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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
What about Obi-Wan always having a blue lightsaber though?
What about Obi-Wan always having a blue lightsaber though?
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
Well he wasn't a Master at first in PM but yeah your right he should have upgraded to green like Yoda had and Qui Gon. However since in the original Star Wars he had a blue one because Lucas didn't come up with the green one yet, maybe they decided to keep him with a blue on on ROTS to stay consistent with what he had in the OT.
Luke upgraded to green when he declared himself master as well. So I always thought green represented being a master. But who knows? LOL
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Well he wasn't a Master at first in PM but yeah your right he should have upgraded to green like Yoda had and Qui Gon. However since in the original Star Wars he had a blue one because Lucas didn't come up with the green one yet, maybe they decided to keep him with a blue on on ROTS to stay consistent with what he had in the OT.
Luke upgraded to green when he declared himself master as well. So I always thought green represented being a master. But who knows? LOL
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
The SW Annotated Screenplays (1997) prior to George's PT muckings shed all kinds of interesting light on things that were changed for the PT. And it really shows when you go back and listen to old OT dialogue. During the OT Luke had to use *both* the light and dark sides of the Force but he was just supposed to maintain balance so he didn't succumb to the Dark Side. Deflecting blasters? Light. Looking into the future? Light. Guiding torpedoes into an exhaust port to kill millions of people? Dark. That's why he was allowed to choke those Gamorrean guards. Was he a "Sith" then? No, he was an enlightened Jedi (or almost Jedi) maintaining balance.
The idea was that a Jedi was always supposed to calmly choose which Force powers to use, always erring on the side of "knowledge and defense." Once you get lazy and just start Force choking your way through *everything* then you'll be intoxicated and consumed. It was cool then, and certainly not spelled out in the films. But it just seemed to make sense and as logical as you can make something that mystical in a science fantasy film.
Why do they have lightsabers AT ALL? Remember ROTJ? "His lightsaber, my master." "Ah, yes, a JEDI'S weapon. By now you must know your father can never be turned."
Vader being the only Sith who wielded a lightsaber was just one more thing that made him special. But of course when it came time to script The Phantom Menace George was just too lazy to invent cool new Sith names (they're all Darth now!) or weapons (they all use lightsabers now!) Alas.
The SW Annotated Screenplays (1997) prior to George's PT muckings shed all kinds of interesting light on things that were changed for the PT. And it really shows when you go back and listen to old OT dialogue. During the OT Luke had to use *both* the light and dark sides of the Force but he was just supposed to maintain balance so he didn't succumb to the Dark Side. Deflecting blasters? Light. Looking into the future? Light. Guiding torpedoes into an exhaust port to kill millions of people? Dark. That's why he was allowed to choke those Gamorrean guards. Was he a "Sith" then? No, he was an enlightened Jedi (or almost Jedi) maintaining balance.
The idea was that a Jedi was always supposed to calmly choose which Force powers to use, always erring on the side of "knowledge and defense." Once you get lazy and just start Force choking your way through *everything* then you'll be intoxicated and consumed. It was cool then, and certainly not spelled out in the films. But it just seemed to make sense and as logical as you can make something that mystical in a science fantasy film.
Why do they have lightsabers AT ALL? Remember ROTJ? "His lightsaber, my master." "Ah, yes, a JEDI'S weapon. By now you must know your father can never be turned."
Vader being the only Sith who wielded a lightsaber was just one more thing that made him special. But of course when it came time to script The Phantom Menace George was just too lazy to invent cool new Sith names (they're all Darth now!) or weapons (they all use lightsabers now!) Alas.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
My understanding is that the lightsabers are also symbolic, they identify a jedi much like the samurai with the katana. The colours are blue apprentice, green force master. Red sabers are much different as the crystals they use are not natural like the ones the jedi harvest. I think the sith create their own crystals is that right?
My understanding is that the lightsabers are also symbolic, they identify a jedi much like the samurai with the katana. The colours are blue apprentice, green force master. Red sabers are much different as the crystals they use are not natural like the ones the jedi harvest. I think the sith create their own crystals is that right?
jye4ever
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
New movie will have all the same dumb established rules.
I bet Yoda's family will even work in a lightsaber factory.
Ok, you may continue your discussion on how awesome Star Wars could be.
New movie will have all the same dumb established rules.
I bet Yoda's family will even work in a lightsaber factory.
Ok, you may continue your discussion on how awesome Star Wars could be.
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VintijDroidGutzz
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
Great.. more back stories.New movie will have all the same dumb established rules.
I bet Yoda's family will even work in a lightsaber factory.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
"The sales tax of factory built lightsabers is in dispute...."
"The sales tax of factory built lightsabers is in dispute...."
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
Shhh don't give Disney any ideas. LOL
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New movie will have all the same dumb established rules.
I bet Yoda's family will even work in a lightsaber factory.
Ok, you may continue your discussion on how awesome Star Wars could be.
Shhh don't give Disney any ideas. LOL
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VintijDroidGutzz
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
Since JJ's in charge now - they could send a Ferengi in to settle that.
Since JJ's in charge now - they could send a Ferengi in to settle that.
jye4ever
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
I just read an early draft for Episode 7.
