR driver and lost the falcon while Leia was a struggling politician as Luke was a failed Jedi. Still lame.
I don't think I could ever get past Han and Leia's only child turning to the dark side and becoming possibly more of a mass-murderer than even Vader. That really puts the kibosh on whatever happiness the characters had post-ROTJ.
Nah. Don't like it.
I'd say he was a more of a mass murderer. Vader only helped blow up one one planet, Kylo blew up like 7 and helped kill trillions.
People carry on like the "OT" was this perfect untouchable thing when it was always just SW and ESB. ROTJ had some great moments and we accept it overall because it's what we grew up with but man it was such a turnaround for such prior badasses like Vader, Han, and Fett. And that lull in the middle between Dagobah and the Ewok Village is almost prequel bad. Then when I heard what Lucas and Kurtz had at least partially planned with the twins facing Palpatine in Episode IX before Lucas threw it out and it left even more of a bad taste in my mouth. So the ending of ROTJ was never this sacred thing that could never be undone for me and I finally got what I wanted with TROS.