So basically it starts out towards the end of ANH. Luke is about to blow up the Death Star when all of the sudden, a much older Han comes back through time in his Falcon being followed by a pissed off Bounty Hunter that is tracking him. Due to this event, Luke fails to blow the Death Star, and the Empire succeeds in destroying Yavin and wipes out the Rebel Alliance. Older Han meets with younger Han and explains how Luke was the hero and eventually became a Jedi Master. Old Han is shocked to hear that Luke is a loser who blew the mission and is now living back on Tatooine getting drunk and starting bar fights all the time in the Cantina. Old Han decides that he will dedicate the rest of his life in this time to help rebuild the Rebel Alliance in hopes to put things back on track. With Leia dead, young Han now falls for a different girl back on Tatooine while trying to talk to Luke and convince him to re-join the Rebel Alliance. With the Death Star still there, the Emperor and Vader celebrate their victory and have no clue that Vader has kids that survived. They constantly make fun of the poor young Rebel rookie who blew it and make him an honorary member of the Empire. R2D2, after being severely damaged in the dog fight, was never repaired and eventually recycled for scrap metal. Vader plots to knock off Grand Moff Tarkin because he is tired of being #2. Jabba The Hut finds out that there are now 2 Han's in this time and goes nuts with anger. He orders all Bounty Hunters to find them and doubles the reward for doing so. Obi Wan doesn't bother to appear as a force ghost or inform him of seeing Yoda because what's the point? Luke is a loser who choked and couldn't get it done because of a mere distraction. Yoda dies alone on Dagobah with no purpose. Wedge joins the Empire because he loves being a pilot more then who's side he is on. His thinking is, if you can't beat them, join them!!
I don't know about you guys, but this is shaping up to be a really great sequel with a lot of plot twists. Man that JJ coming up with the whole alternate time line story.. how original is that?
I just read an early draft for Episode 7.
So basically it starts out towards the end of ANH. Luke is about to blow up the Death Star when all of the sudden, a much older Han comes back through time in his Falcon being followed by a pissed off Bounty Hunter that is tracking him. Due to this event, Luke fails to blow the Death Star, and the Empire succeeds in destroying Yavin and wipes out the Rebel Alliance. Older Han meets with younger Han and explains how Luke was the hero and eventually became a Jedi Master. Old Han is shocked to hear that Luke is a loser who blew the mission and is now living back on Tatooine getting drunk and starting bar fights all the time in the Cantina. Old Han decides that he will dedicate the rest of his life in this time to help rebuild the Rebel Alliance in hopes to put things back on track. With Leia dead, young Han now falls for a different girl back on Tatooine while trying to talk to Luke and convince him to re-join the Rebel Alliance. With the Death Star still there, the Emperor and Vader celebrate their victory and have no clue that Vader has kids that survived. They constantly make fun of the poor young Rebel rookie who blew it and make him an honorary member of the Empire. R2D2, after being severely damaged in the dog fight, was never repaired and eventually recycled for scrap metal. Vader plots to knock off Grand Moff Tarkin because he is tired of being #2. Jabba The Hut finds out that there are now 2 Han's in this time and goes nuts with anger. He orders all Bounty Hunters to find them and doubles the reward for doing so. Obi Wan doesn't bother to appear as a force ghost or inform him of seeing Yoda because what's the point? Luke is a loser who choked and couldn't get it done because of a mere distraction. Yoda dies alone on Dagobah with no purpose. Wedge joins the Empire because he loves being a pilot more then who's side he is on. His thinking is, if you can't beat them, join them!!
I don't know about you guys, but this is shaping up to be a really great sequel with a lot of plot twists. Man that JJ coming up with the whole alternate time line story.. how original is that?
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
"....to say nothing of reported quality control issues leading to inadvertent amputations and apparently even fatalities. Two Jedi engineers and a team of intergalactic lawyers have been sent to resolve the situation"
"....to say nothing of reported quality control issues leading to inadvertent amputations and apparently even fatalities. Two Jedi engineers and a team of intergalactic lawyers have been sent to resolve the situation"
VintijDroidGutzz
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
I thought you may've appreciated my Star Trek reference a-dev..
I thought you may've appreciated my Star Trek reference a-dev..
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
Apologies Vintij I criminally overlooked that. Most certainly I'm sure the Rules of Acquisition would have something to say in this situation.
I thought you may've appreciated my Star Trek reference a-dev..
Apologies Vintij I criminally overlooked that. Most certainly I'm sure the Rules of Acquisition would have something to say in this situation.
VintijDroidGutzz
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
Actually, seeing as this is a new trilogy.. I wouldn't put it past JJ to introduce some vaguely Trek-esque geezers, just to stir the pot a bit.
Actually, seeing as this is a new trilogy.. I wouldn't put it past JJ to introduce some vaguely Trek-esque geezers, just to stir the pot a bit.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
Since the announcement of JJ as director actually I've been wondering will Simon Pegg be in this, afterall Star Wars rather than Star Trek was his first love too. (though Pegg hates the PT and has actively spoken out about them)
Since the announcement of JJ as director actually I've been wondering will Simon Pegg be in this, afterall Star Wars rather than Star Trek was his first love too. (though Pegg hates the PT and has actively spoken out about them)
VintijDroidGutzz
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
He'd go alright actually - as long as he's a creepy alien, or smart alec rag tag galaxy hopper or something.
I'll ****ing throw kahkah at the screen if there's more wind bag senators or politician types taking over this new series.
He'd go alright actually - as long as he's a creepy alien, or smart alec rag tag galaxy hopper or something.
I'll ****ing throw kahkah at the screen if there's more wind bag senators or politician types taking over this new series.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread
In the very first outline of Return of the Jedi according to J.W. Rinzler, Palpatine was going to fight with a lightsaber. So it wasn't something that GL retconned for the prequels.
In the very first outline of Return of the Jedi according to J.W. Rinzler, Palpatine was going to fight with a lightsaber. So it wasn't something that GL retconned for the prequels.
